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| AgeXV1 New Member 3 Posts 3/09 |  Posted - Jun 4 2009 : 4:59AMHow much demand do you think there could be for scripts that include real coherent dialogue. I'm not meaning to insult the current writers of Porn scripts, but I guess I'm just wondering how many other people who be excited to see a porn movie that revolved around central characters and really focused on their identities as characters. I'm an English major at a school in Maine and I'm wanting to write a full film script that would get into the characters pretty deeply but still be based on sex and the sex that the characters are having. I wouldn't want it to be a softcore either. A real hardcore porn movie that presents complex characters and tries to get you to think about them instead of just the sex in the scene or the actress as an inter-porn entity. I just really want to know how many other people would enjoy something like that. I also would like to know where I would send it when it's finished if I was hoping for it to be made. Any responses are appreciated. [Link] |
Flash  Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Jun 4 2009 : 1:36PM [Link] |
| cand86 Member 164 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Jun 4 2009 : 2:36PM Now, having said that . . . Is there a demand for such porn scripts? Yes and no. Like Flash said, there's a small but dedicated minority of viewers who would love to see such a script (and probably more who would be interested in it). But as for porn producers themselves- I'm not so sure. If you were going to do it, I think you'd probably have the most success doing it yourself or finding somebody who has the same goals as you do in producing such a film- not trying to sell your script to a porn studio whose work has never been like that, and who will most likely slaughter your effort. Finding the right producer would be the key trick. [Link] |
| Stud_Rob Member 703 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Jun 4 2009 : 4:07PM [Link] |
| Gentleman Jon All-Star Member 1881 Posts 6/05 | Posted - Jun 5 2009 : 11:29AM [Link] |
| SexyHard Member 673 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Jun 6 2009 : 12:08PM My biggest success was with Wicked. I pitched some titles and loglines to Joy King. She said she wanted to see three of them. I sent one in so as not to overwhelm her. Twice she told me that she would read it "This afternoon" or "This weekend." In neither case, did she follow through. I ended up calling Heth, who does PR at Wicked, and asked her about this. She said, "I've had a script on Joy's desk for six months and she hasn't looked at it yet. I work here, she sees me everyday." I've pitched titles and log lines to others, and didn't even get a response. Shylar at Vivid doesn't seem to answer his phone, and hasn't responded to any emails. Janeen at New Sensations responds by telling me, "I'll forward your email to the appropriate person," but nothing happens after that. Once before pitching Joy King, I pitched one idea to some who both acts and directs for Wicked. He didn't respond to my email, but when I later pitched the same idea to Joy, she responded with, "It's funny, ----- ------ just pitched exactly the same idea last week." I didn't tell her about my email to Mr. ------, because I didn't want to burn any bridges by making unsubstantiated allegations. My guess is that if you want to write scripts for porn, you will need to actually spend some time in porn valley, getting to know people in the business. But keep in mind, even if you got a job for Wicked, that would be no guarantee that you could get a script read within six months. [Link] |
| TedtheBellhop Member 767 Posts 6/09 | Posted - Jul 2 2009 : 2:09PM [Link] |
| cholmes58 Member 75 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 12 2009 : 2:34AM People most often get what they settle for. The more porn producers offer porn with decent plots and dialogue, the more porn consumers will raise the bar on the demand for more intelligent porn movies. Porn does not have to be brainless. It reminds me of a scene from Spike Lee's "Malcolm X" film. Malcolm X (portrayed by Denzel Washington) was absorbing the following lesson from his then-religious leader Elijah Muhammad who took a glass of clear water and then dump a bottle of ink in the water. While noting how polluted the water was with the ink, he pointed out that people will drink it if that is all that is made available to them. While that particular lesson concerned religious doctrine, it can also apply to how a mass produced mediocre artform can desensitize people to higher quality art. Such has it been with porn throughout its history. People have been fed a steady diet of brainless fucking and quarter-baked plots, dulling the audience into a sense of appreciating nothing more than the sex. I am not judging those that prefer plotless porn any more than I do not judge mainstream movie who prefer movie that don't require a lot of thinking. I am simply pointing out that there is an audience for a quality porn/plot driven genre as well. The Academy Award winning moving Monster Ball, showed the possibilities for a good mix of quality porn and plot. Although the sex in that moving was largely distorted and fleeting, it did show the potential there can be for raising the quality of the art of porn. I truly believe someone like yourself will have a breakthrough with some quality scripts and join the ranks of Stormy and Armstrong, and develop an audience that will sustain such a porn/plot driven genre. It is only a matter of time. Don't give up on your efforts. [Link] |
| Stud_Rob Member 703 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Jul 12 2009 : 8:06AM [Link] |
| cholmes58 Member 75 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 12 2009 : 5:33PM The below is actually something I mentioned in another Porn Pool thread (see "Black Women are not embraced by White porn makers?"), but it relates to this topic as well. ....if someone is looking for an interesting script idea: I just read an a fascinating book called the "The Hemings of Montecello" which is about the slave family of President Thomas Jefferson. Sally Hemings was President Jefferson's mistress after his wife Martha died and the slave mistress had several children by Jefferson. The outstanding book by Annette Gordon-Reed (it won the National Book Award in 2008) deals a lot with the colonial period phenomenon of slave holder having sexual relations with their slaves -- some forced and some by consenting slave women who sometimes found it put them in a better position with their slave masters. This also getting into an area of another topic thread I have been engaged in concerning the desire for better quality (even serious) porn scripts. This would be a ground-breaking porn movie. I would think it would be a great casting opportunity for fair-skinned black porn stars such as Jasmine Cashmire (who has already show some decent acting abilities in the porn feature "Ramsom"), Mona Devine, Obession or others. [Link] |
| wcw43921 Senior Member Look Into My Eyes-- 1252 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Jul 12 2009 : 5:37PM My own advice is that you contact the stars/directors/studios personally. I met Taylor Wane for the first time back in 2002 when she appeared at the Vintage And Model Pinup show in Chicago. I asked if she was looking for any screenplays for her production company. She said yes, and a year later, when she appeared at that year's Chicago Glamourcon, I gave her my first screenplay. She liked it and bought it. The downside is she has yet to make it into a movie. I think she's mostly busy shooting content for her website and making personal appearances. I haven't bugged her too much about it, as it's not like I'm paying her to make the movie for me. Still it's better that I would have gotten just blindly sending scripts out to studios and hoping they read them. Then there was my attempt to pitch to Elizabeth Starr's company. I tried e-mails, snail mails, more e-mails, more snail mails--nothing. I offered her a screenplay based on the Hypnosis fetish--something the "House Of 100 Fetishes" didn't cover. She didn't even write back to tell me she wasn't interested. I hope you have better luck than me selling your screenplay, and I hope it gets made into a movie. Let us know what happens. _________________________________________________________ "There can never be too many beautiful women Hypnotized for our pleasure." [Link] |
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