'Porno Valley' is a porno documentary series that has just debuted on SKY here in the UK, and I think it is an amazing insight into the porn industry.
Not sure if it is shown over in the States but it is based around the Vivid operation but it really is no holds barred stuff.
For example, we have directors David Stanley, Paul Thomas and Chi Chi Larue interviewing new talent and because Stanley and PT ask the girls to strip, La Rue walks out as he finds it all so offensive to the girls;
Jenna Jameson throws a tantrum because PT gives her lines in the 'Devil In Miss Jones' remake to Georgina Spelvin. Briana Banks breaks down during filming because her sister called to say that someone had left soiled underwear on her bed: was it a fan stalker or Banks' boyfriend?
And you see Jenna and Briana in a LA restauarant without any make up and they look so 'ordinary'!
I think it is great stuff because it could have been an official Vivid series with limited access but it really does show the tears, tantrums and fears of Porno.
Next week, we are promised another bust up between Jenna and PT, and concerns that one of the girls trying to be a Vivid girl is taking drugs. I can't wait!
Welcome to the Forum Laura. Its good to hear from members in the UK.
I've enjoyed the series so far, and you're right, it really is warts and all.
But while such behind the scenes footage is interesting, it does remove some of the mystique and glamour surrounding such starlets as Brianna and Jenna. As you rightly state, outside the makeup and the glamouress costumes some of the girls are nothing special and the level of converation suggests they'd be working in McDonalds if they weren't getting paid to have sex.
I also think the directors and producers deserve a lot of credit for putting up with the teenage tantrums and sulking and the inflated egos of some of the stars.
I do enjoy such programmes however, and I recently enjoyed the series featuring Seymour Butts and his family. I think the series was called "A Family Business", and was on Channel 4.
I'd like to see a series based around the gonzo market, with perhaps each episode concentrating on a particular role in the process, such as Director, Producer, male pron star, etc.
I give all of you 3 guesses who the the girl is that "concerns that one of the girls trying to be a Vivid girl is taking drugs" refers to. Come on now, think back a few months.
Still on the topic of porno documentaries on UK SKY, did anyone see the opening of last nights Laid Bare on Bravo , with Kyle Stone getting very emotional about his eleven years in the business, and how the "little blue pill" that other performers use has edged him out of loads of work, and his earnings are cut in half, and how hurt he is. He also said that porn is moving in a more couple's friendly direction, and he's just not good looking enough for the women who watch porn and he's pretty much obsolete. Although, he says, loads of women do want to watch 'goofy' guys having sex.
It was quite an emotional rant, and he just went on and on and on.
Just watched tonights episode. I liked the show but i think the scenes were staged (or reconstructed). The buit with Tawny Roberts and Rich was good. He was testing out her pussy toy (which got all blurred out- not that it matters)and comparing it with the real thing. next week features a new British girl but i dont know who it is. Sex and Shoopping is still the best porno documentary i.m.o
A friend of mine from the UK has been telling me about this for the past week and the main thing he has continuously pointed out to me is how much this show makes Vivid's Mercedez look like a complete twat and that she doesn't give a damn about her kids or her husband, only what he can do for her. He says it really makes him look like a poor cuckolded schlub considering he handles her finances and deals with her fucking other guys and dancing on the road constantly for a living while he stays home and babysits the children.
Again, though, that was my friend's opinion.
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Posted - Feb 18 2004 : 8:09AM
I think your friend is pretty damn right. The funniest part so far was Dani Woodward negotiating a contract with the boss at Vivid. She turned up high with a mouth churning out at speeds of 150 mph...and she was stiil given another chace but she declined.
Anyone see this weeks episode. Best bit was when Savanna, being away from her husband phoned Erik Everhard to come round and fuck her. She told her husband she'd video it for him so he wouldn't mind. Next weeks has Larry Flynt.
If they can, you will likely have a problem with PAL (the TV system in Europe, that is incompatible) with NTSC (the US TV system). However, if someone is able to accomodate you, let me know. I can convert the PAL tapes to NTSC for you.
This does look to be an interesting show. Really wish someone here could get their heads out of their asses so we in "Porn Valley" can actually view "Porn Valley" !!! But with the recent overeaction to Janet Jackson's Super Bowl stunt - and this being an election year - I doubt it.
Dani W. is hot (at times), but I fear the inconsistencies will only continue. Just the thought of showing up high for the negotiations shows you her head isn't in it. I would've killed to see that and a few of the other scenes mentioned.
Kami (by the way, you are a goddess !): should anyone show ability/interest in converting this, please let me know if I can be of any assistance. Its a shame we can't view it as it runs!
This week on Porno Valley : Paul Thomas makes Briana cry by ridiculing silicone breasts , just before she does a scene . "PT" also spills the beans on Ben English's special method for maintaining wood - the injection route . And all the Vivid girls try to speak in English accents with obviously hilarious results . Jenna comes off sounding the most realistic : The Gwyneth Paltrow of porn ?
Incidentally , Paul Thomas sure does miss the spot light . He was stuck to the documentary maker's camera like glue , with a quip about his girls never far from his tongue .
It was interesting to see just how many people he considered necessary to help shoot an outdoor sex scene . I'm no technical expert ( obviously ) but is it really necessary to have a guy holding the boom mike for what is essentially fixed action ? There were at least 6 crew there , mostly just sitting around , some with their backs to the action chatting with each other . So much for intimacy huh !
<I'm no technical expert ( obviously ) but is it really necessary to have a guy holding the boom mike for what is essentially fixed action?>
We should all say a big thank you to any producer who hires a boom operator. Mics fixed to the cameras suck, big time.
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Posted - Mar 15 2004 : 5:29AM
What amazed me was that were been told that all male porno industry applicants must be able to be 'hard on demand' anytime, anywhere. And there's Ben English injecting himself just before his scene with some saline solution in the toilets to keep his dick hard!
August4me I think it would be really hard to get a straight answer to what the percents are. I know one male actor who always brags how he is all natural, and the company he works for is on about his all naturalness and then one of my girls (who was fucking him off camera) went in his bag for her phone and there was like 30 packs of viagra! so you never can tell who uses what. and most guys aint talkin.
That's what I thought. This issue of male talent ability is like some kind of dirty little secret within the Adult Biz. No one ever talks about what goes on, and that's why this is the first time I have ever heard of "injecting" to get hard. I am sure this is just the tip of the iceberg.
I like that one, "went into his bag to get her cell phone"
The most I do is load on the B1000 Complex and jog/run/lift routine
It seems to be an issue in the industry ((Staying hard)), as for the staying hard advise, I know shared to the public on some tips to stay hard in which I found quite informative.
I don't know if this was on video or I read it somewhere.
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Posted - Apr 4 2004 : 3:21PM
You don't read much, do you? Anybody remember Luciano's (yes, Luciano's) 'accident' in Brazil of a couple of years back. Hell, has nobody seen Kris Kramski's Models: The Truth Behind the Scenes ?
Steph said: "I know women are much more exciting to discuss than soup, but sometimes I just can't contain myself."
Seems the series is finished now. It ended with this years AVN awards when Heart of Darkness won best film. I checked out the the production company website on the off chance that they might sell it on dvd. They dont yet though. Also seems as though the series will air on channel 4 too for those who dont have sky.