Aw man, it's way too much effort for me to provide specific examples. I've spent the last six months doing my best to wash all memory of the middle east out of my brain with alcohol. Haven't quite succeeded yet, dammit. :-P But I remember enough to express an informed opinion that, socially, arab societies aren't nearly as different from our own as we like to think. And self-professed american "conservatives"? They're _much_ closer to the jihadis, psycholigically speaking, than us godless lib'ruls are. Which is probably why they hate each other so much...
That stuff wasn't really a factor. Do you really believe that no serial killers record stuff for their own future amusement? Or rapists for that matter.
chaotic, godlessness was not blamed for communism, Mao, or Stalin. Rather the inital post essentially said that all good things flow from porn while all evil came from religion (some exaggeration, but the essence). One of many counter-arguements was these examples of evil people that needed no excuse of religion to be that way.
Hitler - non-Christian? Atheist? Last time I heard someone make that claim it was Ann Coulter.
The facts are that Hitler was born into an Austrian Roman Catholic family and was subsequently baptized. In "Mein Kampf," he wrote "I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Almighty Creator. By fighting the Jews, I am doing the Lord's work." He repeated this in a 1938 address to the Nazi Reichstag, and in 1941 informed General Gerhart Engel, "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so."
The Papacy has yet to excommunicate Hitler, and "Mein Kampf" was never put on the Church's "Index of Forbidden Books."
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Posted - Jun 17 2006 : 7:56PM
There was a book titled 'Table Talk' and it was a compilation of sorts of the writings of Martin Luthor, the patriarch of the Lutheran Church and the main instigator of the Reformation. Hitler likewise had a book published about his private conversations which were recorded by stenographers at the request of Martin Bormann.
Hitler knew the Germans were largely Lutherans and he was baptised a Catholic and was even an alter boy in his youth. So, publically, Hitler pretended to be somewhat Christian. There are dozens of quotations that point to an acknowledgment of God and a reverance for Christianity. This is what Hitler said and did publically.
Privately, he hated religion and used a twisted cross (the Swastica), an ancient occultic symbol as the symbol of Nazi Germany. Also, he adopted the colors of red and black for the Nazi flag (in a background of white), supposedly representing blood and soil, but red and black are used by avowed Satanists, red a symbol of the Devil and black is a symbol for occultic magic.
Table Talk is where I got the quotes I cited earlier. What a man says in private and what he does, are far better indications of the inner soul of a man more than what he says publically.
Hitler supposedly owned the spear used to stab Jesus on the cross to determine if He was dead. It was one of his prized possesions.
It get's better: A couple of years ago, when John Paul II made that speach apologizing for the Vatican's "Complacency" during the Holocaust, he also claimed that the Nazi's were a "neo-pagan regime".
Amusingly enough, the author of that book later suffered severe damage to his academic career after endorsing the "Hitler Diaries", which everyone now agrees (perhaps with 20/20 hindsight) were a completely transparent fraud. One could say this throws _some_ doubt on his scholarship. I'm also told there are significant discrepancies between the german and english versions of the book, with the quotes you used above bearing only a slight resemblance to the original. Not speaking german, I can't really judge, but my rule of thumb is that any time a claim resembles something you'd read in a Jack Chick comic, it's probably BS. :-)And as long as we're talking about whacked-out, unprovable conspiracy theories, Hitler was also supposedly a Reptoid.
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Posted - Jun 18 2006 : 6:29AM
The swastika is an old hindu symbol and was chosen by Hitler because of some theories about the Aryans of India and racial purity. That had nothing to do with religion.
Don't you know that the writers of that article are _part_ of the conspiracy to conceal the TRUTH?!?! Sheesh, man, the fact that they're so little apparent evidence of that Truth, is ITSELF proof that the conspiracy has been so successful!!! It's a good thing that True Believers(tm) are utterly impervious to such "evidence"; through the strength of their faith, they KNOW the TRUTH when they see it! :-P
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