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RobbieNomi
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Orange County, CA
57 Posts
7/06
Posted - Oct 7 2006 : 6:44AM
Now I know that there's always talk about the biggest blockbusters in Adult Film history; Deep Throat, New Wave Hookers, Briana Loves Jenna, Pirates, etc...
But my question is what have been the major sales disappointments in the industry recently? The Gigli or Ishtar of porn, so to speak?
I just find it fascinating to find out about a film that people thought would be a sure-fire hit and ended up becoming a fiasco.

Edited by - RobbieNomi on Oct 7 2006

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5/01
Posted - Oct 7 2006 : 10:35AM
Not the most recent but I believe that Caligula holds the cup as porn's biggest flop.
oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 7 2006 : 1:00PM
anything with Tracy Lords.
Roads To Moscow
Dianic

Wicked Pictures,Vouyer Media, Axel Braun Productions, Marc Dorcel, JoyBear Pictures, abbywinters.com
1390 Posts
7/05
Posted - Oct 7 2006 : 1:52PM
It all comes down to whether you mean a "flop" primarily in artistic or financial terms.

Given the low budgets we're alotted in adult, combined with many different avenues of delivery - DVD, VOD, cable, international sales, virtually all reasonably well made adult product can make its budget back in time.

If you mean artistically, well, that's another story, and in adult entertainment, an extremely, extremely subjective one at that.

darkside762000
Member

United Kingdom
91 Posts
3/06
Posted - Oct 7 2006 : 2:25PM
This is a damn good idea for a topic, although as DMPR points out, it's going to be very hard to nail down exactly what constitutes a flop, especially when financial and sales figures for any of the delivery formats are so hard to come by.

I'd dare say there are a few that haven't performed to expectations either artistically or financially, but they all probably made a decent profit when all's said and done.

 
TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Oct 7 2006 : 4:41PM
I think you've got the cart in front of the horse there, Daniel.

Because of the incredibliy limited avenues of distribution, there's not much potential for a break-out porno hit. Whatever you make, it's going to get pumped through the same predictable and limited distribution chain, with more or less the same result. There's no financial insentive to take big financial risks in porno, so there are no big flops.

Edited by - TonyC on 10/7/2006 4:42:07 PM

croy
Platinum Member

Discovry
4574 Posts
3/04
Posted - Oct 7 2006 : 10:32PM
CD-ROMS must have had disappointing sales, especially in proportion to the money put into it. The technology just wasn't good enough at the time.
I notice that while porn companies jumped on CD-ROM technology, they were slower on DVDs. Cost or were they burned so bad the first time that they were a little cautious?
the unknown pervert
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3243 Posts
5/06
Posted - Oct 8 2006 : 4:04AM
Any movie that has ever featured Ron Jeremy using a diving board the way it was designed to be used.
Pocketcomb_Pimp
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1921 Posts
7/03
Posted - Oct 8 2006 : 12:42PM
I thought it was Sodom and Gomarrah. It was the second movie by the Mitchell Brothers (Behind the Green Door) They lost every penny of their progits in it.
ChrisLuvsPorn
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USA
42 Posts
12/04
Posted - Oct 8 2006 : 4:35PM
There definitely could be a flop in porn. Every year a small amount of studios come out with a big budget release. A fairly recent example would be Pirates. Just as a hypothetical. What if Pirates had sucked and only a small number of the total people that saw it, either on DVD, VOD or whatever other media is available. Decided not to see it cause they heard the movie was bad. Now, most porn budgets are small. A movie like that however has a budget well above the normal.

The only thing though is that a movie like that with all it's hype usually lives up to it for the most part.

Roads To Moscow
Dianic

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1390 Posts
7/05
Posted - Oct 8 2006 : 5:18PM
ChrisLuvsPorn wrote:

What if Pirates had sucked and only a small number of the total people that saw it, either on DVD, VOD or whatever other media is available. Decided not to see it cause they heard the movie was bad. Now, most porn budgets are small. A movie like that however has a budget well above the normal.

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That's a mainstream analogy that doesn't really work in the adult world. A large budget, couples friendly adult film fills a much-needed financial void - it's a valuable product that can go to markets lower budget gonzo porn cant.

What WOULD be interesting would be if someone would pull out the stops and create a lavish, $250,000 shot-on-film hard-edged gonzo.

Edited by - Daniel Metcalf Public Relations on 10/20/2006 1:44:18 PM

croy
Platinum Member

Discovry
4574 Posts
3/04
Posted - Oct 8 2006 : 10:26PM
Interesting that an amount that might not even cover catering in a regular Hollywood blockbuster is considered an outlandish budget for porn. Even indies magnitudes larger budgets, it seems.
TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Oct 9 2006 : 10:19AM
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Edited by - TonyC on 10/9/2006 10:29:16 AM

croy
Platinum Member

Discovry
4574 Posts
3/04
Posted - Oct 9 2006 : 10:24PM
So was Fashionitas nominated for the award?

That reminded me that I liked Mariachi much more than Desperado even though they were writen and produced by the same director. The budget didn't help - he had too many scenes that seemed to be set up for nice looking stills, while I was trying to watch a movie.

darkside762000
Member

United Kingdom
91 Posts
3/06
Posted - Oct 10 2006 : 4:18AM
Yet 'Desperado' is till 100 times better than 'Once Upon A Time In Mexico', unfortunately....
 
croy
Platinum Member

Discovry
4574 Posts
3/04
Posted - Oct 10 2006 : 5:19AM
I saw the trailers and couldn't get myself to watch.
Roads To Moscow
Dianic

Wicked Pictures,Vouyer Media, Axel Braun Productions, Marc Dorcel, JoyBear Pictures, abbywinters.com
1390 Posts
7/05
Posted - Oct 20 2006 : 1:49PM
croy wrote:

Interesting that an amount that might not even cover catering in a regular Hollywood blockbuster is considered an outlandish budget for porn. Even indies magnitudes larger budgets, it seems.

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Even smaller, direct-to-DVD indie releases tend to ship more than 2,000 to 5,000 units out the door initially, hence economically they're able to recoup that higher budget.

I remember when the first "Puppetmaster" shipped, Charlie moved over 30,000 units initially.

It would be interesting to know the last time an adult DVD had that many pre-orders.

barrettman
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251 Posts
4/04
Posted - Oct 20 2006 : 8:30PM
" Heaven's Gape "
LamontCranston
Member

71 Posts
7/06
Posted - Oct 20 2006 : 9:07PM
Doing what?
rogrtipe
RogReviews.com

1103 Posts
11/99
Posted - Oct 24 2006 : 6:12PM
It's almost too easy....

NEu Wave Hookers.

Even if it made money, it killed a franchise and helped spread the alt-porn virus into our world.

LATE

Rog Reviews

budtugley
Senior Member

One man's trash can be the next man's treasure.
1187 Posts
1/04
Posted - Oct 26 2006 : 4:06PM
I don't know for certain how 'a flop' is defined. I know tht Teradise Island: Anal Fever, the newest film with an anal performance by Tera Patrick was disappointing at the porn peddlar palace up the street from me. They ordered 5 copies and I never saw more than 2 or 3 rented out at any one time. 4 of them were sold as used discs and the owner told me it didn't rent well for her.
Maybe a title like that does better in Middle America.
HarryWild
Member

Make me believe
622 Posts
2/05
Posted - Oct 28 2006 : 3:08AM
Just saw a DVD called "Trophy Wives" by Darkko or something like that. Ir was produced by Elegant Angel and it was hard to believe they did such a gonzo, flat production.

It was the worse porn I have seen in 10 years. It had no setup at all other then a little dancing routine of 20 seconds and then they kind of went at it without any plot, setup or anything. Plus all the scenes were identical from what I could tell fastwarding the entire DVD in fifteen minutes. No passion at all; and the males were like zombies. I love to give it to someone as their first porno.

What a waste of the actresses that were pretty much top rated. They were: Alketra Blue, Courtney Simpson, Courtney Cummezs and two other stars that I forgot!

If you want to see something poorly done; this is it! It had good lighting and sets; but the direction was just plan poor!

RichB
Member

65 Posts
4/05
Posted - Oct 28 2006 : 11:46AM
I know of a story that might rank as a "flop" in adult production. I do not have the complete facts on the case, but uncovered the info while slumming in the halls of this particular company (which for legal purposes will remain unnamed, as regretfully I also deem necessary for the director's moniker).

It was a Andrew Blake-like directed (but nothing to do with Andrew Blake or even Michael Ninn for that matter) video which never even made it to a finished master. 'Mr. Andrew Blake-like director' had been retained as a director/producer by said unnamed company and given vast amounts (by porn standards) of up-front money. The video was emulating the mainstream success of the Alien franchise and required extensive costuming and special effects. After filming a rather visually amazing and very very long scene in which the Alien and a damsel confront one another, Mr. Andrew Blake-like director sent the uncut footage into the company and requested even more cash to finish. The scene, while visually pretty impressive, had little jerk-off potential and could not, in itself, be made into a complete film. The company, feeling squeezed by this notable director replied not with more finance, but with a summons to see them in court since Mr. Andrew Blake-like director had not obviously fufilled his part of their production agreement. As a result, as far as I know, this expensive content sits atop someones desk as a reminder...to be careful who of us wanna-be-Andrew Blake-like directors get mucho up-front money to make their magnum opus.

Anyone wanna' loan me a cool 100 thou for a bitchin' Mission Impenetratable spin-off?

Edited by - RichB on 10/28/2006 11:50:02 AM

RichB
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65 Posts
4/05
Posted - Oct 28 2006 : 11:48AM

Edited by - RichB on 10/28/2006 11:50:32 AM

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11/04
Posted - Oct 28 2006 : 12:49PM
I totally agree!

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Roads To Moscow
Dianic

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1390 Posts
7/05
Posted - Oct 30 2006 : 10:16PM
Greg Dark's original New Wave Hookers stands the test of time to this day; sorry to hear the latest sequel isn't up to par.
Scarboro
Member

25 Posts
10/06
Posted - Oct 30 2006 : 11:15PM
"Fashionistas Safado"
Pure crap!

~Scar

Roads To Moscow
Dianic

Wicked Pictures,Vouyer Media, Axel Braun Productions, Marc Dorcel, JoyBear Pictures, abbywinters.com
1390 Posts
7/05
Posted - Nov 1 2006 : 12:37PM
But even some of the earlier NWH sequels - some of which were directed by Greg - fell short, admittedly.



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