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Corran7
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Posted - Jul 13 2013 : 1:58PM
Sure there are a lot of great talent shooting hot content these days but I'm thinking of a time when there was a group of hot models who were consistently turning in great scenes. For me the last great time in porn was when the following girls were at their most active:
Sunny Lane
Gianna Michaels
Eve Laurence
Bree Olson
Sara Jay
Flower Tucci
This would be the mid to late 2000's I believe.
It got me wondering what other peoples favorite era of porn was/is.
Moderators, I did a search and didn't see any recent topics on this subject. If I missed it, maybe you can link me?
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 13 2013 : 3:47PM
Easily my favourite era is the very early 80s. Stuff was still being shot on film, but the budgets were bigger, the performers and filmmakers more seasoned, and in general there was a sense of ambition and pride. Sex could make up the majority of a feature, and yet it still felt contextualized. Most of my favourite films come from 1979-1984.
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Posted - Jul 13 2013 : 8:26PM
Early to mid-2000s really, when gonzo was at its height.
pat362
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Posted - Jul 13 2013 : 9:04PM
^^I'm with you. By far my favorite era and the one I miss the most. There are so many great movies that are now lost to time because they were shot on film and even though many made it to VHS. Most didn't go beyond that format.
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Posted - Jul 13 2013 : 10:23PM
In 2006, you'd have missed Asia Carrera, Emma Cummings, Gina Ryder, Madison Monroe and Tiffany Brookes by a year on either side. But you could have done a lot of spanking to the girls on the following list (and this is just some the girls that I happen to like):
Adriana Faust
Alaura Eden
Alexa May
Alexis Love
Allie Ray
Amber Rain
Amber Simpson
Amy Reid
Anna Belle
Anna Pierceson
April Flowers
Ariana Jolie
Ashley Blue
Ashlynn Brooke
Aubrey Addams
Aurora Snow
Avy Scott
Bobbi Eden
Brandy Talore
Bree Olson
Brianna Beach
Brianna Blaze
Brianna Love
Brooke Haven
Carmen Kinsley
Cassie Young
Catalina
Celna Cross
Charmane Starr
Chelsea Ray
Christie Lee
Claire Robbins
Claudia Rossi
Courtney Cummz
Courtney Simpson
Cris Taliana
Crystal Ray
Dana Vespoli
Dani Woodward
Daria Glower
Ellie Idol
Eufrat
Eva Angelina
Evelyn Lin
Faith Leon
Franchezca Valentina
Gauge
Gianna Michaels
Ginger Lee
Haley Paige
Hannah Harper
Hayle Bangg
Hillary Scott
Inari Vachs
Isabella Soprano
Jackie Ashe
Jasmine Byrne
Jassie
Jenaveve Jolie
Jenna Haze
Jenni Lee
Jennifer Luv
Jewel De'Nyle
Kacey
Kara Mynor/Shawna Lenee
Karina Kay
Kathleen Kruz
Katin
Katsumi
Kaylani Lei
Kelly Wells
Keri Sable
Kinzie Kenner
Kirsten Price
Kylie Richards
Lacie Heart
Lauren Phoenix
Lena Nicole
Lexi Belle
Lily Thai
Loni
Lucie Theodorova
Lucy Lee
Lucy Thai
Makenzie Wilson
Marissa Jayden
Marquetta Jewel
Mary Anne
Maya Hills
Melanie Jagger
Melissa Lauren
Melody Max
Mia Rose
Mia Stone
Michelle Maylene
Mika Tan
Miko Sinz
Misty Mendez
Monica Sweetheart
Mysti May
Nadia Styles
Naomi
Nautica Thorn
Nyomi Marcella
Paige Turner
Penny Flame
Rayveness
Rebecca Linares
Riley Brookes
Riley Shy
Roxy Deville
Roxy Jezel
Sabrine Maui
Samantha Ryan
Sammi Rhodes
Sandra Romain
Sandy Style
Sarah Blake
Sasha Grey
Sativa Rose
Serena South
Shanna McCullough
Sharka Blue
Simony Diamond
Stefanie Renee
Sunny Lane
Sunrise Adams
Suzie Diamond
Szylvia Lauren
Taryn Thomas
Taylor Rain
Taylor St. Claire
Teagan Presley
Tera Patrick
Terri Summers
Tia Tanaka
Tiffany
Tiffany Rayne
Tobi Pacific
Valerie Herrera
Veronica Da Souza
Veronique Vega
Wendy James
 
Piston Honda
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Posted - Jul 13 2013 : 10:32PM
Early to mid 2000s when Gonzo was at it's peak.
It's the only era you could find girls regularly doing the full ringer all in one movie that wasn't even a feature. Directors had the budget to shoot this type of hardcore scenes and girls stuck around longer than 6 months if they gained popularity. Now you have girls who are really popular leaving when they are in high demand with people literally begging to shoot them.
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Posted - Jul 14 2013 : 1:55AM
Girls on Fire (1984)
female talent:
Angel
Ginger Lynn
Kimberly Carson
Cody Nicole
Shanna McCullough
Raven
male talent:
Harry Reems
Jamie Gillis
John Holmes
Widespread availability of the vcr pumped money into the business that has not been duplicated. You could not put a cast together like this in mid 00's, because profit margins had continually shrunk over the previous 20 years. Not saying the content was superior, but the quality (looks) of the female talent was better. Admit that 8-10 years ago seems pretty good considering the present state of the porn business.
Edited by - aclayfan on 7/14/2013 1:57:23 AM
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Posted - Jul 14 2013 : 2:36AM
Early 90s with The Vivid Girls like Racquel, Dyanna, and Jenteal.
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Posted - Jul 14 2013 : 6:00AM
My tastes have changed there's not just a "golden age" especially because there are a lot of stars I really like who begun in late 2000 and I really can't say they don't belong to any golden era , also I wasn't much interested in Milfs but since I've aged myself I am now , there weren't many MILF oriented movies , there are now and I really like it.Especially when some came back I really enjoyed a Milfy Brittany O'Connell and the new outcome of Julia and Lisa Ann as Milfs
just a couple lists
stars who begun in late 2000
Bobbi Starr
Dana Dearmond
Bree Olson
Tori Black
Chastity Lynn
Tory Lane
Brianna Love
Joanna Angel
Marie Luv
Misty Stone
Milfs
Samantha Ryan
Darryl Hanah
Brittany O'Connell (comeback)
Syren Demer
Dana Vespoli
Krystal Summers
Julia Ann
Lisa Ann
Payton Leigh
Phyllisha Anne
and many, really many more
There are many bad things in today porn but there are also many good , I can't really recall any era with the amount of stunning performers as it is today not just teens but from 18 to 50 and even grannies for those who like them , there are gorgeous women for any taste and of any age , and I'm not into BBW or particularly big breasted girls , but they are there too
This is an era with plenty of stuff for any kink you might have done by any kind of women you may like.
Former contract stars going full gonzo, Former models or playboy models going gonzo , I mean this happened before but not to the extent of today
and last but not least at least two black girls who really are off charts I still can't believe a girl like Ana Foxxx is doing porn let alone gonzo porn, the other is Skin Diamond , well Skin is one of the best performers ever
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Posted - Jul 14 2013 : 9:49AM
I don't really have a fav era. I'm a fan of the female performer and there have been girls I've really liked and lots I don't care about in every era. I don't particularly like the way porn was shot in the 70s but I like a few stars from that time. Porn in general from the 80s on I'm mostly fine with. I think the 2000s gonzo brought on great stuff by focusing on specific types of girls and sex acts but the stuf that came before it has it's own appeal too. In the end if I'm not into the girl the sex itself doesn't really matter to me.
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Posted - Jul 14 2013 : 11:54AM
I would say the internet era is my favorite, just because the options are so numerous.
My first encounters with porn were during the "Golden Age" of feature films, and I sympathize with GGG's fondness for those movies. But in those days, you needed to go to a public place (a theater) to engage in a private act (jerking off), and you watched whatever was being shown that week.
Today, you can watch any Golden Age film you want in the privacy of your own home. As much as I love some of the performers from that era, there were probably no more than 30 or 40 performers who did well over 90% of the scenes. The number of women doing porn has exploded, and many of them are incredibly hot.
Still, I like that Golden Age porn tended to have a lot of short sex scenes instead of having a few long ones. Today's porn is made so people can fast-forward until they find the stuff that they like. In Golden Age porn the story and the sex blended more naturally. In today's features, you could easily skip the story and miss nothing.
Finally, there was a spirit. They were breaking the law at the same time that movies like Deep Throat were getting a lot of mainstream attention. They were creating something new, and the era's best films were works of transgressive art. Ever since the VCR emerged, porn has felt more corporate.
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Posted - Jul 14 2013 : 1:10PM

If those were my options I think I'd stick to magazines.
I always skip ahead to the good stuff in modern hardcore and softcore smut, but when I watch something like Lasse Braun's Sensations(1975) I actually follow the characters and the story, because the production quality and even the acting is virtually indistinguishable from its contemporary mainstream so I never know if the hot actress is just a pornstar and i'm gonna see her fuck, or if she's just a non-nude legit supporting actress etc
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Todd Gack
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Posted - Jul 14 2013 : 2:40PM
Another great era was the mid-late 1980s, the emergence of tanned, toned blondes like Candie Evans, Blondi Bee, and Lauryl Canyon.
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Posted - Jul 17 2013 : 4:31PM
I'm in favor of the late 90's to mid-2000's in my opinion. I may be biased but 1999-2003 were the best porn years ever in every possible aspect imaginable.
 
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Posted - Jul 17 2013 : 6:26PM
I want to say this, but is there is a specific time frame? Might have a different definition.
Just for a period, late 2000s is good for me.
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Posted - Jul 17 2013 : 8:04PM
^ A few of my favorite all time porn stars retired recently (including many of the girls mentioned by the OP plus Jenna Haze). So I might say late 2000s. But part of the reason I haven't developed a true porn crush in the last few years is that there are just so many gorgeous women entering the business that I'm crushing on a different girl everyday.
So if I need a date, let's say 2005 to present.
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Posted - Jul 17 2013 : 11:30PM
Yes definitely and a few years after as well. There was so much new stuff coming out every week it was so exciting for fans - I couldn't wait to get to the store and find out what new scenes you'd done, and my favourite girls worked during this time too. It was brilliant!
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Posted - Jul 18 2013 : 10:59AM
Late 90's to about 08 was the greatest, the internet is killing porn because I don't know anyone (other than me) paying for it anymore.
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Posted - Sep 28 2013 : 3:48PM
Bumping this topic - because it's a good discussion and should get more replies. Good points by all.
First thing I would say, however, is: Let the "Golden Age" be the golden age. That term is representative of the years from "Deep Throat" to the early to mid 80's (How about Girls on Fire caps off the "Golden Age"?). The players of that era basically paved the way for today.
Looking at it a different way, I am going to say: mid to late 90's to early to mid 2000's. Reason being is actually the male talent. Sounds crazy, but to me, a beautiful woman being fucked to orgasm is what makes an absolutely great porn scene. The years 1998 to 2005 is like the era of the super-fucker: Julian Rios, Mark Ashley, Mark Davis, Evan Stone were not only around, but in there prime. Peter North started doing his "North Pole" series and was close to his prime. I am probably leaving a few guys out.
Hey, there are always beautiful women. Every "era" discussed here features some unbelievably beautiful, sexy, and sexual women. Every one. And some great scenes.
The guys from the years '98 - '04 fucked the best. Hence, the best pure sex scenes came from that period. The difference is subtle - not "hands-down" by any means.

Edited by - KinkWilliams on 9/28/2013 3:50:30 PM
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Posted - Sep 28 2013 : 3:55PM
Yeah.. late 90's until 2005. Porn was nasty and filthy. Filthy scenes with bodily fluids all over the place are rare these days.
Everything is so clean. With white interiours, soft lenses being used, directors directing too much. Miss the old Elegant Angel days with Flower Tucci and other nasty girls.
Only Evil Angel has some nice stuff every now and then. Also Jules Jordan video.. And yes.. there still are some nasty girls around these days.. but the flood of nastyness is gone.
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Posted - Sep 29 2013 : 10:14AM
I think for me the "super-fucker" (my definition: the guys who pound a girl hard) era happened with the early EXTREME ASSOICIATES and JULES JORDAN stuff. And then the euro guys were allowed to be unleashed and perform in the way they did in their non-American films. The some of the guys who I put into that catergory would include Erik Everhard, Jules Jordan, Lexington Steele, Rocco, Manuel F., and Nacho.
If I were to judge porn eras by the male performances alone when those guys were allowed to cut loose would be the beginning of me paying any attention to the guys performance. Otherwise, it's still all about the women for me of any era and any type performance. I can be just as happy watching a Danni Ashe softcore seen as I am watching something super hardcore if I like the girl in the scene.
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Posted - Dec 31 2013 : 3:12AM
Personally I loved the mid-2000's, like 2003-2007. That era and this current era we're in are the best in my book. I been discoverin new girls constantly. Can't even google one of my favorites without accidentally findin another one who catches my eye that I've never heard of. Luv it.
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Posted - Dec 31 2013 : 10:11AM
The early 80s were by far the best in terms of talent and creativity. However, I also miss the late 1990s and early 2000s when producers were still able to spend some big bucks on porn and make a profit, so you had Private making great features and US companies making some great gangbang and bukkake movies.
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Posted - Jan 1 2014 : 10:29AM
To me the obvious stand-out period is the one that a lot of people already have mentioned around 1998-2005 with a ton of girls doing at least anal in their vanilla 1-on-1 scenes. Example of girls Aurora Snow, Gauge, Angel Long, Ashley Long, Monica Sweetheart, Kimberly Franklin, Belladonna, Jasmine Lynn (very underrated in this era), Keri Sable and Teagan Presley. I'd say that the era had skirmished down quite a bit when Keri was around and when she retired I'd say that most traces of it was gone.
I'm also a sucker for the early 80's stuff with Ginger Lynn, Candie Evans, Stacey Donovan etc. a lot of the features from that time has sex scenes that holds up pretty well but the girls from that era had a beauty that is hard to match.
 
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^ & ^^There's no denying that the period from the 90's to early 2000 were some of the most amazing years when it comes to more hardcore porn. Studios were still able and willing to dish out cash for good production value so it wasn't all out gonzo. Most European studios were better at it than their North American counterparts but that could be a question of the value of their money VS ours.
That said. I would still pick late 70 to late 80's for my favorite period of all time. I may be along on this one but I find the performers from that era were for the most part better actresses than those that followed them. Age has to be part of it because there weren't that many teenagers back then so someone doing porn at that time was usually late 20's and older. There is something to be said for maturity and experience. The males from that period were better actors as well and through talent of good directing were able to portray a better chemistry between themselves and their female counterpart. The only thing that that was missing back then was proper lighting on some sets.
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Posted - Jan 6 2014 : 6:28PM
This.
Plus modern porn is way too plastic and white, clean and unrealistic.
Fucking POV and white camera filters everywhere spoiling the whole image.
None of the directors "can into" raw unedited material/different camera angles etc
The same adriano-style shit everywhere.
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Posted - Jan 6 2014 : 7:32PM
Speaking of golden age anyone know why hardcore anal scenes seem to have decreased significantly (in the U.S. at least, Europe I think has pretty much stayed status-quo) since around 2008/2009? Seems like between 2000/2001 and at least thru 2007 there was much more of it being made.
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Posted - Jan 6 2014 : 8:45PM
^Not to derail the thread but everything has decreased in porn and that includes Europe. The only difference is that there has always been more anal shot in Europe than in the US so that's why you might think that it has remained the same.
Cloudburst
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Posted - Jan 6 2014 : 11:15PM
Why is more anal pornography shot in Europe?
What do you mean exactly, are you saying hard anal scenes have decreased in Europe also since 2008/2009?
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Edited by - Cloudburst on 1/6/2014 11:16:39 PM
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Porn has gone through several golden ages, always when it has been forced to innovate, when technology allowed it to expand its market, or when it has lucked into an exceptional talent pool
The 70s US Porno Chic era made several notable films, and is usually thought of as the "Golden Age" par excellence. It lucked into an exceptional talent pool in terms of fringe Hollywood/Broadway actors/directors/technical staff. OTOH, the need to "prove" that what was happening was indeed real sex ruined many of the sex scenes through excessive closeups and by establishing the curse of all b-g ever since, the idiotic, absurd, unerotic and un-intimate external cumshot.
70s-early 80s French classic porn is probably even better, and it now amuses me to read my old alt.sex.movies reviews that tout US Porno Chic and totally ignore the awesomeness of classic French filth. The fact is that my unwise, uneducated younger self was totally unfamiliar with those brilliant movies. The incredible restorations by Alpha France since the 90s put this right. Classic French porn had big budgets, unsurpassed technical quality, particularly in photography and editing, and on average probably better looking women than its US contemporaries. It was also generally more sexy in the action, with more fetishes, particularly that of submissive women discovering their sexuality that has been a staple of French erotic literature since the 17th century.
My favourite Golden Age these days is the mid-80s. Tremendous looking girls in the US (plus a few decent ones in Europe), plus the good fortune of the popularisation of VHS that brought porn to the non-seedy environs on one's own home and gave it replay value. The movie rental was also an excellent platform of delivery, cheaper and generally safer than the often horrible porn theatres. Others mentioned above the exceptional casts of the era, of young, un-boobjobbed and un-tattooed women of often great beauty. Just imagine a young Christy Canyon breaking into the business today, with her perfect natural body, those special-effect boobs, her cute face, tremendous articulate and enthusiastic attitude, sexy raspy voice. Imagine Candie Evans, Stacey Donovan (and her perfect bush), that yummy doughnut that was young Taija Rae, or the all-time all-rounder Ginger Lynn. Sex scenes got hotter, anal (minus all the modern disgusting and woman hating paraphernalia) became a regular. I'm sorry, but seeing Buffy Davis taking it up the arse with gusto in almost every scene, looking as if she genuinely loved it, and NOT having to see gapes, A2M, spitting and chokefucking was seriously exciting.
Then things got shitty fast, with thousands of horrible boobjobs, unimaginative and unerotic videos, shoestring budgets, and horrible camerawork. Sure, there were bright spots like the first 5-6 years of John Stagliano's career or the tremendous fun of the 1987-92 Michel Ricaud era for Marc Dorcel in France. And as always there were some nice girls coming into the business, even ones with boobjobs (e.g. the young Vicky Paris was great, boobjob or no boobjob). But it was in general a horrible period.
The next Golden Age happened in Europe when the ex-Commie goddesses flooded over the Curtain. Sure, you guys got some splashback from that tide, and proceeded to waste the unprecedented (and never-to-be-repeated) talent of those girls by having them work for Max Hardcore, Rob Black, Michael Ninn and the rest of those talentless poseurs. But here there was a spasm of superb videos; with the exception of the Laure Sinclair era in France (a non-Commie goddess for once) they were generally lower budget, but who cares about budgets when Angelica Bella or Lea Martini are performing in front of the screen. The sex was hot, again anal being ubiquitous and ubiquitously shot as SEX and not as some bizarre humiliation ritual, the cameramen competent and the women spectacular.
The arse-end of this Golden Age in Europe had a brilliant coda in France with the work of the likes of F. Coppula and J. B. Root for Blue One and Dorcel, featuring great French models like Clara Morgane, Oksana D'Harcourt, the late, great Karen Lancaume or Oceane. But by the turn of the century some of those girls were being wasted in horrible gonzo (compare the work of uber-cutie Tiffany Hopkins in France and the US and you'll see what I'm talking about), and Dorcel decided to throw away all the pedigree of 20 years by filming horribly shot, stylized and DARK (in terms of picture, not themes) videos full of boobjobbed models. French porn has never recovered its position in my affections.
The final Golden Age was the girl-girl revolution that started in Britain around 1998-2000 by such people as Viv Thomas and Anna Span that finally gave g-g fans what they always wanted and never got: more foreplay, longer scenes and a total absence of toys. Several companies sprang up in emulation (Sapphic Erotica in Europe, and GFF and its many clones in the US) and made some excellent work too. It helped that a great talent pool was stumbled upon, both in Europe (with the great Hungarian generation of 2000 of Jo, Vera, Peaches, Sandra Shine, Sandy etc, and later the 2005 Czech intake of Eufrat, Zuzana Z., Nella, Rene etc) and the US. I imagine, but can't prove of course, that this bumper crop of supermodel-calibre women willing to fornicate on camera for our edification was encouraged to do so in girl-girl due to the sheer horribleness of contemporary b-g.
The lez Golden Age has been over for some years now: Viv Thomas lost his mojo about 3-4 years ago, and the US specialist studios make almost exclusively faux-incest fetish these days (what I call "Mommy porn": older/younger, "stepmothers"/"stepsisters", blackmail/coercion scenarios and other assorted creepiness). There's plenty of decent stuff around of course (what Malena Morgan did last year for Reality Kings was nothing short of remarkable), but the thrill of experimentation and the enthusiasm that permeated mid-decade productions is gone.
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Posted - Jan 7 2014 : 10:03AM
^^I suspect that one of the main reasons why there is more anal shot in Europe is because Europeans are more open to it than their North American counterpart. That is why most European performers have shot at least one or more anal scene in their career while it's very common for a US performer to never even shoot one.
I don't know how much you follow the porn industry in Europe but it's something that I've always done so that may be why I know they are in as much trouble as the US. I'd actually say that they are in worse shape in large part because so many Europeans Countries are in worse financial shape that the US. Let me know if you want proof because there are so many dead studios in Europe that it's not funny.
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Posted - Jan 7 2014 : 10:13AM
I wish I could add to your excellent post but you and I are on the same page. I'm going to ask you since you may know the answer but is there any chance that we will one day see all those amazing early Marc Dorcel movies released to the net? What pisses me off is that I rented most of them when they were on VHS but never thought of buying these amazing gems.
P.S: The only thing I'll add is that my favorite performer of all time is Annette Haven so any era that she was in is by default my favorite one. The only thing that I wished she had done in her career is an anal scene.
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Posted - Jan 7 2014 : 11:33AM
^
Thank you for your kind words. Also for mentioning Annette, also one of my all-time favourites although these days other ladies have taken over the top spot in my porn affections, such as the holy trinity of 80s cuties of Candie Evans, Taija Rae and Stacey Donovan (and her perfect bush :)), Angelica Bella, the pocket lez dynamo Vera Versanyi, and the too-beautiful-to-be-believed Eufrat.
All the classic Dorcel movies are available as DVDs, but of course this is both expensive and inconvenient. I imagine we've all moved on to digital formats by now, physical discs are such a pain. Unfortunately Dorcel Club (their paysite) only releases their terrible modern stuff. There was an announcement about 18 months ago that they were planning to release the classic stuff over their paysites, which would make a subscription an absolute must, but nothing seems to have come out of this so far.
Even more annoyingly, I don't believe there is any way to (legally) obtain digital versions of the tremendous Alpha France/Blue One catalogue. I have digitised most of my old DVDs myself, and of course you can get your own versions in all the various collector sites - but a proper legal way does not exist. It's absurd. I would love to subscribe to a paysite that stocks these masterpieces.
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Posted - Jan 7 2014 : 12:08PM
^Where can you buy all the classic Dorcel DVD? I know that there's a bunch of them in Dorcel's store but they aren't all there. At least I didn't see them. I also remember hearing the rumor that Dorcel would release all their titles but nothing ever came of it.
Edited by - pat362 on 1/7/2014 12:10:11 PM
 
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I was thinking about the store. Which ones are missing do you think? Just glancing at it I can't see an obvious absence.
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Posted - Jan 7 2014 : 12:41PM
^I'll have to do some research because I don't remember their titles so much as I remember certain scenes from those movies but I do know that many are missing.
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Posted - Jan 7 2014 : 1:48PM
2000 - 2008.
Tory Lane, Eva Angelina, Gianna, Gauge, Austin O'Riley, Flick Shagwell, Melanie Jagger and so many others. I thank you all for your performances. So much dirtier, better shot, less direction etc. All the points that has been said. It's a shame that porn isnt like that now.
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Posted - Jan 7 2014 : 2:33PM
True, but we should be thankful they're available at all considering how many films I have attempted to track down only to find they never even made it onto DVD and are lost forever, unless someone uploads a digital copy or you know a fastidious (and generous) VHS collector.
Anyway, thanks for the tip - I like Dorcel stuff and am eager to check out the older films.
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Posted - Jan 7 2014 : 7:24PM
I would also place the great Gen Padova on the list of stars from the last golden age (mid 2000s').
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Thank you, MrHector for all your lovin' over the years :)
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Posted - Jan 17 2014 : 3:27PM
^ Blown plenty loads to this girl right here over the years Hope all is well Gen
tintintin
Senior Member

1230 Posts
8/07
Posted - Jan 17 2014 : 4:43PM
1999 till 2005 when elegant angel was just as nasty as evil angel
Edited by - tintintin on 1/17/2014 4:44:11 PM
WyattEarp
Member

568 Posts
9/10
Posted - Jan 22 2014 : 6:04PM
It's obvious there are many opinions about what makes great porn and thus great periods for porn. From the beauty of the women to gonzo to no holes barred to fluids flying everywhere, there are very, very different viewpoints. I am going to kind of follow-up on Imperator's comments because as I have stated before he has been around since the infancy of the internet and I have a lot of respect for his knowledge of porn. I don't always have the same viewpoint, but I think I am roughly the same age and have a similar perspective in time and taste. I don't care for the really rough, raunchy and degrading porn that has had its popularity. I think facials are erotic, but I don't necessarily to see the women swirl around a full load in their open mouth. I'm fine with anal, but not at the total expense of vaginal sex. So you can see I have relatively conservative tastes.
THE SEVENTIES
Never got too excited about the women. Most of the films were either shot with very bad lighting or did not transfer well. The camera work and long, boring story lines were even more messed up than the Eighties. Bambi Woods in Debbie Does Dallas was an interesting flash in the pan, but in my opinion she is the only woman worth watching in that classic. I was too young to go to movie theaters to watch porn in this era, but I highly doubt I would enjoy masturbating in the back of a dark theater.
THE EIGHTIES
It seems like the 80s and the advent of the video revolution launched porn into the mainstream. It is now widely considered a golden era. For those of us in our youth during this era, we will probably make this point until we are in our grave. And back then my ejacuations were stronger, more satisying and I still can't get Angel out of my head. So what? Everything about sex is better in your youth. With the exception of a few incredible names like Angel, Annette Haven, Christy Canyon, Bridgette Monet, Ginger Lynn and some others, I'm not so sure generations that came later are that widely enamored with the stuff. The camera angles are totally boring and it has been proven that viewers are not interested in a long, continuous plot line. I can't stand the long close-ups especially on the men and the ridiculously disruptive cut away back and forth between two sex scenes. Often all a scene had was a camera pointed at a couch with performers engaging in just missionary and doggy-style. Since many of us born before 1970 never saw many porn movies (reels) until the video revolution arrived, it was easy for film makers to sell videos, create stars and make an impression. The chance at notoriety seemed to bring more beautiful women to the medium. With the exception that there was less plastic surgery, it is debatable that the women were more beautiful than other eras that came later.
THE CECIL B. DEMILLE LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD
I would give a special shout out to John Stagliano who in 1989 changed porn forever with The Adventures of Buttman. In my humble opinion, there was before Stagliano and after. Porn was never the same after that. From gonzo, to creative camera angles, international stars, global road trips and yes, oh yes, more focus on the female posterior, he brought a lot of innovation to the industry. Nobody inspired as many porn directors as John "Buttman" Stagliano.
THE NINETIES and EARLY 2000s
In my opinion, this was porn's golden age for the convergence of several factors. Peak technology, creative Directors and the Eastern European Invasion. Video rentals were in full swing by now. Adult sections in sole proprietor/small chain video stores flourished providing directors and stars a steady source of income. Many famous and creative directors cut their teeth in this era. Woodman, Ben Dover, Seymore Butts, John Leslie, Christophe Clark, Rocco Siffredi, Jules Jordan and Nacho Vidal to name a few. The era stands out for a steady flow of talent from the U.S. including more and more Black and Latin beauties combined with the new wave of sublime Eastern Europeans. I was amazed how one after another Eastern European with model like beauty and natural curves surfaced dropped their panties for the camera. Have you seen the women Czech actor Robert Rosenberg has fucked? I wish I had jumped on a plane bound for Prague in the early 90s.
THE AFTERMATH (TODAY)
Porn is fine today, but we all know the internet and bootlegging is affecting incomes. This has to have an impact on the talent pool and the length of a porn career. I think it has impacted the Eastern European pipeline. There seems to be a slowdown in emerging European stars. It would not surprise me if Eastern European women are opting for escorting and sugar daddys because the income is better. Escorting is also legal in most of Europe. This is allegedly happening here in the U.S. Look how many porn stars are available for hire in London. The abundance of internet porn also reduces the stardom factor. When anyone with a camera can shoot themselves having sex and post it on-line, I have to think this diminishes the allure for some women. Remember not many years ago, a true porn star could survive on a shoot per month. She would adorn box covers and strip club marquees.
THE ROB LOWE BAD INFLUENCE AWARD
Celeste and her plastic surgeon! This might be an obscure reference for some, but definitely not for others. In the early 90s, Celeste did some movies au naturel. She was initially an average "B" List porn actress with some perky breasts and a nice full ass. After a few films including a Stagliano film, she goes under the knife. To anyone who knew her early work, you could see she he had nose work, other face work and breast augmentation. The transformation was absolutely incredible. She went from an average porn actress to a stunning "A" list porn star with 167 titles and dozens and dozens of box covers. You might say she was the biggest star of the Nineties. You could not walk into the adult section of your local video rental store and not see her face and breasts. I blame her plastic surgeon because not only did he make her face stunning her boob job was and still is one of the better large augmentations I have seen. So long story short, fair or not, I blame Celeste and her plastic surgeon for all the bad plastic surgery that accelerated in the Nineties to today. To bring this back full circle, Imperator reviewed much of her work in the Nineties (see IAFD) including her pre-surgery turn in Stagliano's Butt Freak 1.
aclayfan All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5059 Posts
8/11
Posted - Jan 23 2014 : 8:41AM
Find this an impressive summation of the last 40+ years in porn. When it comes to the focus on women's butts, I've always seen Bruce Seven as the founding father.
WyattEarp
Member

568 Posts
9/10
Posted - Jan 23 2014 : 7:26PM
I believe Bruce Seven and John Stagliano were early colleagues at Evil Angel who were on the front of the "ass worship" curve in the U.S. I say this because I believe the Europeans and of course the Latin Americans always had a deep appreciation for the back-end of the female form.
coucher
Member

54 Posts
1/07
Posted - Feb 1 2014 : 3:27AM
From mid 90's to about 2007 when the stream of Eastern European talent was at its peak.
dzunior
New Member

4 Posts
2/14
Posted - Feb 1 2014 : 6:19PM
I agree, especially from 95-01. Euro Angels, Private Gold and Triple X, Assman series etc... oh and the amazing Dorcel movies (pretty girls, expensive settings, great lingerie) but now a days the girls have too many tattoos and piercings for my liking.
Goldstein All-Star Supporter
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"You have sacrificed nothing and no one."
3689 Posts
8/10
Posted - Feb 1 2014 : 7:33PM
Goldstein says that 1998 through 2004 was the last "golden age" of porn, with 2003 being the peak year.
Imperator
Member

117 Posts
4/11
Posted - Feb 9 2014 : 5:10PM
[snip]
Once again many thanks for the kind words. It is gratifying (and not a little flattering of course) to know that these ancient reviews -which are still available in the rame site, see my profile for the URL if interested - are still useful for some people. BTW, I saw this old post of yours where you mentioned:
I'd be very happy to participate in such a thread, although I'm sure that there are others equally venerable in age and much superior than me in knowledge around this forum.
But on topic, I can't say that Celeste is such a paragon or a cautionary tale. She's a grey area for me: if she had just stuck to the nosejob she would have been one of my 90s favourites. That was a good surgery. The minute she touched scalpel on boobs though she became a pariah for me - I'm too much of a boob fetishist to accept any boobjob, even one as expertly done as hers. BTW, all of Woody Long's ex-girlfriends seem to have had access to the same good boob surgeon, as Sandra Scream also had a decent boobjob (decent, as those ghastly things go).
Imp.
Edited by - Imperator on 2/9/2014 5:11:07 PM
WyattEarp
Member

568 Posts
9/10
Posted - Feb 18 2014 : 6:25PM
Imperator, it seems like we're having a little discussion about the changes in porn right here.
I totally concur with your disdain for fake breasts. This is one of the reasons I marvel at the natural beauty of the Czech and Hungarian girls. In Celeste's case, she already had ample and attractive breasts. Why so many women in porn today who have ample breasts can't resist increasing their size is beyond me? I suspect as a young star's novelty wears off she thinks large breasts will attract a new audience and extend their careers.
I omitted a name above when I noted some of the stars of the 80s. It was a great oversight to not mention Rachel Ashley.
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