^Well, considering it IS a gray area (ie, not illegal, etc.) Apparently we have some folks on ADT that wish to legislate their Sexual Morality onto others.... Ironic to be sure. One guess: Conservative Perverts? As a Pervert myself, I figure-who am I to judge other perverts (again, LEGAL perverts). Besides.... I have enough problems myself-so I don't have time to worry about the perceived flaws of strangers on the internet-what a luxury!
Laws are supposed to be governed by the morality of the day. But it always takes time for them to catch up as the legal change process is actually slower than social change, as it must be for an organized civilized society to function properly. That said, my 2 cents are: live and let live. Do we have the right to guide people or protect them from their own choices? If performers are consensually getting hurt or making bad decisions so that they may regret later on, should we prevent that through prudential regulation? Or should we let them figure it out? Should we preclude rough sex filmmakers to stop producing such material? Do we have the moral authority to do so? O we need to protect the interests and freedoms of the minority that may want this stuff? Difficult questions to answer...very difficult indeed.
Catalina Jose , Oye Loca No.6 . Amatuer girl , she gets roughed up by two guys , she clearly dosn't like the rough face fucking and keeps pushing back at them . The sex is rough , but when she gets anal in doggie she's clearly crying and in pain , hateting every second of it. By the end facials it's clear she want this to be over. Edited by - jakejd4949 on 2/16/2012 8:52:57 AM
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RE The uncensored truth about Lizzy London and Facial Abuse... When Lizzy was asked if she would do it again she responded. "Yeah. Actually." "I guess that's how mentally twisted and fucked I am." The point is that while rough porn might not be your thing... everyone has made their money, given their consent, and might have enjoyed their job. You know just like IRL. To each...
FOUND A NEW ONE... on a site called worldstarhiphop.com there's a video called "Life Of An Adult Entertainer Episode 4!" (not pirated, the director Brian Pumper intentionally leaks this stuff to these sites) starts off in a club with Brian Pumper attempting to rap, half way through it cuts into him getting a blowjob from some fan girls backstage. at the 8.40 mark, one of the girls snaps. AFAIK it was the result of a misunderstanding, she thought they called her a bitch or something of that nature. they try to calm her down but it keeps escalating. Then she starts throwing shit. The scene cuts to her throwing a punch at Brian Pumper, who takes her down to the floor and pins her. She keeps throwing slap/punches. It fades out with him forcibly dragging her out of the room. wouldn't surprise me at all if it was staged, seeing as there was some random cuts and the fact that the guy is a total attention whore... BUT.. I will say that if it's fake, all people involved deserve some recognition for what's probably the best acting you'll ever see in a gonzo porn. anyways, anyone see any new break downs? Edited by - heythatguy on 3/29/2012 5:53:10 AM
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Posted - Mar 29 2012 : 7:15AM
^ I couldn't find it. I did a search ad it returned every episode BUT episode 4....
^Links are good, just nothing pirated as you touched on in your earlier post. It didn't look staged, that is until you see her being restrained, then I don't know. I suppose the large edit leads you to wonder what happened in the meantime or as a porn fan you're conditioned to think such when it comes to edits. And how bad was the 'Pumper Dance' btw? Edited by - Jonny Jay on 3/30/2012 6:38:02 PM
LOL, I love seeing people take the moral high ground on a porn forum. As well as seeing some people jump out and down as soon as more extreme fetishes/porn is mentioned, too funny.
Bryn Brooks , only about 10 scenes 05-07 . Meat Holes 6 , she gets roughed up by Delilah Strong and Dirty Harry , she gets choked first , spit in her mouth and verbally abused. She crying several times , and the smile when she talks after it's over is so forced you know she can't wait to get the hell out of there .
Frankly, I do not want to see the stars breaking down from any sort of abuse. What I would like to see is more girls "breaking down" or whatever one wants to call it from the sheer joy of having multiple partners (boths sexes) and of course the sheer lust of having multiple orgasms. Seeing the ladies really getting off is what gets me off beautifully and isn't that what excellent porn is really all about anyway?
i posted this in another thread but i think here's a better fit. It's a complete list of every girl on FA that's ever tapped out. I'm working on another list for LA. Tried doing one for GG but came up nearly empty. The chicks on there dont even break a sweat lol. 1.) Clayra beau - nothing is shown or said in regards to her tapout, the scene just transitions directly into the popshot after only a few minutes. She blogged about her experience and posted some 'after' pictures, it isnt pretty. 2.) Frieda - very goofy looking girl, she cant handle the gagging at all, starts to tear up a bit while explaining why she cant go on. There's an awkward moment where she snaps at one of the stunt cocks for calling her a 'bitch'. Very weird exchange. 3.) Jerri - older woman, struggles with the gagging but there's no mention of it, the scene just cuts into the popshot after a few minutes. 4.) sunisa - asian girl, some pretty vile stuff in this one, (they drench her in Hot n Sour soup). No vocalization, just a quick cut into a popshot after 5 minutes. 5.) Tandra Day - chunky girl, she lasts a little longer than the others, but after about 8 minutes of throatfucking it just randomly transitions into a facial. 6.) Kelly Klass - literally quits after just 1 minute of blowing a guy. Says "i cant do this". 7.) Lacey Jones - motions the time-out signal 10 minutes in, says "im done" and walks off set. It seems the final nail in the coffin was the cameraman's questions regarding how her incarcerated ex-husband would react if he saw what was happening to her. 8.) Mikayla - cute girl, quits 17 minutes in during the throatfucking, says 'im done'. Unlike most of the other girls, she doesn't come back for a popshot. 9.) Vanessa Naughty - tons of puke in this one, quits at the 17 minute mark, says "i cant do this", sticks around for the popshot though 10.) Summer Love - feisty chick, talks shit to the cameraman, doesn't last long at all though. She walks off after just minutes of throatfucking. anyone know of any others? from FA or not, eitherway.im all for orgasmic breakdowns. check out Go Ahead & Ream Me by Acid Rain in the BTS there's a mexican girl that needs a good 10 minute to compose herself after cumming. It's not a breakdown per se, in fact she's the exact opposite of emotional. She looks completely drained, about to pass out. There's some good dialogue about it between her and the cameraman. Edited by - heythatguy on 5/11/2012 1:27:21 AM
WardqueenJanine - What is your take on this topic? Whether one agrees with you or not on any given subject your opinion is always well thought out and I for one appreciate that.
just recently watched an interview with Max Hardcore and one of his girls (Layla). This was definitely shot prior to his stint in prison, but it cant be much older than 5 or 6 years. anyway, at one point he describes one of the weirdest breakdowns that's ever occured on one of his sets. basically, he says the girl just completely snapped in the middle of the scene and starts going crazy, crying and screaming about hippies. Yes, hippies. does this scene ring a bell? google didnt get me very far. He said that she ended up finishing the scene, so I doubt the scene was canned.
Rocco movie, forget which. Kagney Linn Karter and Mike Angelo in which she breaks down. Repeating what someone else said, when i've seen Rocco handle those situations, he's come across as pure class. Highlights how the scenes are merely theatre.
& i cant find any movies containing those 3 people, is it possible you're confusing some of the actors for others? was it any of the movies listed here? http://www.gamelink.com/ppm/porn/pornstar/Mike+Angelo++Rocco+Siffredi Edited by - heythatguy on 7/12/2012 9:31:33 PM
It was featured in the BTS but cut out of the main scene. My bad if you only want main scenes. Rocco Power Slave 1 http://www.roccosiffredi.com/en/Power-Slave/dvd/5445
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Posted - Jul 13 2012 : 1:45PM
I think that all that is at issue is that, the IAFD tracks performers in actual sex scenes, but not "performers" appearing in behind-the-scenes segments. So, there is no way to connect performers together if they only appear together in extras that are not sex scenes, via the IAFD. FWIW, when you use the IAFD "performer with" search, it returns two sets of answers: One are known scenes where the two performers appear together. Two are movies where the performers are both in the cast credits, but they don't know if they perform together. It is this second group where you may find performers that didn't necessarily perform together, but may have interaction during the course of behind-the-scenes and extras segments (i.e. because they are in the same movie's cast). They might even have brief sexual encounters during a behind-the-scenes segment, but, again, this is not something the IAFD is going to track (and how can they?), so it is not going to be a searchable item from within their database.
And why is when some violence is discussing a bunch of feminists arrive and start stinking? The best breakdown by far (apart from max hardcore/facialabuse/gag factor/latinaabuse) is Meat Holes 3 - Georgia Southe scene. She was young and unprepared and clearly got more degrading than expected, and burst in tears at the end Funny to watch where greed takes women. She surely wanted to stop the scene at some point, but greed for money didn't let her do that
^ That's hot! I wish more scenes were like that! It's not great porn until the female falls to pieces. I like how they choose money over self-respect/dignity. Money wins most of the time
well, shit happens. you can't predict everything in life, you know. porn stars breaking down isn't the purpose of porn in the first place of course. but sometimes it's funny to see someone like Taryn Thomas break down a bit in meatholes. At some point the guy who was slapping Taryn was hardly resisting laughter at her resentful reaction. I don't see much 'sad' about it. Some brutal stuff which leaves bruises or scars on a skin like you sometimes see in certain torture/BDSM movies is very sad indeed, and shouldn't be legal. But just watching a pornstar receiving a bit harsher treatment than she was expecting and her getting confused with it is just funny, not sad Edited by - remotehost on 7/15/2012 8:33:06 AM
^ OK. I don't see how it's in any way funny. I meant that I think it's sad that people find it funny. I suppose the people who actually get off on it can't really help being turned on by it. At least they have a halfway decent excuse. To say you enjoy it just because you think it's funny that she got more than she bargained for is a little more twisted than getting off on it.
Well tastes differ. And not all scenes are funny of course. I definitely find funny scenes from meatholes series with Taryn Thomas or Bianca Pureheart, for example, whereas Nikki Hunter got a bit too much and wasn't funny to watch. And I didn't say one couldn't get off on such scenes, of course one can. But it's just that I'd never call such scenes 'sad'. Again ripping off people's skin in BDSM and doing other serious injuries in porn can be indeed characterized as sad, but I'd never call 'sad' situation with some chick getting more bitch slapping than she was paid for (or more than she expected/thought she was paid for) Edited by - remotehost on 7/15/2012 9:49:49 AM
^ Yep, and none of the excuses hold up. I think its understandable if not acceptable to gloat when a douchebag politician or celebrity get caught cheating. But to take joy in the fact that young girls get "more than they asked for" and break down on camera for all the world to see... that speaks to a fucked up mind or sociopathic tendencies. And you can't get beyond the fact that sexuality is still very much a controversial topic which makes enjoying the humiliation even more questionable. As a side note, I think producers are crossing ethical lines when including these parts of the scene and some times the whole scene. The girl is probably afraid to get a bad reputation for not allowing them to use the scene and the producers are probably on a tight budget... but it shouldn't be this way.
Well.....an optimist's bump here. I think the attraction is, as some lone voice in the dimestore psychology trainwreck the thread became, is reality. After ten thousands scenes of pouting girls vamping for the camera while cursing and fake orgasming, it is interesting to see little bits of reality. Two non-violent examples come to mind, and they aren't in the category of "breaking down" but more in the category of "breaking character". And maybe it is just the girls dropping the mask and being annoyed sometimes. One was Riley Brooks in Naughty Little Nymphos 16. At the end she is taking two facials, and obviously was worried about her hair or her makeup or something, and tells the first guy several times to come in her mouth, with a flash of a hard-eyed scowl. He promptly comes in her hair. She is visibly angry and tells the next guy several times, and he does get it all in her mouth, but it was amusing to see her adopt this sudden prudishness after taking a DP for a half hour, lol... Riley Brooks also had an interesting interview with Ed Powers where she denied starting out her career as "Elizabeth Terlato" and again looked ticked when he pushed. I thought that was intriguing....she had a gap of a year there and came back with a caesarean scar and a new haircut. But made me wonder if her real name was actually Terlato! lol... I won't comment on Max except to say damn near every scene in the Euro takes end up with him breaking the girl down to puking and a piss-covered, make-up smeared crying face. Mentioning merely one or two here is damning him with faint praise. Max jumped the shark with the teeny clothes and pedophile banter, ruined it by having to be a sicko. I'm a porno fan but if i were on the jury I probably would have voted to convict him just to draw the line and distinguish his sick crap from the rest of the industry. I guess the gist of what I am saying is that the little breakthrough of a real person is very intriguing to me. Sometimes it may be just in the interviews. Ed Powers interviews Paige Turner, and she tears up a little bit when he asks her what her current boyfriend thinks, and then gets a little ticked thinking back when he asks her about scenes she regrets....I don't know, call me a raincoater, but it is a moment.
Yeah I agree with that but then again so are the porn guys, they to are out there selling their self respect and dignity also. I mean they are out there selling a fantasy and play up to the fantasy for all those who are fans of theirs. If its a ways and means of getting paid and providing for thier family, then these people are going to put themselves through it over and over again including if they break down or not.
Looks like the scene with Kelly Klass in Facial Abuse was a REAL breakdown, someone just sent her a tweet asking if she was molested, because she quit after the male performer said the word daddy. She has set her twitter account to private now. I know the topic is 2 years old but i thought i would add an update.
Ashley Blue in the bts of 7 the hard way. Everyone keeps asking if she wants to stop, but tears rolling down her face she insists on continuing.
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Sexxtons Facial abuse scene is the most realistic scene I have seen where the girl wants to kill the guy for pushing her head down but then cuts to the next scene where she is fucking him.
Jasmine Gomez in LA I was wondering what happened to her... I saw her last web-movie from LA.com, a completely different scene from the others.... where it's like she got lot and lot of gagging on cock until she pukes on it (quite bad). in L Abuse she definitely looses control and get abused, throatfucked, force fucked with the face on her puke..... and its humiliated has i never saw before... in this video she's visible stressed off for the scene and disgusted.... well...i was too!! that shooked me a bit! I am wondering how much a porn actress can be paid do to a disgusting scene like this with force-fucking, throatjobs until vomit... ??? Does someone knows something about her? that was her last shoot .. It seems she emptied her twitter account...