I don't know if it has been discussed before but I was wondering what do the porn studs have up their sleeves to receive blowjobs from the hottest girls in the most seductive positions for upwards of twenty to thirty minutes and not ejaculate?? I mean, any normal male would ejaculate prematurely in the proximity of such sexy darlings with much much less effort on the part of the sweeties!!! Do they; 1. Ejaculate before shooting so that the duration could be inreased by comparative lesser sensitivity for the second time? 2. Use some kind of lotion or cream ? If so, what kinds?
^ They take pills or shoot up to get and stay hard. They're not necessarily even aroused. It's a job, and it's pretty clear that in many cases the guys have a very hard time ejaculating at all.
I should also add that they're professionals. I don't want to disparage their abilities in any way. So, this is certainly part of why they are able to do what they do. They're sexual athletes.
In addition to the ED meds and natural ability Gore Gore Girl mentioned, the shooting of a porn scene is not glamorous. Lots of stopping and starting and lots of positions that look good on film but aren't that pleasurable in real life. Sometimes the guy isn't actually into the girl he's performing with. What we see in the finished product isn't the reality. Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 2/13/2016 5:10:50 PM
There are male pornstars who claim they don't take any enhancements. Also, in the old days such enhancements didn't exist. I read somewhere that main job of a pornstar is the ability to jack it and cum on demand. In that case, staying erect is the main concern...not coming too soon. Keep in mind that when a guy is doing porn for a living at some point it becomes a real job and they aren't so easily excited as the typical non-porn guy. I've heard several porn guys say they aren't always attracted to the women they're with and have to find something about them that turns them on. Plus there's lots of stopping and starting and being aware of hitting positions and such so they're usually distracted by that stuff. Some porn guys have said if they are afraid they are about to pop they think of something disgusting, slow down or stop for a few minutes (this is usually edited out). But these days it seems the pop-shot is the big problem for some guys. That's why you see guys standing there whacking it for so long before they finally pop. The strange thing about so many of these guys is seem to not want the girl even touching them when they're trying. You'd think the opposite would be true. Most of the girls seem more than willing to help but some of the guys seem to want no part of it. Some of the hottest scenes to me are when the girls seem super into the sex and seem like they're trying their best to cause the guy to lose it before their supposed to. On the other side of things, I've always believed that most girls shooting porn don't want to have an orgasm on set. The ones that almost seem to brag that they never orgasmed are among the ones who clearly don't want to.
lol I never bought into the whole "porn isn't as awesome as people think". Yeah, for girls but not for the men. These old guys who refuse to retire simply want to continue having sex with hot girls. It's a natural need.
Oh, I will also add for the fun of it that one of my all-time favourite scenes is Manuel and Isis Taylor in Bootylicious Girls. Manuel is on the verge of cumming through the whole damn scene and keeps slapping himself in the face or backing off in frustration. It's epic. One of those lightning-in-a-bottle things that pornographers and performers would normally try to avoid. And apparently Mason was pretty pissed off...lol). Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 2/13/2016 5:29:43 PM
I've listened to lots of porn guys talk about porn and all of them have said it's not the fun time most people think it is. Most porn girls will admit that the guys have the harder job of the two sexes. Having sex is perhaps easy and fun but performing sex acts to be caught on camera is actual work.
Manuel was one of Isis' fav guys to work with. Isis also once said there was another pornguy (I don't remember who) who had a hard time not popping with her because he said her pussy was so tight.
I'll say what I always say in response to the 'porn not all it's cracked up to be for guys' debate: I wouldn't mind finding out first-hand. Neither, I imagine, would the 99.9% of guys you put that question to.
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Posted - Feb 18 2016 : 5:43PM
This is like running for the bus just to question if not every runner out there professional or not has gotta to be on dope to keep on doing that. Why must people demonstrate their ignorance?
^^Experience learns that 99.9% of the guys will not even get it up in front of a camera and crew. Jacco
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Posted - Feb 18 2016 : 9:27PM
A lot of guys stay because they really have nothing else to do to make a living. They are not going to be employable in a well paying non-porn career with their faces all over the internet. it isn't just the women that face this problem. They can still have sex with "hot girls" if they leave porn; and it would actually be better sex. So it isn't just as simple as staying because they need to have sex with women. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 2/18/2016 9:28:55 PM
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Posted - Feb 18 2016 : 9:42PM
also , sometimes if they do cum, that will be cut from the final production and they will get him hard again and keep going so it looks like there never was a break. the magic of editing However, ED meds and especially the Caverject injections make it a lot more difficult to cum which is helpful if you want the guy to be concrete hard for an excessive period of time. Sometime the guys have to beat off for a long time to get your cumshot; this gets cut during editing.....even with the cuts you can see how hard guys have to pound it sometimes:) a sign of the times we are in. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 2/18/2016 9:46:20 PM
I was talking about the aging older guys who lose their looks. They are not going to be having sex with such beautiful young women on such a consistent basis if they quit porn, even if they end up as rich sugar daddies which only a handful can accomplish as directors or other high end positions. Also yes they can still make a living doing another job outside of porn. They just won't make the same amount of money as in porn so they have to make sacrifices. There was an article a while ago about Shane Diesel who has never quit his day job and he's a very recognizable performer.
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Posted - Feb 19 2016 : 12:04PM
@zeteticinksa: Well yes as many have stated the problem is how the cocksmen can stay hard for so long and not how they can hold on without cumming. Keeping Wood is another story but sticking to the cumming issue, I could only add that there are muscle exercises which you can perform in order to control your ejaculation. You can even start doing them yourself in the toilet trying to control the flow of your pee. I would suggest to do them in the wild though, cause your gf might not be very happy with the toilet condition afterwards. Plus, if you are careful enough, you might even learn to "listen" to your cock when the sperm is about to load the artery and hold down the friction to avoid premature ejaculation. Pay attention however to unload all the time in the end, because you might have serious problems if you dont! Btw from all sexual activities the most difficult one to cum is by blowjob, unless the girl is really really good! That is why it is very rare to see a male performer ejaculating from fellatio. Meanwhile... Explore Sexuality!
when I have sex more often, I last longer. I'm not exceptional in any way. it's my dick's way of yawning, like, "really man, pussy again?" I imagine dudes in porn have sex way more than I do.
ABout that, it also has to do with circumcised men lacking a lot more sensation than intact men so while they last longer, it's more difficult to climax. There's likely a big difference between American and European male performers.
I have nothing to add to the discussion. But there are tons of young and new guys shooting porn and they can last long enough to finish one take porn scenes. Look at Rocco Siffredi latest movies like Psycho Teens 9. There's an orgy featuring young guys and girls and they're all able to do the job. I also think sex (basically everything) is nowhere near as enjoyable if you are being watched and forced to do it. But it doesn't apply to everyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjpNgWEDc2g Manuel urged his new wife to stop being a b/g performer with other guys because he is jealous ALTHOUGH the rates for females are a lot higher yet he refuses to retire from b/g with other women himself. To me it seems like he really loves his job. Same with other guys who married & have kids but returned very quickly to perform on camera with young girls and are really old but don't want to retire (rocco siffredi, nacho vidal, pierre woodman ... )
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Posted - Feb 19 2016 : 7:51PM
^ I think the return to porn for the male performers is more due to economic reasons than you may think. Ego may play a role too, like a boxer who won't retire when he should for his health even if he's made loads of money (eg. Ali, Holmes). I also suspect some of those directors appear in their own videos as performers to save money since profit margins are so razor thin these days. In contrast to the performer/directors you mention look at John Leslie who retired from performing in the late 80s/early 90s and worked as a director only for the rest of his career. Eric Edwards retired as a performer and worked as an editor. Joey Silvera only does the occasional POV bj scene in his movies, there you definitely get the vibe of Joey indulging himself with the performers he likes. Edited by - BlackSix on 2/19/2016 7:53:01 PM
[/quote] also , sometimes if they do cum, that will be cut from the final production and they will get him hard again and keep going so it looks like there never was a break. the magic of editing However, ED meds and especially the Caverject injections make it a lot more difficult to cum which is helpful if you want the guy to be concrete hard for an excessive period of time. Sometime the guys have to beat off for a long time to get your cumshot; this gets cut during editing.....even with the cuts you can see how hard guys have to pound it sometimes:) a sign of the times we are in. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 2/18/2016 9:46:20 PM [/quote] How do male performers masturbate with no lube? Every movie they're in they jack off and cum with no lubrication. I can't masturbate with no lube because I ended up having 2 scabs on my penis for about a year and it was painful! My doctor told me that I was putting too much friction to it so he recommended me to use masturbation lube. I had to put vasoline to treat it. It's healed now and I've been using lube to this day. Edited by - ilikeithairy9 on 2/19/2016 8:29:34 PM
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Posted - Feb 19 2016 : 10:25PM
This thread is interesting. I think those guys takes pills and drugs to be always hard and ready. Maybe they even use cocaine who knows?
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Posted - Feb 19 2016 : 10:29PM
Personally I wouldnt be proud to be able to cum into anything that can walk because then there is no real chemistry anymore and it ruins the fun. I know its porn but I dont fancy these guys really!
I thought it was interesting that Phoenix Marie mentioned in an interview that some male performers actually have the pump implanted in their penises and simply pump up before a scene. There's a button/pump implanted and they just press/pump that up a few times and they have instant wood. She was saying with some of these guys they feel it's the way they make their living and it's worth it to do whatever they can to stay in the game.
Remember also that they do use a ton of lube in porn. If you use enough you aren't really getting any friction, so it's just a matter of keeping your boner up and not so much about resisting the stimulation and controlling ejaculation.
It is absolute scientific fact. And I think you got that the other way around, it's the cut crowd that tells the uncut crowd that they're weird, unhygienic etc.
^If you don't believe that the foreskin adds a lot of sensation despite all the studies that prove it then it's just bitterness(in this case not knowing what was missed out on) to deny it.
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Posted - Feb 20 2016 : 4:25PM
I don't actually hold an opinion, it even seems likely, but have never seen any proof beyond folkloric claims. Want to point us towards at least one of 'all' these studies I assume you've diligently read?
^Sounds like you don't want to do a quick google search because it might confirm your fear. lol. Here's one of many: circumcision decreases sensation We're not even talking about the moral aspects of circumcision here, this is about foreskin's anatomy which is common sense and factual not opinion based. Edited by - 2bollocks on 2/20/2016 4:57:23 PM
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Posted - Feb 20 2016 : 5:59PM
Thanks, I've never cared to look into it. That study notes that most other studies had differing outcomes and the report, as is typical for studies around sexuality, is all self-reported so very subjective and far from the scientific certainity you take it do be. My skepticism is less to do with the claim itself and more to do with declarations on the internet about 'studies' and the treatment of sociological studies on sexuality reliant in self-reporting being treated as if they were as scientifically proven as a physical law or mathematical equation.
'self-reported'? qualified people did several tests with groups of people and made conclusions based on the results. This is how studies work. If you want to go into it deeper, literally, they've done dissection as well and the nerve endings of the foreskin are a fact as it's up to 20.000 nerve endings. I wonder how you're gonna spin that one lol. Edited by - 2bollocks on 2/20/2016 6:17:40 PM
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Posted - Feb 20 2016 : 6:29PM
You're tilting at windmills. But did you bother to read your own link or just did a quick google search and linked it without giving it a glance? However they vary widely in outcome. The present study shows in a large cohort of men, based on self-assessment, that the foreskin has erogenous sensitivity. 'Self-assessment' means self-reported. This report acknowledges that other studies have produced different outcomes. One sociological study based on self-reporting doesn't remotely meet the bar of a 'scientific fact' as you earlier claimed. Do you believe the old canard about vaccines causing autism as there was one study by 'qualified people' (btw how do you know they are qualified?) that found that? The biologist and mathematical statistician Richard Lewontin wrote persuavely in It Ain't Necessarily So about the error of treating self-reported studies of sexuality as 100 percent scientifically valid. I'm not picking and choosing here, I recently brought up the issue in another thread about reports of sexual assault and rape that have to by their nature rely on self-reporting. These studies have value and there may be no way around the flawed methodology when it comes to sexuality and it is better to approach these issues with as much evidentary rigour as one can but all such studies should be taken with a grain of salt. Particularly when they confirm that old standby 'common sense.' As for nerve-endings, I did well in grade 12 biology but don't have the background to assess the significance of that apparent fact, do you? Apparently, according to all-knowing Google (blessed be its name) one fingertip has 2,500 per cm^2 nerve endings, apparently the most anywhere on the human body. So I guess Lovecraft was on to something when he'd rub fingertips with his newly married wife rather than have intercourse. Sorry, but I'm not really interested in pursuing an amateur biological Google duel. Unlike you and similar internet experts I'm willing to acknowledge my lack of authority to debate the matter with any substance. Edited by - BlackSix on 2/20/2016 6:54:49 PM
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Posted - Feb 20 2016 : 8:16PM
Why every man in america is circumcised? This is a mystery to me. You aren't jewish so why bother?
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Posted - Feb 20 2016 : 8:46PM
^It bears pointing out that not every man in America is circumcised, but those who are are generally so because their parents succumbed to groupthink and misinformation.
It depends what kind of porn you're making. Not every producer has a 'crew' looking on. I think Max Hardcore had, like, one other guy on set and Rodney Moore was pretty much by himself, also. Like I said, I'd be happy to give it a go; if it doesn't 'happen', so what? I'll still be breathing. Edited by - N00dlesDaddy on 2/21/2016 1:00:23 AM
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Posted - Feb 21 2016 : 2:25AM
It was a Christian thing... evangelicals always did it by default and that just perpetuated throughout society here in North America. People did it out of routine and tradition, not for any legitimate reason. Peopled don't even know why they do it, they just do. I think it is drifting away though, less and less parents are doing it because it never served any purpose. I do find it interesting how Christians are outraged over an African family cutting a baby girls vagina, but no problem snipping their boys. Strange how the minds work with religious folk. I would think male circumcision will be relegated to the fringes in America in a couple more generations.
Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 2/21/2016 2:29:58 AM
^^Very well said Cindy. In fact all it does is harm babies, 200 deaths a year because of circumcision and many other complications, a lifetime of ED problems which no doubt is linked to this topic about male porn performers having severe problems climaxing. But since it''s a multi-billion dollar business they make up stuff about circumcision preventing HIV or it being more hygienic(even though intact Europe has far lower STD rates and the men have no problems washing with soap daily). As you said many more parents realise the farce of this procedure now and will deny circumcision for their kids. Many men who start to realise how they were wronged will go into denial, like Blacksix did in this thread. I realise it is a painful fact to realise what you missed and you had no say in it as a baby.
They don't cut the girl's vagina--in fact, in some places they sew it up. It is the clitoris that they cut off, because that is the location of pleasure and thus must be done away with. Regardless of our position on circumcision (I find it strange at best, personally), I think we can agree that there is a difference between removing foreskin and removing a clitoris.
^ I think it's pretty obvious that cutting off a clitoris is worse than cutting off a foreskin. The equivalent on a man would be cutting off the head of his penis. I imagine most men would prefer their foreskin cut off than the head of their dick.
^My BS meter already went off after this statement:There are hundreds of deaths and other complications every year because of this practise on newborns. Whoever made that statement should try to say that to the parents of the victims of MGM(yes, circumcision is also mutilation) with a straight face. And to claim that cutting off the the entire glands is comparable to FGM is even more crazy. From what I've read, the cases where circumcision doesn't cause a lot of problems is when not all the skin has been removed. BAsicely the less they cut the better. I don't know about the severity of the effects of FGM, I don't doubt that they're horrible too and I think it's just as barbaric. But the foreskin is important anatomy with different functions, this is fact. And removing it especially at such a young age has caused problems for many people. If FGM's only side effect is loss of sensation then yeah there's a difference, MGM would be worse. That article agrees in different parts too. But I'm holding off judgement untill you can explain otherwise, even though you shouldn't have turned this thread into a gender issue like you often do.
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And apparently Mason was pretty pissed off...lol).
