Leatherdick, point noticed. She isn't the only one I named though, and she isn't the first girl to enter the industry at 18yrs of age either but I get ur point. Sasha, sometimes it's better to just admit one's faults, then defending everything and anything till the last breathe. No one is perfect, and we all have our faults...even someone like Jenna haze could lack somewhere (though very hard to detect). This way, you can work on them, and improve. You did stop doing anal for awhile, there can't be any denying that. I am not the only one to say your dirty talk seems too fake and rehearsed, and I also think more facial expressions in your scenes would be great. You look at the camera way too much in a lot of your scenes, which is never a good thing to do while in the act. Anyway, I'll end this now before some people start thinking I am picking on you or something, because I am not babe. I hope you just take those things into consideration, that's all. Now about my reason for starting to watch porn or the goddess of passionate love Miss Jenna Haze. Well, I agree with you that when she first came out...she was amazing! Then she signed with JKP and stayed with them for along time though...and that's the period I was talking about. Now since her comeback, her scenes are nothing short of amazing....flawless work!
Well, Arin, you always forget that your taste is not mine, or anyone else's, and that the very best performers, directors, artists are their very best when they do what turns them on and don't fucking sweat the fans bantering. I've been around the biz a smidgen but enough to know that it's like so much else that is institutional: Real good shit rarely happens because those who own the means of production are mediocre dipshits. The reason you get to dig Jenna Haze properly is her BF dumped bazilliions into a 2-disc feature on her (and, I agree with the other guy, she's great, but she was maxed in terms of her gonzo awesomeness by Flesh Hunter 2 ... still great, but at a plateau ... doesn't seem so since she came back from contract, but once you've been to the mountaintop, you can only go back to the mountaintop, unless you pull a Belladonna sideways move ...) Or ,,,, eee heee heee, visit Kink.com ... that's the cutting edge, and if you haven't done Kink, then there's a frontier left to explore .... check out the Princess Donna podcast. ...
Also, Mia Rose? I may not be up to date, but I have yet to see a SINGLE scene where she wasn't full-tilt orgasmo ... agreed, I have ONLY seen her in Evil Angel films.
Arin, will you be opening "Arin's Porn Camp," to get girls like Sasha in line? I imagine she earned more this year failing to meet your criteria than you will in the next five years of complaining and ass-kissing. This was all meant to be one big reply ...sorry. I'm done, just had to offer some rejoinder ... lol. Edited by - skronker on 6/2/2007 3:00:15 AM
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lmao stronker, not complaining...and there was certainly no ass kissing. Like I said, this was just MY opinion so obviously others don't have to agree with it. Also, Sasha isn't the only girl I mentioned...and some of the things I've said, others have also noticed, if you'd browse the forums alittle. Anyway, enough of that. I have also praised sasha's scenes in the past which were really good, so can't say I just don't like her or anything. I thought this was the reason this thread was made....who people think got better, and who got worse :) Btw, the things I've pointed out.....you don't think any of them are valid? I think you would agree with me on most as well, that they don't look or sound good in scenes? Edited by - ArinsystmaticX on 6/2/2007 3:07:47 AM
I think porn fans have the attention span of cocker spaniel puppies. Not every performer has the same agenda for what they do as fans expect from the norm, even the norm of really extreme girls. Everyone doing the same thing gets boring.
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Posted - Jun 2 2007 : 3:13AM
Humm, is it safe to say Stronker can see/hear no wrong when it comes to Sasha Grey? loll Oh well, it's all good. Matter of opinions.
K this is the second time I've heard that, in the last couple of days...who the fuck was AC Cream? lol Btw, the thread asked for my opinion who I thought got better and who I thought got worse....and I replied accordingly. I don't see any problem with that, just like other people, I did the same. So because I did exactly what others have in the thread, but suggested a certain name of some of your "can't do no wrong favorite"....it makes me AC Cream? Umm,interesting way of thinking there lol. I don't get why acouple of you Sasha fans are taking it to heart. There have been plenty of other names suggested in the thread too, you know. Is there a new rule on ADT that you can't point out anything bad about the performances of Sasha Grey? Cool, I'll write that down lol. It's my opinion, you don't have to agree with it. Btw, I am not the only person who thinks that way...have a read folks. https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/whichpage=1/topic_id=101574/forum_id=1/cat_id=1/101574.htm K all that aside, thanks Stronker for recommending that title of Robby D's Control. Not bad at all, so I am gonna take back some of what I said about his work soon. Thanks for that man. Edited by - ArinsystmaticX on 6/2/2007 9:50:56 AM
No, only the Del Rubio Triplets. Honestly, the last thing I ever want to do as a porn fan is armchair quarterback. Oh, her dirty-talking skills really need improving. Open that gape wider next time, 'k hon? You know, more unemployed losers would jack off 1 hex strenuously ejaculating thicker and more copiously if you'd let a gang of ex-felons fire their dubious loads into your torn-up asshole, babe ... do it for the fans! I find the tone patronizing. I'm not here to ride shotgun for anyone. As for Sasha, or anyone, say whatever ... My retort to you is based only in that you act like you know better than Sasha how to be "Sasha." I mean, how much does someone have to do to satisfy your needs as a viewer? Personally, I don't have time to watch so much porn that I even know what anyone's last dozen scenes were – which often are released way out of chronological order, so it's really hard to say that Starlet X "has really been slipping lately." What is "lately"? Usually, fans measure some sense of improvement when a girl masters a new stunt. Celina Cross now does super-sloppy deepthroat blowjobs – Face Fucking INc., jesus wow! – hooray! But once someone has done everything, then it all comes down to personality and "sportiness," which is what it's always all about anyway. Some girls just get out there and "do it." Others have a more conceptual approach. Edited by - skronker on 6/2/2007 1:04:52 PM
Excuse me? PJ Sparxx lethargic? We must have not been watching the same movies. One of my all time favorite stars. Of course, I'm like the only person here who prefers Vivid girls to anybody else. As for Holly Body, the only good scene I remember her in was one of the "Pussyman" movies, with Peter North and Jill Kelly.
ArinsystmaticX - AC Cream was a poster who had a way of saying things he knew to be inflammatory in an equally inflammatory way and had a knack for stating them as fact in cases where there were clearly more tactful ways to express his often-boned up opinion. But like you, he thought that if he followed his typical rude comments with a smilie face and a "I'm not trying to start an argument" then he was in the clear. All that ever told me is that he was well-aware that he rubbed people the wrong way but rather than adjusting, he just made half-assed attempts at correcting his behavior (hence the disclaimers and emoticons) or deflecting, making it everyone else's fault when other posters were bothered by his attitude. You guys have A LOT in common when I read your posts.
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LMAO!! Now that I am thinking about it, last few days of me on ADT have been like that. Ok, point noticed. Although I still don't think what I posted in this thread applies to any of that....and I did exactly what everyone else did. I'd be surprised if you said I've always been like that on here though. If you did some browsing, you'd know I've always been generally nice and supportive of most of the pornstars on ADT, even to some I am not even a fan of. You guys shouldn't be so touchy about a certain star you know, there will always be some people who may not like some of the things she does and they are entitled to express their opinion.
You miss the point. I don't think anyone cares WHO you're saying things about, it's what you say and how you say it. I am not a Mia Rose fan but I found your paragraph about her and her performances hilarious...in a very sad way. I was laughing AT you, not with you, buddy. And that's just one example of your very AC Cream-ish behavior.
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Hummm, you confuse me man. If anything, I've been accused of being a fanboy afew times in the past....and you're saying total opposite. Anyway, just like my behavior seems AC Cream-ish to you......your behavior seems pretty Eric-ish to me. Done with this childish name calling and taking things out of context though, let's get back to the topic.
I've met Eric in person so I guess there are worse things you can call me. He's a stand up dude. You, on the other hand, creep me out. I'm not calling you names, just making some observations about your posting. And as far as me being "Eric-ish" there's one major difference: I'm still here.
Ramsey's take "For me Trina Michaels got better and better" has to resonate with a lot of folks, I believe. I'm not a fan of big fake boobs and would love to have seen this girl stay all natural, but regardless, she's really quite something. my first impression of her was that she looked hard, (especially hard-faced), and I think that impression was heightened initially by seeing a couple scenes in which she was pretty roughly handled, didn't seem to be much into it, and had pretty garish make-up jobs as well. maybe she was just nervous, but I'd pegged her as the sort of girl to merely fill out a cast. not only has she become a great performer, I now realize that she's really quite naturally pretty, has far too great a face to require much in the way of make-up, and has a very winning personality and a totally sexy smile, too. it all comes out in spades when she's well partnered. and then there's that body. Yum!!!
I think Brooke Banner has improved considerably, not for doing things that she wouldn't do initially, but for now appearing to enjoy whatever she happens to be doing. PS bps - I met Trina at a "meet and greet pornstars" type of event and she was charming and well organized - she really has her act together. Edited by - Walter on 6/25/2007 10:37:17 PM
I'll call some names from my faves - first the good who got better with age / experience: -Sandra Romain Check out her 2007 stuff compared to early scenes from 2003. Too bad she's retiring soon... -Tiffany Mynx As a blonde, she was just the average porn chick with a really nice ass. With dark hair, and a bigger ass, she really looked special. Check out her amazing performance in Ass Worship 5 for example. -Olivia O'Lovely Constantly improved on looks & performance. Now on to the bad, porn chicks who went downhill, imho that is: -Belladonna She was extremely hot until 2005, then she started doing wild stuff, got pregnant. I was eager to see Cock Happy, but it disappointed me the most. Not only she did not look good at all anymore, the movie had way too much rough anal and stuff like that. Just not my cup of tea anymore. -Naomi ...ya'll know the rest. Saddest thing in porn. -Eve Lawrence After returning with Ass Worship 9, things got worse. Check out her wack looks in Meat My Ass 5, for example. Next, let's call them the ugly what they certainly ain't, but it's fitting my comment ). Chicks that hat ups & downs or no development at all: -Angelica Sin Great performer, you could call her a legend spending 10 years in the biz. Late 90's she was a nice porn chick. Her prime was 2000-2004, she put on a little weight and her performances were amazing. Look what happened nowadays, let's say last two years. She got chubby, almost fat. And it saddens me, it looks like she's drunk or on some other drugs in every scene. -Gina Lynn Nice in the beginning, prime with Darkside. So amazing. Should have gone the gonzo route, sticking with Jules and becoming Ass Worship cover. Decided to choose the other way, no development at all. Just that she got older. -Sara Jay I'm not here to bitch about her doing no anal, it's just the fact that all her scenes are the same stuff. Correct me if i'm wrong, she has never shown up doing any stuff apart from the ole in & out. No rough sex, no dominatrix/slave stuff, no nothing - too predictable...
I agree with Crucifixio Jones in that I really don't care if the girl doesn't fuck black, white, mexican or whatever. If the performance is hot it's hot! Look at Jenna Haze for example who went a long time without doing IR scenes. I'd also add her to the list of performers who got better. Edited by - leeroy magic on 7/14/2007 12:21:01 AM
pornstar who got better : sunrise adams i think since she got her boob job its add a more sensual look in her. cytherea cytherea .... nothing to add more i think , she's awesome.
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As for getting worse, Monica Mayhem comes immediately to mind. She was once tat free and had a nice combination of natural breasts, a unique look (not a great beauty but very pretty in her own way) and even a little bit of a girl-next-door quality. She got a boob job which I had mixed feelings on but mostly liked. However, she then got multiple tattoos which absolutely ruined her for me.
Well I haven't been able to bring myself to watch any of her newer scenes, so performance wise, she may be the same or better. But looks wise, Friday is far removed from her curvy hardbody days ala Flesh Hunter 6. She was toned perfection back then.
Well for me the stars who got better are definately Kristal Summers. She used to be a very flat performer during her Contract days,but now as a Gonzo MILF she no longer has any Boundaries.Her scenes are longer and her stamina has Improved with age,and that is totally amazing. Cindy Crawford was okay as a Contract Girl,but her recent Gonzo Romps have been getting nastier and nastier,again she no longer has any boundaries. Devon Lee first started as a Lame performer,but has been Improving with every scene she does.Her IR work is always priceless. As for Girls who got worse well. One name comes to mind. Shyla Styles. Ever since she sold out,her performances have been getting weaker and she has lost her energy and stamina in scenes. She's often struggling to complete a shoot,and I guess those Fake Boobs are causing such extra weight and she tires too quickly.Out of all the performers,she has declined the worst. Like Ramsey,I will not Blow the Trumpet of Devout Dodgers,and so I will not be praising Tory Lane and her Good friend Harmony. End of post.
I have to agree with you. She's still a very good performer but recently I bought a new movie mostly because she was in it and I was shocked how she looked. She put on so much weight and it all ended up in the wrong places. If she had put on weight and she ended up with a curvy body it wouldn't be bad but all her curves (except for her breasts)are gone. She's just big. It's kinda a shame because she still is a strong performer and has a great personality.
Well, the boob job is one important thing. I _love_ her new look, and so I like her newer scenes much more than the older ones. I think Brandy Taylor got slightly better. Also Sativa Rose Concerning Eve Lawrence... She does anal now, which is great! But her look in some of the newer stuff is really weird. Don't know, hope it's just bad make-up.
Who got better? A few that some to mind : Brianna Love What a revelation this girl has been. I only started watching her recently when I saw her in an Evasive Angles Big Butt movie. I vaguely remembered her name, but had never felt the desire to purchase anything she'd been in. Since that first purchase, she's been a must buy for me, she just seems to be getting better and better. Since she came back with that great booty, the sexual energy in her scenes have jumped to a new level. She's right up there among my favorite performers right now.
Sabrine Maui I remember seeing this girl in her early scenes, thinking that she was very attractive, but not being overly impressed with the performance. Then, when she started to perform with some of the better male pornstars, the improvement was dramatic. She just had a great attitude to performing, there was a real enthusiasm in her scenes, and when you combined this with her looks it made for a fantastic combination. Easily one of the best Asian performers of all time for me. Katja Kassin First saw Katja in one of Joey Silvera's movies, was instantly attracted to that great ass, and enjoyed her performance. To be honest, I had never really been into many of the European stars. But Katja became the exception. I started to see her in more and more scenes, I was so glad that someone with such a great booty was doing a lot of work. She really improved with her deepthroating skills as well, this was particularly noticeable compared to her early scenes. There was a consistency of performance with Katja, she is one of the few performers who can still do a great scene even if paired with a less than perfect stud.
Who got worse? Well, in my view, I have yet to see a pornstar whose performances improved after signing a contract. I totally understand why they do it, with the financial security they get from knowing they have a certain income guaranteed, but as a fan I don't enjoy the type of scenes that follow. Tera Patrick is the classic example for me. I liked some of the early gonzo stuff she did, I thought she'd be great to watch if she'd stayed on this path, but it was not to be. She may be financially better off by her choice, which I guess is the bottom line for many performers, but I would have loved to see what she could have done if she'd stayed on the gonzo path.
I guess for me, someone who got better would be Julia Ann. I've seen her early stuff, stuff with Vivid, didn't do much for me at all. But the more recent stuff she done, under Wicked Contract and the one NA scene she's done, it just seems a lot better than the earlier stuff, ANd I think she looks hotter than ever as well. As for who's gotten worse, pains me to say it, but Cassidey. Her comeback stuff has really not been much in motivation, you know. The same energy doesn't seem to be there anymore.
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Great thread My brief comment on Brooke Banner "getting better" - besides that amazing rack/body of hers, I always found her bad attitude to be her most INTERESTING feature, since porn is filled with girls who scream "fuck my tight young pussy" over and over. I liked the fact she had candid reactions to the action that was going on. And if she had a bad attitude, it just made the facial all the more of a payoff. Now, she's learned to "play the game" and act like she's enjoying herself... so she's just another pornstar. Oh well.
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