I say 7 days.

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Male talent on the other hand, not so much.

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Therefore any opinion of a past performer is going to be skewed negatively by the kind of porn she did and if you aren't a fan of that type of porn in the same way that if you are a fan of gonzo then no matter how great the performer is. You won't necessarily think so. It's also important to point out that many past performances are no longer viewable as many past movies are no longer available.

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Don t know how to explain it.
But i miss the late 00's vibe with Gianna Michaels, Tory Lane, Shyla Stylez, Carmella Bing, Juelz Ventura, Nikki Rhodes, Faye Reagan.

Now it s like there is one pretty girl and everyone is on her. I may be strange bit it s like we jumped from a Peta Jensen era to a Gabbie Carter era. And industry is waiting the next cute bombshell.

Of course there is awesome actress today like Anna de ville (but she does her own stuff) or Charlotte Sartre, or more classical, Angela White and Adriana Chechik.

But other awesome actress don t have that spotlight.
Emma Starletto, Nina Skye, Selina Bentz, Mackenzie Mace...

Don t know. It s like one or two actress are at the center each year.

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I think we are in a great era when we have women like Angela White, Abella Danger, Abigail Mac, Lena Paul, Cherie DeVille, and so many more just authentic and just incredible pornstars. If any complaints I have with pornstars today is not with the women but the males. Seemingly everytime I look around there is a male talent who is being accused for doing some horrific thing. Whether its rape, abuse, or being a transphobic or racist. So any time I hear someone say they love "pornstar X scene with male talent Y" the first thing I think about is "that person must not know male talent Y just put on blast pornstar X because she called him out for either being an abuser or supporting an abuser in support of other women telling their story". So to me thats the complaint I have. Outside of that, I think the women pornstars have never been better because there are so many authentic and even relatable women in this industry. Im confident that 5-10 years from now or even longer when alot of these women have fully retired we wont hear many come out and blast the industry saying that they never loved it or that they faked every scene they was in like we hear from girls who came before them.

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I will say it again. It's nearly impossible to compare past performers with todays performers because we aren't comparing apples to apples so much as apple pie to apple strudel. Each contain apples but if you prefer one dessert over the pother than it doesn't mater that each had similar apples in them. It's the final product that is the deciding factor. Past performers will always be hampered by the quantity and type of porn they filmed. I would add that style of shooting will also be a huge factor. Most past sex scenes were short not well lighted and often didn't show a lot of the penetration. None of these things is common in modern porn and that is by far one of the best thing to happen to porn and that's from a guy who loves old time porn.

There was a lot of diversity in past porn performers but since most of them only shot a handful of movies and many of those movies aren't available anymore than it's difficult to compare them to modern performer. Unless you saw them like me then to you they are just a statistic on a website site like IAFD.

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On the flip side...many girls we're very much into today would've had the same sort of popularity if they were entering porn years ago. Riley Reid entering 90s porn has a completely different career if she were new and around back then. A lot of today's extreme performers would've had a totally different career if the entered porn back then because mainstream porn was all about having a certain look and the extreme circus act type porn was very underground. Someone like Ryan Conner had a good career back in the day but she exploded when she came back in the 2000s because she's allowed to be a more extreme performer. Same girl but 2 almost completely different types of career in the same industry.

And of course there are girls who would be far more popular in porn today than they were in their era because they'd be far more accepted. There was a time when a big butt wasn't a selling point. The extreme performers were the freaky girls pushed off to the side for underground porn. The young petite girls weren't really mainstream and were a sub-genre. The bigger curvier girls didn't have the right mainstream look to be in the popular movies. There are a lot of girls from porn's past I often think if I could put them in a time capsule and plop them in today's porn they'd be far more popular and at home.

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Edited by - 2manyDVDs on 8/20/2021 12:27:13 AM

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Analvids have done much damage. For example pre pandemic Anna de Ville scenes with Legal porno are among my favorites, now is a piss drinker.

Many of the most popular pornstar righ now has nearly 30 years: Alexis Crystal, Amirah Adara, Valentina Nappi, Gina Gerson, Abella Danger, Aidra Fox. Right now there are not young girls capable of replacing them. Kate Rich and Anya Krey are sexy but they are not at that level. Lana Rhoades was the last star to appear and now have 25 years.

Edited by - Xorosh on 2/11/2022 7:15:25 AM

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This is the best era of porn and the stars are better than ever. I do have a collection of 80s porn and I enjoy that too. The sex is different, more intimate and I do prefer that sometimes.

Edited by - Alizee on 2/11/2022 11:29:40 AM

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Difference? Back then female poerformers usually knew to keep theirhands busy (e.g. caressing their boobs and tweaking their own nipples DURING....to arch their backs at the right time....how to give a proper BJ (e.g. from base of balls, up shaft, head then deep throat...repeat).... guys came to work wtih "cup fulls" of cum....knew how to grind on their partners, had more moves (guys are no longer jerked off....well very rarely...and when they do TODAY nothing comesout...BACK THEN...the girls hands would be COVERED)....does that mean the female stars THEN knew better how to get the guys to cum MORE??...

And I feel it's not helping the female pornstars "look good" (like htey know anything....let alone be GOOD) when the dirctor is barking comands DURING filming of hte videos. Nevermind that takes the heat out of the scene/video. Or that the sex TODAY is usualy "buffet style" (e.g. one sex position has nothing to do with the next... random)...

Sadly less than a handful of studios TODAY I feel know what they want in filming that video and what they want from the performers. IN this case maybe helping make it appear like ethe stars know what theyre doing (whien they might not ...still..). Bellasa Films Studio. True Taboo. BAM Visions...part of the time...it's as if the prevailing attitud TODAY is to "...just get it done AUick and cheap..." almost as if running a fast-food stall in a mall.

TODAY the stars just do MORE e.g. Adrianna Chechik. (e.g. she gagpes, prolapse, anal, squirts, lesbian, girl/guy....etc.)....she's a "good performer" isn that she does a lot. Does she do t hem well? debateable. But the things she does are "talents"...Back THEN....most stars were very "mainstream porn"....only did vaginal sex...few did anal till the 90's...but htey were usually GOOD, knew wha they were doing no question...and tried to put something of HTEM in their performances..the actors/direcotors woerked better togheter THEN...TODAY eveyr one is just WILLING..

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Today's porn stars are amazing, the 80s, 90s, & 00s pornstars are all awesome too.

What I find interesting is when people compare era's they seem to do it by throwing away the context of the time.

As if you just popped her into a time machine and transported them to as is.

I am deeply nostalgic and revisit past performance from my library all the time.

However there is more choice, talent, niche, access, diversity, better cameras, lighting, tv's to deliver you the pornstar of your dreams. If you disagree you can still live in the past if you look hard enough because it's all on the internet now

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So now we have more posers than performers. I think there's some truth in it. I watch vintage porn as well and the one thing that was better is the sex. More realistic and more passionate.

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Always feet n ass. In that order.

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I think the problem is that there is more porn out there than ever before. Until high speed internet came along I found it hard to keep up with all of the girls and vids. I could only spend so much time and money at the local xxx video store. Now that I see so much more that I've become a bit inured to it. Only the girls who have something which in my opinion is special get my undivided attention. And while I said and meant what I said at the beginning about there being more beautiful girls today doing nastier stuff, it is because of that fact that many scenes have become kind of "cookie cutter". I'll literally watch a really hot chick taking it up the ass and be at best disinterested, at worst, bored.

I think it's a case of having too much of a good thing.

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Let's take blowjobs for example. Go back to &0s or 80s porn and what was often shown as a "good blowjob" was often more sensual and active on the girl's part. Lots of lip and tongue action, visible suction with indented cheeks etc. What's now more often shown as a good blowjob is very different. The girls opens wide and takes as much as she can as hard and fast as she can.

There are fans of both styles, and we all may see one as "better" than the other.

However, it's not generally the girl that's making the decision on which method to use. It's the studio and or director that are deciding. A girl showing up at HUHS or Swallowed isn't being asked how they want to blow the cock, they are being told what is expected of them. A girl today may have the skills and talent to give an icnredibly skilled sensual blowjob, but it's much less likely to get filmed. A girl from the 80s might have been able to take a hard face fuck like a champion, but wasn't often, if ever, asked to.

So what you see is not, in many cases, a question of performer talent or quality changing over the years.

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It's odd that some time after the 90's....certain sex stopped being done e.g. girls started ignoring their boobs....in that they no longer kept t heir hands cupping or squeezing their boobs and pinching their own nipples while being fucked. Or, push their hands against the head-board while being fucked....so their arms/hands dont just lay there "dead". Or even keep the palms on his chest or holding his forearms. Something...

Something I'm not seeing today...where I DID see in older 80's porn is....some pornstars would actually jerk the guy off with her pussy by squeezing his dick with her pussy on the "up stroke". Could also fake tht if the porn chick wanted to....make the scene HOTTER that way too...along with him saying something like "oouuuCH!! DAMN GIRL you are STRONG!!"...implying shes crushing his dick with her pussy....why not/ :)

Things like that ...if pornstars could incorporate into the way they fuck...or have some one coach them/suggest they do that...would make it "look like" they are GOOD if they arent naturallly like Kylie Page, Kissa Sins, Cherry Kiss....etc.

Something else not done today....guys no longer play with boobs. Lick and suck nipples. Boobs are ignored. WHY?? There wither has to be better directors and/or "coaches". Why not have girls who are GOOD coach? Just as mainstream actors have voice coaches, coaches to help guys put on muscle, dance couches...etc. Nothing wrong with having a coach to be better...we know elite athletes all have coaches. right? :)

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It's like most pornstars don't care to develop their skills or show off what they can do better....etc. Like any pro athlete... singer...etc.

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Navigating it is the challenge. I guess it's why sites like this exist.

If you put the top 5% of today's porn against against the top 5% of the 80s you would not only have a lot more porn to watch vs the 80s I guarantee you would pick the 5% of today's porn if you could only watch one era for the rest of you life

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And what's really cheap about it is that she's not even using her real name. Not on the cashapp and not as an artist. It makes me a little angry that they have no morals and take no responsibility for what they do.

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I'd like the porn business to be more professional than that. I love sex and I like seeing a great performance. I only wish the people we watch were representative professionals (within the domain of the work they do) after work is done.

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Any how....just wanted to add...."comparing pornstars of olede (70's, 80's early 90's) to stars of today (or any working today)....I did recently see 2 who could actually "act". Whether or not that was totally THEM or if they were acting....it was very convincing....so good was the "less attractive one" that the camera actually staid on her face only for a few minutes....and she was able to tell us what was going on just by her facial expression and moans...like a mainstream actress would do to simulate sex. e.g. when he entered her, when he was deeper....etc. The other was similar and also kept her hands/ams moving..."Aline"? Looks like Olivia Wilde..

There ARE girls today that CAN "act" but never got the attention they deserv ed to make them "pornstars". They never got their breaks. And these two girls took their time. Never gave you the impression they were eager to be somewhere else SOON. Like 96% of the girls we see today. Even most big name stars. It's like most arent concerned with working on the "art of sex on film (video)" (different from sex in their our private lives...or usually is). Most are just WILLING TO DO...

As I said....performers from the 70's to the early 90s...really did try to work on their craft. Guys made sure they came to work with huge loads (e.g. everytime they were jerked off they came right then with so much cum the girl's hands were literally covered....THICK...today? Nothing happens...you just hear the sound of the lube under her hands...heh...making "jerking the guy off" pointless....just as pointless as for the chick to say "I'm cummminnNGG!!"....when the camera zooms in on her pussy only for no flow to spil out...DRY!1 99% of the time...Why bnot fake it??? Easy to fake GIRL CUM for obvious reasons...but no one but BAM Visions has done it (some of their videos...oddlly not all of them)...they (Mike Blue) inserts a tube into her pussy and pumps in some "spunk"...I assume white lube...he puls out...they continue filming...she squeezes out some gOO...fake girl cum...does the job! :) They dont do it becaue most are lazy and are in a hurry to be some place else.

Most of the time I think they're just lazy....every porn set has lube...could easly put some ion the finger tips of whoever is "fingering her" or trying to make her squirt. We cant see it. We would assume it's GIRL CUM. Other times I think they just dont consider faking GIRL CUM--why? Because some girls are wiling to stuff vegetables in their pussies....made the effort....some will stuff chucks of butter....so why not lube to fake girl cum?? Would it not make the scene that much hotter? Plus having he guy use a tube and a pump (hidden from the camera view)? Easy to make the device...super cheap...most just dont go to the trouble...

Most simply aren't putting any real effort into their acting or going to work with big load...to go to work PREPARED like the guys from the 80s...Do porn dudes today "work too much"....I dont think so beccause it's not like you see them in one video with more of a load...do they jerk-off before filming??? Why are the guys today "empty"? :) If it means "coaching" make it so...

Love to see more companies try to up the quality of porn today. We have tons of beatiful girls and women. Most are wiling to do lots of stuff (girl/guy vag, anal, squirt, toys, gape, prolapse,....some use medical cameras to give us an INSIDE view of a vagina or butthole....there's golden showers....etc. They just DO but aren't working on the ART of SEX ON FILM....96T of the time...

jOnce in a long while you come across examples where they DO make extr efforts...eg. Fantasy HD....Christianna Cinn and some dude....they made CC squirt and when they did they SLO-MO'd the video and added reverb to her LOUD screams....people should have seen that and learned!1 Do more of that VS making the mistake of waving the hand in front of her pussy or fucking her pussy and covering the squirt....maing the effort pointless...You hear her wetness...see nothing...heh..

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With today's universally accessible costs for production and distribution and free access to social media for promotion there is obviously exponentially more content.

Complaining about tube sites and cam girls as a means to suggest that the stars of yesteryear are more talented is like saying the quality of today movie stars can't touch the Sean Connerys and Marlon Brandos buy picking on how bad today's YouTube stars are.

Let's try picking on Angela White, Adriana Chechik or content from Deeper.com , EvilAngel or JulesJordan.com and see if you can make the argument hold up.

The very top of the industry is more professional than ever.

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So I absolutely think the demands/tastes of the fans dictate the type of girls and the performances they give. There big names girls from the past who would be totally overlooked today because they were a different type of pornstar with a different performance style. And there are girls today who are big names who would be ignored in the past because the don't have the right look and really aren't sensual performers.

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And all those scene with focus on penetration and stuffing girls holes with many dicks as there is space for are rly anyone to watch...

To me it doesn't look good for any side ...it looks uncomfortable for everyone ..

I love anal and everything about anal but ffs just shoot normal one on one with hot girl nake out with her .,lick her .. explore each other body's ... that's whats started slowly disappearing in today's porn

Only thing I'm not sure is what dictates type of girls we have in porn. U think level of talent did go down significant...if we compare porn 10 years ago ... Girls where better performers more sluty more creative more open ...funny but yeah

Now why is that? I think cause girls today have so much more options to do solo stuff and make Thier own business than going into mainstream porn ..so i think there is so many great filthy girls who never saw studio cameras but insted did webcam or onlyfans

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Being "sexy" is harder to do than most people kow. Today performers are robotic. The sex is "buffet style"--meaning they just do a group of positions one after the other. There's no connection between them. Like food on a plate. You grab food randomly. Foods that wouldn't be served together normally at a restaurant. Which also makes the sex "unsexy". Most performers just dont care. Or looks that way. It's as if they're all eager to be some place else. In a hurry to get it done, get paid and GO.

Like ordering food at a fast food stall in a mall....or serving it....people dont care that much about the quality. Just to hurry and guy it or make it. Sell it to the next customer they might never see again. Usually has no relationship with....not on a first name basis...etc. As might be the case at a restaurant you go to a lot.

But again....I'm generalizing....as I mentioned SI did come across 2 women that WERE GOOD...how one girl had her facial expresions down. That the director or camera guy KENW she was like that so he kept the camera only on her face....longer than usual. Becasue he knew she could be "hot" without needing to jump up and down....

Other reasons why I think MOST performers dont know what they're doing or arent GOOD--besides just not having their hearts in it....MOVES for example...many think today "twerking" is "sexy". I dont think it is. A girl or woman chaking her ass fast. Vs slow rhythmic swiinging of the hips iwth a dip in the middle? I prefer slow/rhythmic...and that's the other thing....

Ironic to me. That most people working in the XXX biz do NOT know what "sexy" is.....today. ...they just DO IT!! Leave.... e.g. music played with no emotion or soul. (e.g. like a kid who HAS TO play practice piano because he has to....becasue his mom said so....VS someone who plays for the LOVE of it)...

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Kelsi Monroe--She thinks twerking, jumping up/down making her ass checks make CLAPPING sounds is sexy. And doing the splits. Ummm...??? I don't think she knows what "sexy/HOT" is. most pornstars are like her today.

Most are like her. No idea of "sexy" or "HOW to..." or care to learn....it's like they all have no desire to be GOOD AT IT..ut DO IT.

Since most don't know or dont care how...odd there are no "sex coaches". To give the a quick run through of HOW before filming. Like mainstream actors would do before a scene. I mean, when they cast dont they "auditin" them??? How is it even then they dont see the person wanting to do porn has no skills??? I

"....Has no idea how to do a BJ--OK. Spreads ass cheeks like for her doctor--OK. Can't cream--ok. Cant get wet on cue--OK. Guy only has 2 drops when he shots his "load"--OK....HIRED!! ;)) As long as the peple will get naked and DO.

The good old days of porn.--women who knew how to jerk guys off and when guys would immediately cum a cup full covering her hands...

Funny thing was....pornstars back THEN...didn't do much. Just girl/guy, vaginal and anal (90's). No porn chicks gaped or prolapese. None squirted or creamed. No ATM. Could THIS be why they were so much better??? Because they had to work on the ART...the craft....technique...TOADY we have girls like Adriana Chechik--5'3, nice body....does anal, gapes big, prolapses, squirts....sounds okay when she moans/screams.

Lena Paul- does girl/gil/ girl/guy, vag sex, anal and even fisted her own ass...rare for a minstream performer. Fisting was usually only done by the Germans ...they have to do MORE today. Because most lack skills/technique....

Lean Paul is a sexy person but doesn't look like she knows how to DO SEXY...she just does stuff...Looks good doing it. SOunds good.

They neex "coaching" and the director or guy behind the camera needs to be told "What is sexy?" Till then we hve robotic XXX 98 percent of the time...no heat..

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I'm not fan of twerking by any means but i heard from some of my friends how they talk about twerking so i know people like different things ...it's same like with favorite pornstars....we all have different ones and see things different. So I'm saying i don't think girls are worse today by any means but like i said a lot of girls that would end up in porn (before Internet) today start their own business through onlyfans,,many vids,webcam or however they want ...so many possibilities today.

So that means the number of girls who enter industry is a lot less then pree internet explosion... That's why we see same girls on every site pretty much today ...and with that saying it's normal that is harder to find quality porn and performer but there are always girls who are doin great work and few hidden gems here and there ..peace

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--why don't they do it Hollywood style?? The effect would be so much better than seeing the guy obviously trying not to hurt the girl. Instead, he could take a swing, stop within an inch of her face, she jerks her head to one side as if he made contact and he slaps his bare leg for the sound FX. So much better. WHACK!!! vs "whack". then have her squeeze white-ish lube out of her pussy to make it look like she was so turned on she came....ummm...after 2 or 3 slaps.

Same for spankings...could even at one point have him put his palm in dark ping paint powder...then make a hand print on her butt or (face) cheek...As if he slapped or spanked her that hard...and again...NOT ACTUALLY TOUCHING HER!! :) Safer for her. I'm sure she would prefer that than risk injury.

Again...I think in most cases this isnt done because most companies doing the videos are too lazy to make the effort. So much easier to just "lightly slap her face"...take the risk.

There's so many cheap effects that could be used to make a scene "more real". Just need to MAKE AN EFFORT. Think "...like Hollywood" :)

e.g. Staci Carr perched on a window ledge...legs spread apart...starts fingering herself...we can hear her wetness...HERE camera is paused--she scoops a little white lube and puts her hand in front of her pussy...CAMERA STARTS REC again...she slips in her hand...white lube begins pouring out as she says I"m CUMMMING!! :) Do this every time before any performer says I"M CUMMMING!! :) How much better would the scene be if we actually saw half a cup of white lube be squeezed out...as she fakes orgasm, or each time he goes deep into her ass...a little every thurst IN. Or save it all for the end...squeeze our half a cup full and a slight body tremor. :)

Then put some on the window ledge or bedsheet...to say she came MORE...made a mess...messy is good! :)

Funny how we see videos where she says "...you painted my face!" yet there's not a drop anywhere LOL! Or she says I'M CUMMMING!!! and the camera zooms in on her pussy....DRY!! What was the point???? :P They NEED to make the effort!11 Mick Blue did in the odd video for Bam Visions...

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While many of you will disagree, I'd argue that many of today's girls are more into the sex in general girls from the early 2000s and earlier. Of course there are exceptions but in my opinion a lot of the contract girls of years ago seemed to see sex scenes as a job they needed to do and probably wasn't that into it vs girls in general today.

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He had technique e.g. starting by kissing JG's body and then on the mouth. Knew how to take charge e.g. undressing JG and how to move her around without being rough or clumsy. Things not done in 95% of porn today. As a matter a fact I don't think I can name too many other guys that know HOW....Kissa Sinn's husband Johnathan? And some amateurs I don't know the stage names of...

Guys like Owen Grey should start coaching. Just as some girls should start coaching. Why not? No shame in taking advice from someone better...in any art, sport...only way to improve, keep imporoving...

But again....if only they had JG fake "girl cum"...something oddly missing in porn today and in the past. WHY NOT?? Anything to elevate the quality of porn. It's cheap and it's already there! e.g. using lube to fake girl gum. How hot would it be to have her squeeze a little out everytime she moaned after she said "I'm cummming!!"... or when being fucked in the ass....instead of what's going on now. Girls saying their cumming, camera zooms in and nothing flows out. Not even a quivering of the hips...1 % do it..heh...little things...

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