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JonECage
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Posted - Apr 8 2021 : 6:41PM
It is really interestinghow different the bukkake market is in the US vs everywhere else. Just in europe theres prembuk amateurfacialsuk ggg spermastudio etc. Youd think thered be a bukkake company in vegas or LA. The closest is texasbukkake, but they mostly get amateur girls from the texas area (and given the recent trinity st clair scene i doubt that will change).

I think part of the issue is money-im sure it would cost tens of thousands of dollars just to pay established american performers to do the scenes on top of all the other production costs. But i also think female american performers are just way more limited in the kinds of scenes they want to do.

massive facials
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Posted - Apr 9 2021 : 4:25PM
^ Yeah you're right about TexasBukkake being the closest thing we probably have to it, and you're spot on, the Trinity St Clair scene seems like it was an absolute disaster.

I think your points are pretty spot on but I think it may also depend on exactly how you tried to build it. If you wanted PremiumBukkake, Spermmania, Milky-Cat, etc... types of blowbangs focused on facials, it would probably be a real struggle to find enough girls, in todays day and age to do scenes like that with upwards of 20, 30, 40+ guys. However, I think if it were constructed more like CoverMyFace was, or even when Peter North had a run of doing 2-4 guy "blowbang" (hard to call it a blowbang with that number of guys but those guys were heavy hitters), I think that's a way more realistic proposition. I feel like something like that would do very well because A, there is definitely the dedicated fanbase out here looking for it, and B, a lot, and I mean a lot of girls new-ish, and not so new, to the industry have been clamoring to do blowbangs. So I think there is the right combination out there somewhere, right now it just seems like a completely untapped market.

JonECage
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Posted - Apr 10 2021 : 6:25PM
'However, I think if it were constructed more like CoverMyFace was, or even when Peter North had a run of doing 2-4 guy "blowbang" (hard to call it a blowbang with that number of guys but those guys were heavy hitters), I think that's a way more realistic proposition. I feel like something like that would do very well because A, there is definitely the dedicated fanbase out here looking for it, and B, a lot, and I mean a lot of girls new-ish, and not so new, to the industry have been clamoring to do blowbangs. So I think there is the right combination out there somewhere, right now it just seems like a completely untapped market.'

Whats weird is blowbanggirls has been doing this for a while but theyve never been able to get top level talent. Idk if its something abt facials specifically (gloryholeswallows is set up very similarly but get all sorts of upper level fem performers) that turns girls away-but even if american girls are avail for blowbangs it seems very few ever actually do them.

Honestly i do think it comes down to money- brandon iron (rip) mentioned on here years ago that he dropped a ton of money on cmf shoots including 50k on one scene (which ive always assumed was the legendary amy reid sascha knox bakers dozen scene). and that was over 10 years ago. Id really love to know how much spermmania paid for kristen scotts bukkake scenes-that seems like the closest equivalent recently

massive facials
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Posted - Apr 11 2021 : 10:57AM
^ Yeah, BlowBangGirls has been around a while, the way they shoot their scenes is a little odd to me. It is a blowbang but its basically 1 at a time blowjobs to each guy. So while they have the guys give facials, the facials are separated over like 10 minutes and it is something that doesn't garner tons of interest, from me anyways.

It's an interesting point about facials. For some girls, for sure facials would be a point of contention, however there are a lot of girls who talk about A, how much they want a blowbang. And B, how much they love cum on their face. It can't all be play acting on their part when they talk like that; I really just don't know that there's anyone out there that does it. As mentioned above, the way BlowBangGirls shoots is completely different than how a Facialized scene is, or from an IRBlowbang from DogFart. Those scenes are shot where you have all the guys at once and they all finish at once (give or take, especially with IRBlowbang lol), but with BlowBangGirls, while the length of the scene may be similar, it is shot completely differently and that may put some girls off? Just speculating here.

There is definitely a money factor too. The famous Brandon Iron (RIP) scene has to have been the Sasha Knox and Amy Reid scene, while expensive I'd say it was definitely worth the money lol. And I think the money is a huge factor...for certain girls! While I don't think any particular scene is cheap or anything like that, not all girls are demanding 50k. I'd be interested to know the Spermmania-Kristen Scott connection too. It was awesome to see her scenes for Spermmania, and with the lack of American Studios offering that kind of content it'd be awesome to see Spermmania get more American girls. I wonder if that was strictly money or there is more to it. If it wasn't just money it definitely reinforces that there are girls out there who want to do these kinds of scenes, there just isn't enough of the opportunity state-side.

 
Videofan
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Posted - Apr 11 2021 : 1:24PM
Videofan
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Posted - Apr 11 2021 : 1:46PM
Many of the loads in recent scenes are weak, you are right about that. But you have to realise we are in the middle of a world pandemic. It's not as easy to arrange scenes with 50+ guys as before. Torbes studio in Madrid (where most of the scenes on PB have been filmed) have been raided by the police once because someone reported (unjustified as Torbe claims) them for not following the corona rules. And a lot of guys may not be comfortable being in a room with a lot of people exchanging body fluids right now. That's why we get these bukkakes with a smaller group of guys cumming several times instead.

In these corona times we have to be grateful PB manage to produce any scenes at all, especially as many of the recent girls (as Noe White, Ohana Petite, Roma Amor, Rebeka Brown, Camila Palmer, Marina Gold, Venom, Bella Rico) have performed great under the circumstances, at least in my opinion...

If you want the really big loads, go back to the earlier scenes on the site (many of the early scenes are the best on the site anyways).

Edited by - Videofan on 4/11/2021 1:53:39 PM

rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 11 2021 : 2:25PM
What happened in the scene that made it a disaster?
Videofan
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Posted - Apr 11 2021 : 2:42PM
From the beginning the main focus and unique usp of the site has been multiple mouthfuls of cum swallowed. The name PremiumBukkake is a bit unfortunate, because most people associate "bukkake" with facials.

The background to the name is that PB basically is like a big budget version of the Putalocura "bukkakes", with prettier girls, more guys, more cum. The Putalocura "bukkakes" where all about swallowing (gokkun), but Torbe has always used the broader term "Bukkakes". All the original scenes when PB was launched, and most of the following scenes up to present times, where shot by Torbe in his Putalocura studio.

So, despite the name, Premiumbukkake has always been primarily focused on swallowing, and have never claimed to be a site dedicated to facials as much as swallowing, although some scenes have great facials too. From the beginning there where several scenes without any facials at all. Lately most scenes has some facials included.

Swallowing is a small niche in porn, but that's the whole point of the site, to deliver unique content not found anywhere else to a small but dedicated group of people. If you like facials, or gloryhole, there is stuff for you too, but the focus of the site is still swallowing.

For me, I'm not against facials at all, but the whole reason I'm on PB is the swallowing, nothing else. I would never join a site with only facials.

Edited by - Videofan on 4/11/2021 2:55:28 PM

JonECage
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Posted - Apr 11 2021 : 6:28PM
the video description on texasbukkakes manyvids site has an explanation, i dont want to put words in anyones mouth
rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 11 2021 : 8:43PM
^ Thanks.
ao606
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Posted - Apr 11 2021 : 9:54PM
Well, noone is suggesting getting rid of the gokkun stuff for bukkakes (well I have in the past, but let's consider that water under the bridge). We're simply suggesting that there is a market to be capitalized on if they opened a separate site focused on facials.
Videofan
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Posted - Apr 12 2021 : 12:55PM
Yeah, I get that, I realise my post came out a bit more one-sided than I had intended... And I agree with the "if you try to please everyone you will please no one" line of thought...
massive facials
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Posted - Apr 12 2021 : 4:08PM
It was mentioned above but here is the description of the scene: "On the first day we did a very nice casting with Trinity! The next day it didn't go as well .... Our boys were really looking forward to the arrival of Trinity. She started very well, was nice and gave everyone attention. But the moment we really started with the gangbang, she changed completely. She didn't really want to break free. That's a shame, especially since Texas Bukkake is a small website. If you, as a model, ask a high amount for a Bukkake then you just have to do your best. Otherwise, just stay at home!"

I watched the scene, as I was a member of the site when it came out, and it was as though she wasn't in a bukkake. There were a handful of guys (don't remember the exact number), but there wasn't a facial finish, there wasn't swallowing. Just on the whole it was not what you'd expect from one of their scenes, and clearly not what they were expecting to come out of the scene. Basically, she knew what she was signing up for and didn't deliver in the slightest. Hope that answers some of the questions about it, can provide more detail if needed.

JonECage
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Posted - Apr 13 2021 : 12:50PM
Id be interested to know if bukkakes have a higher rate of failure than other types of scenes (even gangbangs) I know TxBuk has said they had an issue w/ female performers dropping out, i know Mason has said coordinating booking for Facialized has been a huge problem (theres been long gaps in between scenes, which i assumed was money issues and i believe she posted in reply something like 'i wish it was just money'), and even bringing up bakers dozen again i know Brandon said they booked vanessa lane and another girl for one scene and Vanessa 'went to the bathroom' and just left the shoot w/o telling anyone.
 
massive facials
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Posted - Apr 13 2021 : 2:42PM
^ I think that certainly makes things considerably more difficult. Have to kind of break them down into 3 different categories based on what you mentioned, and my thoughts:

TexasBukkake is a really tough one because its more of an amateur production. So they're, generally, finding more amateur girls which I think can sometimes be a tough sell on a bukkake. I think they're also not dealing directly with agencies or off of established relationships sometimes and then they get what they think will be a good fit and they get some flakes on them. I think it has happened a decent amount to them, although not sure it has happened too much lately.

As for Facialized I think for them it is kind of a combination. This is more pure speculation, but I think Mason really tries to get who the fans most want and request. Whether it be from requests on the XEmpire site or in her forum here on ADT, and I think that can sometimes work to her detriment in how popular some of the most requested girls are, can add to the challenge of booking them. I also think Mason also holds a certain standard to her Facialized scenes, and again this is my own personal belief with nothing other than speculation to back it up, but I think in some of the scenes from the past few Facialized iterations she's been pretty disappointed with some of the guys. So booking enough guys for the scenes is a struggle, and booking guys she trusts and think will deliver for what she wants has not been easy. So unfortunately it is kind of a double edged sword on that front. Although I think her locking in a 'crew' of 5-8 guys she trusts to deliver and be available to her when needed will help out greatly in solidifying it all again, that way if it is to be a 9 or 10 guy scene she'd only need to find 2-3 guys because she'd have the 5/6-8 she has on the ready, ready to deliver.

As for Brandon (RIP) and Bakers Dozen I think it was a different era, and he was willing to pay for the girls he, and the fans wanted most. Sometimes these girls bit off more than they could chew. Some of them went through with the scenes anyways, and clearly didn't love it. And others, unfortunately, bailed before they could even do the scene. He mentioned multiple times about some scenes being "immediate replacement" where some girls were called and asked last minute. It is a shame, but there he had far more successes than failures so that's a positive.

rickybomb10
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Posted - Apr 14 2021 : 1:58AM
Ideally I wish they'd shoot a big creampie now and again. Similar concept and could even incorporate swallows. Shoot into a speculum or whatever. It'd be hot.
thebestloadever
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Posted - Apr 14 2021 : 4:27PM
Hopefully they can shoot with Shaiden Rogue soon.
Videofan
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Posted - Apr 15 2021 : 6:57AM
captainxx-2008
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Posted - Apr 16 2021 : 6:54AM
that should be feasible, as Torbe - who manages PB - do that with spanish gilrs in his Creampie Bukkake scenes on Putalocura :)
Videofan
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Posted - Apr 16 2021 : 7:43AM
Torbe do absolutely not manage PB. He shoot and deliver scenes to them. It's the owner of PB that decide what kind of scenes he want.

Edited by - videofan on 4/16/2021 7:47:02 AM

Videofan
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Posted - Apr 16 2021 : 7:45AM
Double post

Edited by - videofan on 4/16/2021 7:45:41 AM

ConstructiveCrit
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Posted - Apr 17 2021 : 12:32AM
Just wanted to add my thumbs up to the site.

Joined as a diamond member and am sorting through the scenes that are what I'm after.

Certainly plenty of enthusiastic cum swallowers, but plenty of girls that have really trouble swallowing 10-20 cumshots at a time, which I really like.

Also appreciate the 2 camera angles and best of, so that I can download the best of, scan through it and if there is a good gagging moment I can easily download the other camera angle not used in the best of.

Really great site.

captainxx-2008
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Posted - Apr 17 2021 : 12:33AM
all righty, my bad :D so, forget the idea of creampie gangbangs so... farewell little angel, you were taken from us far too soon ^^
ConstructiveCrit
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Posted - Apr 21 2021 : 4:24AM
Just wanted to add that watching Ginebra Belucci gagging and coughing up cum was one of the best things I've ever seen in porn, thank you to her and all others involved in making it happen.
 
Videofan
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Posted - Apr 21 2021 : 12:48PM
itto51
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Posted - Apr 21 2021 : 2:49PM
I think PB is making fun of his clients. Since years there is a poll named "who is next" where the subscribers are asked to vote for the girl they wanna see next week. PB never, in 5 years, choosed a girl according to the poll's results. Jessy Jey's puntuacion in the poll is 0, and also Adelle's is 0. The Asia's one is 1%. Nobody wanted them back, the most voted are Bella Rico and Leidy de Leon, after them Ohana and Rebeka.But clearly PB don't mind. And another thing : i don't want to return on the old discussion yes facials/no facials, but between the 100 scenes best voted in PB history, 95 have facials. It means something, i think. Last scenes are terribly boring and monotones, no variety at all, practically the girls don't even suck , 35 minutes of shoot and 33 and half with the girl swallowing as a machine. I miss a lot the old scenes in Torbe's style, as Linda 3, Monro 2, Angela 1 and 2, Katy, Lola 3, Elya 3,4,5, these shoots where amazing, exciting, rich of variety and sexappeal. Now everything is made in the same way, after the end of Paris team we had 25 shoots which are all the same (the only exception is Rebeka's gangbang). What a boredom. We lost also the bowl, which was the real climax of every scene. Personally i always found very exciting the moment when the whore of the week was requested to drink a bowl full of cum. The scenes of Monro or Linda swallowing an entire bowl full of spunk after spitting in all the loads where epic. But anyway the bowl was a great thrill. I miss it a lot.
I'm a PB subscriber since the first shoot, but i'm very annoyed with this new era. Only supersluts like Bella, Rebeka or Roma could save their scenes and make it great. But now Torbe's girls ahve been abandoned and are back the LP silicon sluts. Whay a pity.
Videofan
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Posted - Apr 30 2021 : 7:48AM
Videofan
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Posted - Apr 30 2021 : 8:06AM
I think most members realise that poll means nothing. Not only because PB can't be expected to get any of those girls just because they happen have the most votes, but also because the number of votes mean nothing. PB reset all the results to 0 regularily, and the platform is poorly encoded so anyone can vote unlimited times for one girl simply by changing your IP-adress, which is why the results are so uneven...
josh31
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Posted - Apr 30 2021 : 2:40PM
Crazy site. But i really wish they would use more US stars. (Iknow pandemic)
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Videofan
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josh31
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Posted - May 14 2021 : 2:42AM
What a debut 😁
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thebestloadever
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Posted - May 20 2021 : 5:01PM
yummy yummy
 
Videofan
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josh31
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Some Good updates lately
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Videofan
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Kasiall
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Posted - Jun 19 2021 : 4:45AM
I have to say, I've really enjoyed the last six months or so of Premium Bukkake shoots. As we know, we Bukkake fans generally fall into two broad camps: those who prefer to watch beautiful women swallow load after load vs those who love to see the women's faces just slathered in load after load of thick, white, creamy jizz. Count me in this latter camp for sure. Although my strong preference would be to watch a high-definition video of 100 men jerking off onto Rebeka Brown's face (my current PB favorite), Bukkake is enough of a niche where I think PB is doing something right by catering to both camps. If you watch PB's first two years of videos, there are a lot of swallowing-only scenes. But over the the last two years, many scenes follow a similar structure: the woman swallows how ever many loads, then she takes 10 or 15 loads to her face, then she swallow as a few last loads while cum still drips down her face. It's really hot stuff. For you facial lovers, here are my favorite cumsluts over the past six months or so, ranked generally in order:

Rebekah Brown, Bukkake #2 - Gorgeous brown eyed Spaniard. Major points for her attitude, playfulness, smiles and eye contact as she gets covered in jizz.

Silvia Dellai, Bukkake #1 - Gorgeous green eyed dirty blonde. I didn't realize she was such a Legal Porno anal slut. I'm going to have to re-up my membership there.

Sabrina Ice, Bukkake #1 - bonus points for her hot green eyes and some nice eye contact with the camera at times when taking loads

Roma Amore - Roma, from Valparaiso, Chile, in my opinion is the most ridiculously gorgeous of a lot of recent beautiful women on PB. She's young, and isn't that enthusiastic about getting her face covered. I have her ranked this high just because oh how beautiful she is.

Jessy Jey, Bukkake #1 - major points for a couple of thick strings of jizz that just hung from her chin as she continued to get plastered

Sherezade Lapeidra, Bukkake #1 - Another stunningly beautiful woman.

Adelle Sabelle, Bukkake #1 - This green-eyed brunette is absolutely gorgeous. She only took 9 loads to her face, but they were nice. I can't tell you how much I'd love to see her covered with 50 or more loads.

Camila Palmer - another young, beautiful brown eyed brunette. Major points for attitude, smiles and eye contact

Isabel Dark, Bukkake #1 - Although I prefer a cumslut to be looking at the camera as men jerk off onto her face, she gets credit for consistently looking at the men who are cumming all over her.

Lady Leon, Bukkake #1 - If you like an across the nose shot, Lady takes a nice one.

Bella Rico, BBukkake #1 - While 90% of the scenes the past 6 months are of incredibly hot brunettes, Bella is a dirty blonde with gorgeous big brown eyes. Major points for the eye contact and smiles she gives as men jerk off onto her face.

Tiny Tina, PB1 - Kept her eyes closed, but I couldn't blame her, as they were plastered shut.

Julia de Lucia, Bukkake #1

Marina Gold, Bukkake #2

Francesca Palma - Bukkake #1

Melania Dark, Bukkake #1

Barbie Esm, Bukkake #1

Venom, Bukkake#1 - great attitude, but loads we're relatively weak

Asia Vargas, Bukkake #1 - negative points as she didn't seem to enjoy it. But the contrast of a lot of thick white jizz on her face against her

Vicky Love, Bukkake #4 - A PB swallowing queen, she just didn't seem to enjoy getting her face covered. But damn, she looked good.

Ohana Petite, Bukkake #3 - negative points as she had her eyes closed

Asia Vargas, Bukkake #2 - negative points due to the fact that she had her eyes closed and she really didn't seem to enjoy it.

Macarena Lewis, Bukkake #1


Videofan
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TopStoryToday
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Posted - Jul 3 2021 : 8:39PM
Sherry Vine BTS was amazing.
Videofan
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Posted - Jul 4 2021 : 6:14AM
There's a lot of great stuff in the back catalogue, I'm almost jealous of new members having all of that to see for the first time. Sherry has 6 bts scenes by the way, which one are you refering to?
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Doobie69
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Posted - Jul 12 2021 : 6:01PM
As a perfect example of my previous comment, I recently subscribed to the website and suggested that they find a way to shoot more scenes with more facials, less swallowing and hotter models. I was immediately shot down by hardcore gokkun fans who claim that there are tons of sites that already do facials (where?) and only care about girls monotonously swallowing hundreds and hundreds of loads.

I feel like they are sacrificing huge potential in the service of a few very vocal members. Hence my original suggestion, they should have a site that features hot models taking lots of facials ("bukkake") and one that gives them all the swallowing they want ("gokkun").

Just my $.02.

Edited by - Doobie69 on 7/12/2021 6:01:35 PM

rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 12 2021 : 6:24PM
^ I'll see your $.02 and raise you $.02.

I share your opinion. I have been a member at PB several times but not in about three years. I like the Gokkun content but I would like to see it alternated with some Bukkake too. I've never bothered to comment on the site and it now sounds like I'd be wasting my time.

I also share your question as to what these other sites are that feature facials / bukkake. I consider myself a savvy porn subscriber and I'd love to know what these sites are that I'm missing.

siyd
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Posted - Jul 12 2021 : 8:05PM
Pretty much the same reason why I unsubbed. I'd rather see more blowbang action than the same routine of 10-15 guys jerking off before the performer swallows. I know in some scenes they do a facial at the end instead of swallowing, but I'd rather have see the a girl take 50+ facials, coming from a site named premiumbukkake.
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