Yeah, totally! The general vibe is really important. Also the scenes, like many pointed already out are monotonous and the same. There is little to no variability through the years. You can see that by the same performances, movements and commands. Model is getting her mouth filled, the guy gives her permission to swallow, she swallows (which is the most important part) very non-memorable by looking down and then up, having her mouth either opened a little or just closed. I mean, the Japanese and Americans got it right. Alone the word "gokkun" means the swallow noise which encompasses the whole swallow act. When the model is looking into camera playing with cum, not just a few tongue moves: - she swishes cum around in the mouth; - pushes it in front of lips; - between teeth; - even gargles it(I don't know why they don't allow this move); - for the humorous purpose I remember some swallowing sluts even talking a little with a mouthful; - and then the model swallows the cum by looking into the camera, so you can see all the tiny expressions in face (the surprise, the disgust, maybe even the enjoyment); - and after swallow model opens mouth wide and sticks tongue out and holds it a few seconds, so you can see the beautiful tongue and throat, - after that, model can make a couple more swallows, so every bit of cum in mouth and around the mouth, by licking it off, is gone.
Now, I clearly don't understand the poorness of this final most important act, but I utterly fail to comprehend why they avoid showing off the tongue so much. At least the models could show tongue more often after the cum swallowing act. Tongue is one of the main erotic and sexual parts of female mouth and they don't want to give it even a little credit. Some models are very talented with tongue moves and they can have it stick out when guys cum into their mouths, some can even swallow cum with open mouth having their tongue stick out. I really liked some models swallowing cum with open mouth, but there is also too little of this here lately. Along with the tongue sticking out of the mouth, one could also see the throat, which is also a sexy important oral feature.
Besides this debacle of the main act of swallowing cum, models could also swallow several times in a row 1-3 loads max, then there would be more emotion and ironically cum swallowing (gokkun). Well, I guess I am still rooted in the old school of cum swallowing american movies, where there were true pervs at work on the camera set of Brandon Iron, Jules Jordan, Peter North, etc. Maybe this is what PremiumBukkake needs, more pervs pulling the strings, or even better more of those crazy american pervs. I think if you really are passionate about something, you put a lot of thought to it, a lot of your personal taste and perversion in this case. Torbe had it in the beginning, then something changed, or even better, nothing changed. I am not so sure what happened along the way, maybe he isn't around the set so much anymore, because this guy commanding the models is clearly a moronic robot with no imaginative skill set whatsoever...
Torbe has not been involved in shooting for PB for about two years.
One of the things that changed even before that was that Torbes main cameraman that they also used for the original PB scenes left, and nothing has been the same after that. You can see that in the scenes Torbe shoot for PL these days too, not even close the the oder scenes.
For those who say that Premium Bukkake is a swallow site and not a facial site, I will always argue that it is both, and I offer the following as evidence:
Silvia Dellai:
Valeria Valois:
Megan Nicole:
Sherezade LaPiedra:
Blaze:
Pris Angel:
I could go on.there's a lot more. My primary fetish in porn is a face covered in many loads of cum, and I find PB satisfying in that regard. Would I love a pure facial Bukkake? Very much so, yes. But I like to think that no matter how many "issues" PB might have, it does in fact provide content that should make both the swallow fan and the facial fan happy.
The website isn't that clear about that. There are different subscription levels, and I can confirm that - at least for me - at the "Diamond" level I get unlimited downloads.
Apparently there was a fall out beween Mario and Torbe at the time when Torbe was arrested back in 2016. As far as I know Torbe felt betrayed by Mario in some way. I don't know where Mario went.
Probably a controversial choice as Charlotte Angie was murdered not long ago, RIP. After her her death PB removed her #1 bukkake from the site, and now they publish her second scene anyway, which seems a bit contradictory, to say the least...
Esadicen posted in her Twitter account some photos of her in black bikini near the white sofa appearing in Putalocura and Studio PL productions. Does anybody know for which company did she shoot a scene ?
[/quote] Well, I guess I am still rooted in the old school of cum swallowing american movies, where there were true pervs at work on the camera set of Brandon Iron, Jules Jordan, Peter North, etc. Maybe this is what PremiumBukkake needs, more pervs pulling the strings, or even better more of those crazy american pervs. I think if you really are passionate about something, you put a lot of thought to it, a lot of your personal taste and perversion in this case. Torbe had it in the beginning, then something changed, or even better, nothing changed. I am not so sure what happened along the way, maybe he isn't around the set so much anymore, because this guy commanding the models is clearly a moronic robot with no imaginative skill set whatsoever...
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I agree. In the beginning, when Torbe was at the command, and also in the Paris shoots, everything was tough for the girls, there was a perverted desire to treat them as the sluts they were and to push them to the limit, sometimes breaking them (Nona, Elya 4, Linda 3, Lady Gang, Barbie Esm 2, Nicole Love 2, Freya Dee, in example) . Since Torbe left and Pascal was closed in jail all the scenes became more soft, it seems that now the intention is to make the scene less hard to shoot and to stop before the girl reach her limit. Naturally, this makes more easy to find young whores willing to be turned in cumdumpsters, and for sure we had many beautiful girls on stage this year ( Pris, Prim, Targaryen, Esadicen, Kitty Love, Miss Melissa...) but at last all the scenes are turning monotones , without that twisted and perverted atmosphere of the golden era; maybe it could be useful let the girls act freely and naturally, but Pb seems to love that robotic direction....
Yes, as @itto51 already has mentioned Alexandra Targaryen is back in her #3 scene for PB. This time with Esa Dicen as assistant. It say 187 loads on the site, but that seems to be a typo, as the scene has 87 loads.
I know she has shot a Pillada for Putalocura. But I think it's very possible she has shot more scenes for PL, as well as for PB. Don't know if she has shot for Studio PL productions.
Usually the pilladas scenes are shooted in a small bedroom, the white sofa studio is normally used by Torbe for bukkake, creampie, gangbang scenes. Is also used by StudioPL for his shoots (anal, DP, gokkun, wet). Wait and see....
Yes I know, I only mentioned the pillada because that's the only scene for PL I know is confirmed, I'm not saying it was shot in the white sofa studio. So she probably did a bigger scene for PL and/or Studio PL in the white sofa studio...
Thank you. That helps since their website isn't that intuitive for finding that information. It currently only shows the Black Friday "True Diamond" at 50% off and the Silver. I don't stream. I like to download then line things up from my Stash server. I'll probably take advantage of the sale to check it out for a month.
Yes, Esa is fantastic, a rare beauty, a wonderful longlegged slut who could be a fashion model and instead prefere to be used as a cumdumpster and swallow cum as easily as water !!! I love her and something tells me we will see her in more PB scenes. BUT to have a great cum swallower willing to be filled with spunk and give her only 42 weak loads it's a crime. And not cover in cum her beautiful face it's an even bigger crime. So i hope to see her again with 100 or more guys and heavy facials.
. How many scenes are available on the site ? . Is there a daily d/l limit ? . and $60/mo. for gold membership is a SALE price ? what is regular price for monthly subscription ? .
Heavy facials are an absolute must imo. Heavy facials and heavy mouthfuls should be mandatory. None of this in between nonsense. Esa is one, of many, girls who has made it clear a 42 load scene is not even a challenge to her and we don't want to see it. Heavy facials. Heavy mouthfuls.Every single scene they've ever done (barring a few that have been removed for different reasons) are available. I do not believe there is a d/l limit at all. From experience the diamond is the way to go if you're going to become a member. They have some sales/deals a lot of the time and I know it is pricey - part of the reason I am not a member now - and imo the content right now is just not good enough to warrant it for me. But with the diamond you get the most for your money. I haven't been a member in almost a year now so someone may know how things are more recently, but in my experience that is the way to do it.
Edited by - massive facials on 12/3/2022 2:08:32 PM
^For my preferences I think it would be great to regularily have some updates without any facials at all, like it was in the beginning. Facials are not my thing (unless it's in combination with mouthfuls at the same time).
There's about 270/280 scenes available. Most of those have 3 versions, cam1, cam2 and a version with cam1 and cam2 combined (they shoot with two cameras). Most also have one interview and one bts scene, but interviews and bts are only available to Diamond members. So I agree with @massive facials, Diamond is the way to go, if only for one month, if you want to download as much as you want without any limitations, including the newest scenes which only are available for Diamod members for a period of time.
^^^^^^ . Thanks for the input m.f. and Vf . Anybody know why when i am choosing 'Choose membership plan' I can only select Silver (cant seem to see any other options) ?!? .
^ Yeah. Once you're a member at Diamond level once they tend to send emails with discounts on regaining your Diamond pretty regularly I'd say.
^^^ Videofan - I prefer facials but don't mind scenes that focus on heavy mouthfuls. I'd just prefer one thing focused on at a time sort of thing. I don't mind having both in the same scene as long as the focus is X number of loads for heavy mouthfuls and Y number for heavy facials. Or if they wanted to have scenes dedicated to only heavy mouthfuls and then scenes dedicated to heavy, heavy facials I'd prefer that. Right now they have small numbers so neither heavy facial or heavy mouthfuls and I feel like no one is really "happy" if that makes sense.
Yep, I said it a while back. It's very, very hard to please people who want very different things. You often end up pleasing neither group.
The funny thing is, they have the resources to knock both categories out of the park, but they need to find a better way to let fans know what they can expect with each scene. It would be pretty easy for them to shoot separate scenes with 25 guys giving a cute newcomer a huge facial, then go back to doing their 40-100 mouthful shots for the (few) girls who are up for it.
Note: This is not an invite for the "gokkun" crowd to swarm me with nonsensical cries to "move along". I have subscribed off and on, so I can rightfully offer my opinion as I please.
Watching the latest Esa Dicen trailer she mentions there are fluffer girls getting the guys ready for her. Not surprising but not something i had thought about. Is there any good video of the fluffer girls in action?
Is this scene out yet? Esa is one of the hottest, if not the hottest girls out there. It would be great to see her in Analvids scenes and maybe do scenes for the US studios too. She's fucking spectacular!!!
Looks like PB have a nice new hot model coming soon. Its a shame by the time it gets to filming she will be full clothed and suffering from neck injury from looking up. Here is a better idea of what the scene will be like.
veronique lapiedra (another one from lapiedra factory as Sherezade, Apollonia, Sapphire, Deborah...) is a new fresh, super beautiful slut. I have to admit that in last months PB did shoot many very attractive young whores, and this could be a good point if everything weren't wasted cause of an incomprehensible direction ending in deceiving shoots. First, the number of loads/guys : PB makes a poll, the result is that the customers want 75 or more loads, and PB give them scenes with35- 50 loads, some times furthermore weak because they shoot 2 scenes the same afternoon. So, why do they a poll if then the result is completely ignored ? Second, in the same poll, a large customers majority voted for scenes with swallowing and facials ; after Esa Dicen one we had 5 scenes with no facials at all. Another proof that the poll was only a mockery, and that PB makes fun of his clients. Third, last 5 scenes were all clothed (even if the girls were wearing lingerie, they never got nudes), another shitty choice (maybe to allow somebody to sell cum-stained clothes to some psychopath client ). It's very annoying, cause with such a good material (the girls are really wonderful and sexy) we could have some great scenes (as Esa Dicen 1), instead of the ruined ones we received fron PB.
i totally agree with Videofan. Unknown and newbie models are the most attractive, and often they're able to swallow many loads better then the most experienced pornstars ( i remember the problems of veterans as Lola Taylor, Nicole Love, Lady Gang, Barbie Esm, Vinna Reed, etc...) . I found very interesting Angelique Lapiedra, she's very nice and really loves to be submitted, a fresh, pretty, submissive young bitch. It seems that the new update will be Angelique Lapiedra 2, i'm very curious to watch it and see if this time she will be pushed to her limit (but obviously i don't believe it).
And it is garbage, weak loads, multiple same shooters. Obviously shot back to back with her first scene. PB being run by a bunch of cowboys, winging it . New season, same old shit.
Overpriced. Product continues to get worse and worse. Run by people who seemingly don't have a clue what they're doing or just don't care what the fans want. Idk who is continuing to pay their high prices for quality that just isn't there. With each hot new girl optimism is there but it dies off quickly when the scenes are released.
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