This looks terrible, but PRIVATE does so much great stuff that I can excuse them for this mistake of signing Ninn to a deal.

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Edited by - Mr. Hand on Dec 28 2001

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I am not getting at anyone (I respect everyone's right to their views), but I am disappointed that Private and Ninn seem to be copping more flak over this, which should be a quality product by porn standards at least, than the latest stud who thinks he's a film maker just cause Santa brought him a Handycam for Christmas. Simple solution - if you don't like it, don't buy/rent/watch it.

Don't worry guys, Private are not going to stop making the stuff you like!

Edited by - Gabriel Nine on Dec 29 2001

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I can only assume that Private's testing the waters for this as a novelty niche product.

Gabriel, my "problem" (if you like) with it is that Private have parted ways with Woodman, (a bad, bad move) who shot many of their high-budget features, shot anywhere in the world with excellent quality outdoor scenes and production values, and now they sign Ninn (an overrated director, IMO) who now does this, which as you say, can't be a cheap venture.

While I'm a firm subscriber to the "if you don't like it, don't buy it" philosophy, I'm concerned that this might be a bad portent for things to come. (I can't buy Woodman's Hustler stuff, as it appears that urination seems to be a common thing in them.. and Kovi's Pirate stuff doesn't appeal to me either, and as we say, "I don't like it so I won't be buying it"

cheers,

scipio

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Don't worry, I really don't think Private will be doing anything that alienates their core audience - they are surely too clever in business for that!

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No sleep 'till Budapest

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lucky I saved the first part of it in a text editor when I saw it was getting long.. not gonna retype the rest of it right now though

Gabiel:~

At the same time I acknowledge the reasons for the industry to make features, both to bring in new consumers (especially as the prevailing assumption is that women like features more then other genres) and to give the pornmakers themselves a sense of purpose and keep them interested. ie: "we're going to Venice to shoot a Mafia film" as opposed to "we're going to Motel 6 to shoot 5 scenes"

Companies like Anabolic/Diabolic, while undeniably very popular generally put me off with their boring sets and interior locations. I was looking through some old videos the other day (to decide which get upgraded to DVD and which just get sold off cheap) and FFed my way through several Anabolic/Diabolic vids. I just found them bland looking. Sets and lighting.

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But look at the bigger picture - Private are continuing to release virtually the same product range as before, with some slightly altered titles and the addition of Ninn and Bellochio. So how much has really changed? You can still buy Woodman's movies, just from another production company, and you can still buy all the other Private movies.

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Ironically, here is a (semi) original idea, or at least something a little different, and you are all complaining about it!

As I have already said, I am not that interested in Ninn or this project. All I am saying is that there should be room for something new and different (not necessarily this particular animated movie) otherwise porn will stagnate, and we will be arguing about "why don't they do anything different in porn today!"

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I perhaps misplaced the use of the term "formulaic". Private clearly have/had a formula that works. I wasn't really criticising this - if it ain't broke, don't fix it - but rather I was suggesting in general terms that they don't really make original movies. As a side issue, it's ironic that the stuff they have done that tries to be original (some of the Pirate Deluxe series) is the stuff that many fans have complained about, even if it has brought in a new audience.

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I dunno, I'm a bit wary of the whole "Private goes sci-fi" thing after the Uranus Experiment (cover a woman in blue bodypaint, and she's an alien. Though an ugly one). On the other hand, it could be interesting. Though I can already see the hype about the first cum-shot in bullet-time..

Adamo's Gladiator trilogy seems reasonable, despite the dross about "The film, which will be released as a trilogy, is set to make history not so much as simply an adult movie, but more as a mainstream movie with a strong hardcore emphasis."

Though I don't think I'm in much danger of having to choose between "Star Wars: Attack of the Clones" or "Private's Gladiator" when I go to the cinema in a few months it looks to be a good production, with high production values, attractive people and nice costumes.

As for 2funky4u, I personally don't forsee great numbers of people outside the porn industry (who will no doubt wet themselves) getting especially excited about it. I'll stick to Pixar over Private to provide my CGI animated entertainment.

cheers,

scipio

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