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Edard Balladur
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Posted - Jun 3 2008 : 4:17AM
So if I go in my profile, edit, topics, your recent topics I have tracks of the last topics I written in and the color of the folder indicates me if there are new messages in them since the last time I checked.
The problem is all works fine at the beginning but with a certain period of time there are false blue folders that is to say when I check them there is no new messages in. And all of them are which in the last message is from myself ! The others don't have the error. So this is very annoying as I must check every topic that flashes regularly to confirm there are no new things in them then make disappear the false blue icon !
Is someone having the same problem ? I doubt it's only me, it must be a general bug in the forum that need to be fixed. Please help !... I'm pretty desperate and cannot bear this bug anymore now...
Drew Black
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Posted - Jun 3 2008 : 8:09AM
I can look into it. I'm aware of the issue. It only happens on threads that are older then two weeks or a month, I forget what the cutoff is.
We only keep track of what topics users have read for the previous few weeks.
Edard Balladur
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Posted - Jun 3 2008 : 11:32AM
This would be great you could fix it !
But I insist on the fact it only happens when I am the last poster in the topic, not when someone else is the last (I suppose he has then the symetrical problem). So it's a stange bug.
Did this forum came all-built-up or did amateurs programmed it ?
Thanks anyway.
Drew Black
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Posted - Jun 3 2008 : 8:17PM
I personally wrote 98% of the code that runs this forum and 100% of the code that runs the rest of the site. I appreciate the feedback.
Edard Balladur
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Posted - Jun 4 2008 : 3:34AM
That's what I said to me as I haven't seen anywhere such a forum. Congratulations for all the work it represents that I can only imagine but the less bright side is this forum has innovative problems you don't see elsewhere :) So please keep me informed with this issue.
From what you say you keep tracks of some users infos then purge them. Maybe to save some space or ressources. Then you could change this in putting the savings directly in the user computer with a cookie for example. That's just an idea, maybe it's not appropriate or too complicated. Anyway it seems strange the non-last-topics work well, the tracks seem to be keeped a lot more time than what you said or maybe I didn't understood you well on this point.
See you.
 
Drew Black
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Posted - Jun 4 2008 : 1:48PM
I plan to fix this soon. I've been on vacation for the past month and just returned to the office today. There's a lot of stuff to work on before I get to this.
I will post to this thread when it has been fixed.
Clam Digger
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Posted - Jun 4 2008 : 1:57PM
Drew;
This happens to me as well.
Edard Balladur
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Posted - Jun 5 2008 : 1:56AM
I suppose it happens to everyone. And no one have complained about it before !!?... Maybe a lot of people don't use this feature but I don't know why...
Ok Drew for your reply. We're waiting. And thanks !
Drew Black
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Posted - Jun 5 2008 : 2:29AM
We're?
Drew Black
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Posted - Jun 5 2008 : 2:51AM
I think y'all can stop waiting.
Drew Black
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Posted - Jun 5 2008 : 3:05AM
BTW, I've increased the duration of data retention to 30 days. It was only 9 days for some reason. I'll have to keep an eye on the database table to see if it gets too large. I think I remember we were having random timeouts and forum problems when that table grew too large in the past.
Edard Balladur
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Posted - Jun 5 2008 : 4:24AM
I'm fearing it will at best delay the problem and so reduce its frequency.
I have maybe a clue : if non-last-posting-in topics work well maybe that is because they are supposed to be without any news whereas the last-posting-in ones are supposed to have some so this would be the thing to fix, not the delay.
But you doesn't describe anything and doesn't reply to remarks I make so I cannot understand you in return and I don't figure what's going on and what you're thinking of...
Drew Black
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Posted - Jun 5 2008 : 4:53AM
I fixed the problem AND increased the period that we retain the data for which topics users have read. the problem is fixed, not delayed.
I have no idea what you're talking about here. Are you requesting that I either quote your posts or address you specifically when posting in reply to the post that directly precedes my reply? I'll try to be less ambiguous in the future to avoid any unintentional misunderstands.
When I said:
It was in response to this portion of a post maed by Edard Balladur:
Y'all being U.S. hillbilly slang to address a group of people (also known as y'uns). Since Mr. Balladur implied there's a group of people waiting by the use of the contraction for "we are" (i.e. we're) I figured this would be the appropriate way to address it. Now if the post said "I am waiting", which most likely is the correct way to phrase it, I would have said "you can stop waiting".
In any case, the problem is fixed. Y'all run along now ya hear?

edited to fix quote.
Edited by - Drew Black on 6/5/2008 4:54:25 AM

Edard Balladur
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Posted - Jun 5 2008 : 11:25AM
Great ! This would even be better if I could understand what the problem was and what you did exactly. Was my hypothesis correct ? And so this replies to this :
That is to say I would like to know what happened and what you did to fix the bug ! Not more, I even didn't understood it was fixed and believed you misunderstood what the problem was exactly as I diddn't saw how the delay extension would have been able to fix it !
Lol, I thought you were mocking me and was hurted. I believed you wanted to point out the fact I asserted we were numerous wanting this problem to be fixed and so put you at work while there are not so many people that complained. But I used the "we" because Clam Digger also warned about the same problem for him. Did I made an error in english ? I don't think I did but maybe the "I" was more appropriate in the context.
I dont understand what do you mean. Is it a funny reply if I say : "now that we'all, bunch of hillbillies we are, are hearing that the problem is fixed from you, civilized smart computing guy, we're running along from our bloody electronic machines we don't understand towards our crop fields lighthearted !" ? Or does that have any sense ?
Edited by - Edard Balladur on 6/5/2008 11:49:07 AM
Edited by - Edard Balladur on 6/5/2008 11:51:22 AM
Drew Black
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Posted - Jun 5 2008 : 12:11PM
It does not have any sense.
 
Edard Balladur
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Posted - Jun 5 2008 : 4:29PM
That's what I thought !
But you could have replied to my questions, it would made me happy to know how this forum works and what was going wrong. Guess you don't have the time...
Drew Black
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Posted - Jun 5 2008 : 7:07PM
I have tons of time. Unfortunately I'm just an amateur programmer and don't have the skills to describe the problem nor the understanding of the ultimate solution to properly describe it to you. I just started changing a bunch of stuff until it appeared to work. It looks fixed to me, time to move onto the next amateur programming bug.
This might help explain my lack of interest in responding further.
Edard Balladur
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Posted - Jun 6 2008 : 12:03PM
Ok it seems strange but if you cannot go further in your explanations, that's better than anything. As I'm not myself a programmer I don't really figure how this can be as you programmed the whole thing, but it doesn't matter.
As for the link I found your reply a little bit strange... I don't understand if you're insinuating I'm trying to employ such techniques or if I'm lacking at being socially acceptable for you.
licker
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Posted - Jun 6 2008 : 7:39PM
Edard, I am guessing that English is not your native language, and some difficulties with translation are happening here. There are shades of meaning in words that are different in different languages.
For example, referring to a person as an amateur can be insulting in modern English usage.
Also "thanks anyway" has the meaning "you failed completely, but thanks for trying". This may sound strange, but many things in English are not logical.
I do not think you wanted to give these meanings. I think it is difficult to write in a foreign language. This time you had bad luck, and your writing sounded rude and not polite.
Drew linked you to a site that has many good examples of how to work with people using English language.
Also, when Drew used slang words, he was not mocking you. This is a way that we make speech more friendly and less formal. Sometimes we use it to reduce tension and be more friendly after an accidental insult.
A simple misunderstanding can become a problem very fast. Good luck in future.
Edard Balladur
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Posted - Jun 7 2008 : 6:06AM
@licker
All this is really funny :)
You're totally right. I'm used to name someone that doesn't speak in his native language a barbarian. It is in reference to Romans that called barbarians all people that didn't speak latin. And the word designates now a rude person (we have barbare in french). This is because language is a matter of experience and when you're not used in using it with other native speaking persons you cannot add the action/reaction experimental effects that have words and sentences on people to your understanding of what you're saying, it's not really a question of logic or shades of meanings, it's just a question of habits. English is an easy language and the politeness seems not so hard to comprehend, however I still make novice errors in it. Did you know it is said that in japanese politeness is very hard to master ? The polite forms are put in the verbs and there are numerous formulations for everything (even if it has anything to do with the person you're talking to) you're obliged to learn depending on the social hierarchy that exists between the two persons, any mistake is a rude act. Guess this is not a language for me !...
So my "thanks anyway" meant in my mind "in all cases I thanks you".
And when Drew wrote "Unfortunately I'm just an amateur programmer and don't have the skills to describe the problem nor the understanding of the ultimate solution to properly describe it to you. I just started changing a bunch of stuff until it appeared to work. It looks fixed to me, time to move onto the next amateur programming bug." that's maybe here he's mocking me using irony ! That's funny because I thought it was in the previous hillbilly slang adress. So he would know the bug and the explanation, that would make sense because he wrote the code, and then gives a silly explanation than I haven't got. Hmmmm... guess if this is false, this could be another rude hypothesis for him :( Sorry in advance.
And amateur standed for someone opposed to professional in my mind, which is the definition in french. Lol.
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to have enlighten me, I will not insist with Drew if he doesn't want to give explanations as I'm an amateur in english talking there would be more and more errors as the discussion flows.
Thanks and see you.
EDIT : see y'all ;)
Edited by - Edard Balladur on 6/7/2008 6:08:56 AM
Clam Digger
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Posted - Jun 7 2008 : 10:08AM
Edard, one of the great things about ADT is meeting people from all over the World. Because so many of us are from the US we forget that many from the international community are just forget that not every one knows the difference between our humorous use of slang or colloquialisms and mean spirited sarcasm.
Good wishes to you and I look forward to reading more of your posts.
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Posted - Jun 7 2008 : 11:03AM
and that's the definition is english too. drew is a professional and very good at what he does. if you don't understand why calling him an amateur is rude i have to assume you're full of shit.
drew needs to spend his time programming not explaining every detail to you. that makes you demanding and rude.
Edard Balladur
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Posted - Jun 7 2008 : 12:34PM
After I began this topic I rode some "tech talk" threads and here is what I found : https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/topic_id=119600/forum_id=16/cat_id=3/reply=1288703#post1288703
ChodeMasterJ : Drew, out of curiosity, what schooling/degrees/etc in computer stuff do you have? i've always wondered that.
Drew : None.
ChodeMasterJ : well aren't you Mr. Smartypants then.
So I believed Mr Drew Black isn't paid for his work on this forum (that I praised as written above) and also he is not a professional considering computing and consequently I used the word "amateur" asking my questions at a certain time using the french definition of the word. Maybe I don't get something important to understand this point.
Mr Steph could I humbly make this remark to you that supposing I am "full of shit" for having used a definition I believed was correct can make me feel like you're rude to me. Thanks.
Edited by - Edard Balladur on 6/7/2008 1:56:51 PM
Edard Balladur
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Posted - Jun 7 2008 : 12:36PM
Thanks Clam Digger but as you see I have a hard time making me understand by native english talking people. I feel really disgusted with all those unfair attacks.
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Drew Black
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Posted - Jun 7 2008 : 4:40PM
So, let me get this straight, you used the word amateur in a post to describe my efforts on this site because you later read that I don't have any degrees or schooling?
BTW, using the honorific "Mr." when addressing a female is also rude in any language. You've been around this site long enough to know that Steph is the owner and she is female. It's things like this that make it seem like you are intentionally being a pain in our ass.
There's also no point in carrying on this discussion any further. It's no longer related to "tech talk". I'm locking the thread. If you want to have a debate about language please take it somewhere else.
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