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schandor
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Bloomington, MN
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6/01
Posted - Jun 27 2001 : 7:44PM
I have a Toshiba DVD player and have problems playing every single Adam and Eve DVD I've rented. Toshiba says it's because of the "computer friendly" software they put on the disk. Any thoughts on how to get around this? If not, does anyone know how can I contact Adam & Eve Productions to see if they have any ideas?

Thank you for your thoughts.

Edited by - schandor on Jun 28 2001

Doug Simpson
Member

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6/01
Posted - Jun 27 2001 : 8:15PM
not that this helps your current situation, but I've heard that Toshiba set top players are the most tempermental players around. I've bought 4 Sony DVD players, 3 of which no longer work, 2 Philips, both of which are great, 1 Oritron (yes, Oritron) which works fine and 1 Playstation 2, no problems. But for what it's worth, other people in the mainstream DVD world regard Toshibas as the bottom of the barrel. Many of them have Toshibas in their QC bays because they figure that if their DVDs will work in the Toshiba, they'll work in anything.
Planet Sex
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1951 Posts
6/01
Posted - Jun 27 2001 : 8:25PM
Don't blame Adam & Eve. Blame Toshiba.
schandor
Member

Bloomington, MN
23 Posts
6/01
Posted - Jun 27 2001 : 8:55PM
This isn't about blame. It doesn't matter who's fault this is. What does matter is getting things fixed and/or adding to a list of known incompatabilities. Since I've tried Toshiba I'm trying to get a hold of the other involved party. That's it.
Planet Sex
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1951 Posts
6/01
Posted - Jun 27 2001 : 9:03PM
There's several lists of DVD glitch reports all ove the net, that you can find by typing "DVD glitches" at search engines like Google.com.

Problem is, almost 90% of those glitches happens on Toshiba players. Not only with porn, but also with mainstream titles as well. Just check a quick list I compiled:

So, the logical conclusion is to assume that there's something very wrong with Toshiba's players. Cause NO tabletop player is supposed to have problems with the PC Friendly software, only DVD-Roms.

Edited by - Planet Sex on Jun 27 2001

 
astroknight All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 27 2001 : 11:37PM
schandor, you'll probably have a lot more problems if it's a toshiba player, both mainstream and porn. Contact Toshitba and see about getting the upgrade that fixes a lot of the problems.
dumblonde
Senior Member

2352 Posts
7/00
Posted - Jun 28 2001 : 1:18AM
Hi Schandor,
Welome.
I have a Toshiba SD2200, and I have the same problem with not only Adam & Eve, but many others as well. There is
supposedly a solution, but it entails packing up your player and shipping it to Georgia for god knows how long, and I
just haven't done it. I'll just watch those in my Creative Labs DVD ROM player, which handles them all and a slammin
picture, to boot.
In Hawaii, call Toshiba at 808-521-5377
ImageKat
Member

26 Posts
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Posted - Jun 29 2001 : 1:37PM
Hi Schandor,
Boy do I get a funny feeling when I go into the forum
and see topics like Problems with Adam & Eve, but by
the same token, I appreciate the input. I'm sorry you
have been unable to view the fine products on A&E, but
I have been seeing numerous problems similar to yours
and yes it is all revolving around the player. I do
the DVD authoring and graphics for many of the A&E titles
and I am always available should you need some technical
support about the functionality of the DVD's. I can
be reached at kat@imagewarrior.com and am always open
to suggestions, comments, questions or whatever you
might need on the DVD's for Adam and Eve. I hope you
are able to view your movies, and I am sorry about
your machine problems.
Kat

ImageKat
ImageWarrior.com

Planet Sex
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1951 Posts
6/01
Posted - Jun 30 2001 : 6:46AM
The brazilian company I work for, Sexxxy, released on VHS some A&E titles (Apassionata, Wolf's Tale and X-Girls amongst 'em). But that's not the point.

We recently purchased some DVDs from various companies, including A&E - not for distribution, just to see how they're done, what kind of extras they have, etc.

Apart from that, we also have a DVD magazine and we're constantly testing new players. And we use, for the testing, some titles listed as "problematics" at Raincoat's site.

All of the A&E titles played 100% fine in all the players we tested, including some cheap-ass, bottom-of-the-line brands. EXCEPT the Toshibas. One of the Toshibas even SPAT OUT a Zane titles (Backstage Sluts #2), that played fine in all the other players - including the cheap-ass CCE and the grumpy Gradiente.

That's very weird. Is Toshiba allergic to porn, or something like that?

schandor
Member

Bloomington, MN
23 Posts
6/01
Posted - Jun 30 2001 : 7:19AM
Hi everyone,
I just wanted to say thank you for all the responses. I had no idea that Toshiba's had problems with so many titles. I've had mine for close to two years now, have watched hundreds of movies on it, and never had a problem minus the obvious (the reason I posted). Guess I'm just lucky. Anyway, I'll probably be looking to buy a new player around November so I'll just hold off on the A and E titles until then. But if anyone knows of any Toshiba tricks I'd certainly like to hear them in case I run into something like this again.

Thanks again

Planet Sex
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6/01
Posted - Jun 30 2001 : 7:28AM
Well, you may find something in this page.

And if you want to buy a new player, I, personally, would suggest you a Pioneer or Sony. Sony's so sensitive, you don't even see the layer change in the dual-layer discs; Pioneer isn't THAT precise, but of all the players I know it's the one who's más macho .

Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 30 2001 : 9:03AM
ImageKat,
While I agree that the problem is the Toshiba DVD player and not the discs, it is obvious that these players tend to have problems with discs from specific manufacturers, and play discs from other manufacturers with no problems at all.

Therefore, there has to be something that these manufacturers are doing that other manufacturers are not doing that causes these players to have problems.

Has it been determined what the variable is that causes the problems with the Toshibas? If so, is there a different way to accomplish whatever it is that this variable does?

When it comes down it, although there are problems with these Toshiba players, there are a lot of them out there. Most people are not going to buy a new player because they can't play Adam & Eve titles on this player. They will just stop buying Adam & Eve titles.

It's very easy to say "It's Toshiba's problem" and not do anything to fix the situation. But the fact remains that the compatibility problem is going to cost Adam & Eve (as well as other manufacturers) money. When 90+% of discs will play correctly on someones machine, they are probably going to place the blame on the manufacturer of what they see as defective discs. Unless it is a huge deal, It only makes sense for the software manufacturers to do something to get around this problem.

ImageKat
Member

26 Posts
12/00
Posted - Jul 2 2001 : 12:31PM
Hi Bill,
Thanks for your response. I agree, player problems can
reduce sales of certain lines of product, the problem
is what has the player manufacturer done differently
that takes it out of the "standard" for dvd playability,
and it is not just with A&E. This starts going into
the area of desk tops, not all desk tops are compatible
as well. And if we try to accommodate "un-standard" into
the authoring, then we open the door to more problems
with playability. Reading through these forums, A&E
just happens to be the most recent movie pin pointed
as not playing on these machines, numerous other titles
are listed as well... We are trying to figure out what
makes the in-compatible, and when we find the answers
we will adjust if possible or put a tag warning on the
boxes or ?????

Kat

torris
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Posted - Jul 2 2001 : 12:51PM
This probably isn't what you want to hear, but get rid of your Toshi(t)ba. My old machine wouldn't play 2/3 of the Diabolic/anabolic titles I have. Upgraded to a Sony and everything that wouldn't play on Toshi(t)ba works slick on the Sony.

Torris

Planet Sex
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Posted - Jul 2 2001 : 12:53PM
Maybe our friend schandor can help by describing the exact problem he had. The disk skipped chapters, froze at certain points, or didn't played at all?

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schandor
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Bloomington, MN
23 Posts
6/01
Posted - Jul 3 2001 : 5:26AM
Love to,
I would put the disk in, and the word "Play" would come up on the DVD display (perfectly normal thus far). Unfotunately that's all that would happen. The play indicator would never go away and nothing would show up on the TV. I could hear the disk spinning up inside the machine. This happened on "A Witch's Tail" and two others from Adam and Eve. I can't remember which two because they happened a long while ago. I just figured it was a fluke. As I mentioned before, this is the first problem I've encountered with the player be it porn or otherwise. One other thing, the display would indicate the section (chapter) it was trying to access.

That's all I can think of for now, I will update if anything else comes to mind.

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Posted - Jul 3 2001 : 9:04AM
schandor: i have two toshiba players from different years. thus far i have not had any problems with adam and eve discs. i have not specifically tried a witch's tail, but i've watched maybe ten of their dvds over time.

i haven't had any problems with the players, other than the sound problem on some private discs, which i fixed by changing the setup to analog (as per someone's suggestion in the forum.)

i wish i could be more helpful. just wanted to add to the evidence pile :)

Planet Sex
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Posted - Jul 3 2001 : 9:18AM
Change to analog? Steph, that's a VERY interesting tip. Can you please elaborate a little more?

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schandor
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Bloomington, MN
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6/01
Posted - Jul 11 2001 : 6:19AM
Well my stars and garters,
For blanks and giggles I decided to try one more A&E DVD: Appassionata. Low and behold it played fine. I didn't even have to change the audio or anything.

ImageKat, do you happen to know if there is anything different about this disk than others made by Adam and Eve?

Saki
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Posted - Jul 11 2001 : 7:32AM
tricia_devereaux
Evil Angel DVD

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Posted - Jul 11 2001 : 4:23PM
I've emailed Kat, and hopefully talking together we may learn something that we do the same.
Evil Angel DVD has had lots of problems being played on various Toshiba's, but some Toshiba owners have found it to be fine, so go figure.
I agree with Bill that we should do our best to try to figure out what's different, but that's very difficult because since we're in competition with other manufacturers, and different authorers are in competition with each other, so I'm not sure where we could turn to for advice from someone who isn't having this problem and ask them what they do different.
Anyway, we've been looking to buy a Toshiba player for the exact reason Doug mentioned - if our discs work on that, they should be fine across the board. But I've received most complaints about the 99 models (1399, 2199, etc.) But if the 2006 is having problems, maybe that will do, since I can't find a 99 model in the stores.
Schandor - what model is yours?
Planet Sex
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Posted - Jul 11 2001 : 4:52PM
I did a quick research, still in need of further data, but I found out that the entire line of '99 Toshibas has this kind of problem - a BIOS thing that was fixed in the newest models.

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schandor
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Bloomington, MN
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6/01
Posted - Jul 11 2001 : 5:32PM
My player is a Toshiba SD-3109. It was produced in November of 1999. I also have updated to the latest greatest firmware, version 3.
HoustonDon
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Houston
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Posted - Jul 13 2001 : 12:32AM
Tricia, I have a 1999 Toshiba but it's their top of the line one and has had few problems playing dvd's. If you'd like, I'm sure we could work out a swap-Evil Angel dvd's for the player.

PS: A Witch's Tail played perfectly-I still watch a scene or two of it every once in awhile...

snowman872
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Posted - Jul 14 2001 : 9:29PM
What Toshiba DVD model do you own? Model information is always helpful in identifying and solving problems.

Thanks -

Snowman

Whoops - nevermind! I didn't see page 2 of this thread!

Edited by - snowman872 on Jul 14 2001

 
ImageKat
Member

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Posted - Jul 17 2001 : 1:23PM
schandor and all:
Received a copy of Appassionata and while I am still
going through it, one of the things I noticed right away
is the 2 disc set, and the disc with the feature has
no rom function on it (meaning web link)....Now this
has caused some issues in the past with desk top players,
but maybe this is an issue with set tops, specifically
Toshiba.

Another overall problem, is we are pushing technologies
on all ends, authoring and players....Somewhere something
is not going to be compatable with all discs. Some of
the older players have trouble with the newer discs coming
out. The amount of information creates problems for the
reader.

We are going to see these problems from the past, in
the present and on in to the future as the technologies
continue to grow, new glitches will come to light....

I am continuing my research and will let you know what
I find out.

Kat




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