Is it me or is Lesbian porn been kinda lacking? Alot of the sites use the same girls which is not the worst issue but there are other hot girls that do g/g. Some of the camera work is so bad on some sites. Like we sit through the story line, which I'm not a fan of but then we only to get the side of women's face going down on another girl with the camera across the room? Wth is that? Masturbation scenes have also fell the hell off. Anyway that's for another rant. Speaking of casting the same girls the pairings are kinda terrible. I want to see close ups and I want to see the women's bodies and appreciated. I want sensual and sexy not gonzo. I'm not saying make softcore scenes but there is either two extremes gonzo or softcore terrible camera work with bad pairings. Can I see beautiful women in sexy outfits? Lingerie please. Stockings please fishnets. Pretty feet? Close up of pussy licking and gaping. Less scissoring, pissing, and jamming dildos in chicks without even seeing their bodies on screen. Why watch porn if I can't even see the pussy? Thoughts? There are certain site with great pairings, sexy women, we do a little intro of the girl featuring the girls showcasing their best features or a quick solo only to be ruined by some sweaty dude. For some people the more extreme the better i guess. I feel like I just want to feel like I was apart of the action. My favorite gg scenes are on the danni.com and inthecrack.com. most other sites are hit or miss. I like cherrypimps but the live shows are inconsistent.
not sure what to tell you, but I find it odd that you "want sensual and sexy not gonzo," but "Like we sit through the story line, which I'm not a fan of."
No story line = gonzo, doesn't it?
I would like better story lines, or at least story lines that don't just come to an abrupt end when one of them says, "I want you to fuck me." Or something else as unrealistic. I know it's porn, but if you're gonna have a story, then ride it out until there's some at least slightly more natural and believable opening for the sex.
Install a video editing program. It will take some time but eventually you'll be able to create your own perfect porn library. My all-girl/trans-girl collection is phenomenal.
Nosce Te Ipsum
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Posted - Dec 16 2021 : 11:22AM
I mostly agree. All I watch is lez and the genre in a bit of a rut:
Stories: there are occasionally decent stories but most of the time, it's either about rapey parents or rapey almost-underage shit. When it's not either of those rapey things, it's inane mind-numbing dialogue that goes on way too long about how one of the characters has never even heard of sex before. And people ASK for stories like this. So annoying.
Cameras: there's a lot of just setting a camera up in a separate room down the hall, but honestly I feel like this is getting better. Sites are including more closeups.
Action: way too much peeing and scissoring. I think it's the same audience that asks for the rapey parent stories. It's a matter of the studios making what people with bad taste are asking for, unfortunately.
Pairings: lots of performers that have no same-sex attraction whatsoever take GG gigs for a check that gets their vagina a break from dick/penetration. Leads to bad scenes. Directors cast them because they are cute, but it's bad for the scene overall.
Fake moaning: unfortunately, lots of dudes that can't tell when a woman is aroused watch lesbian content and demand loud announcement of arousal and exaggeration. I think it's the same guys that want alot of peeing and mom-rape stories.
Wow, my sentiments exactly. I had tried raising these same issues in my thread titled "Thoughts on Current G/G and Lesbian Sites" but maybe I was being a bit too diplomatic, haha. But yeah, noticed a distinct move away from visuals and towards story, buildup, and chemistry. All of which is fine, but not at the expense of visuals. If the scenes don't get the visuals right, all the tension, story, and buildup in the world can't save it.
Like you, I am not exactly looking for gonzo (although I don't mind a well-executed scene), but content that is more geared towards the visual aspect of G/G. I really wish sites like Danni, Filly Films, KissMeGirl Explicit, Lansky's WLT, and Tammy-era Twistys were still around, as I think they would be a nice complement to the story and chemistry-driven stuff these days. I have also lately been watching "Party of 3", "Haze Her" and some of the "Girls Gone Wild" scenes, which I think were underrated at the time. In the era of 4K, it's a bit of a travesty that we don't have sites that are geared more to the visual.
Anyway, glad to meet others who share similar sentiments.
Cheers,
Doobie
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I think chemistry is important too! Super-G4P girls and pairings who just don't connect to each other well won't produce the intense visuals we want to see because they'll be grossed out. Chemistry is another thing these companies are not focused on at all and it's an area that needs improvement.
Yep, totally agree. It's one of the reasons why it would be nice if there were G/G "casting" sites featuring girls that were new to the industry, that way other sites could quickly figure out who to hire. It would also be fun to see, as we don't really get much aside from the occasional scene from FTVgirls and the like...
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Its actually gotten a lot better than it was back in the day, say late 90s, early 2000s. There use to be zero chemistry. The kissing consisted of really hot chicks flicking their tongues at each other. Things got better when Sweetheart Video, Filly Films and Girlfriend Films came on the scene. They starting shooting scene where the girls made out for real as if they liked it. And the scenarios got much better. There needs to be a certain amount of sensualness in a lesbian scene in order for it to work in my opinion.
As far as scenarios go, I personally prefer a seduction scene where one of them have never been with a woman before and there's some coaxing involved. My favorite is the young girl/older woman scenario, but that's just me.
But OP is right. It does seem to be falling off a bit lately with scenes that are basically cookie cutter. They kissing a little, take turns going down on each other, etc. There needs to be a little more creativity in both scenarios and in what sex acts are portrayed to make the scenes hotter. There's nothing worse than having 2 smoking hot chicks do a lackluster scene.
^Strongly agree on the late 90's-early 00's comparison. G/G lately has been in a rut compared to the highs of previous years, but take a look back at G/G content from that late 90's/early 00's period and you'd be stunned at how bad it was. One of the reasons it took me so long to appreciate lesbian porn was that my first intro to it was some scenes from that period and it completely repelled me from wanting to check out more.
In a lot of ways I feel like lesbian content is hitting a plateau from it's peak period, which I'd say was roughly from 2009-2018. Looking back at the content coming out of early-era Girlsway & Girlfriends Films, it was definitely an embarrassment of riches. There has been a fair amount of regression from that, but I do see some bright spots. A lot of the big name G/G performers from that era have been going the self-produced route, but you're starting to see them pop up again for sites like AllherLuv & Adult Time, so hopefully it will start trending back in the right direction in 2022.
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Posted - Dec 19 2021 : 11:56AM
Remember when one scene in Girlfriendsfilms were one hour plus, not you can barely get 25 minutes. These days everybody are in the short range barely any foreplay, touching, kissing. I'm liking amateur sites more and more.
To me Girlfriend Films of the early 2000 to about 2012 is the gold standard for what I consider to be great lesbian porn. Now that doesn't mean that there weren't a bunch of lemons made during that time but the people behind GFF regularly managed to get the right women to work with each other and the chemistry was often simply incredible. I don't know how many f the women who worked for GFF were gay for pay but the fact that I was rarely able to identify a performance where it was obvious says something about the casting and direction. The scenarios weren't always the greatest and yet it still managed to add something extra that is sorely lacking in todays porn. I would say that Sweetheart Video also did a great job as well and in many ways it's often difficult to tell which studio shot a video unless you already know it.
I also loved many of Kinks Whipped Ass and Everything Butt videos but strangely while these often starred only women. I often felt as though they were more g/g penetration type videos and less lesbian videos that happen to include penetration. That distinction did not prevent me from loving them but the lack of kissing and general passion I wanted to see rarely materialized. Then there is Mason's Lesbian X videos. There are some amazing treasures to be found here but too often the performance of the women is so over the top that it negates any enjoyment I might have had with the content. In fact that criticism of Mason produced videos is why I often can't watch her stuff.
Girlsway stuff is too often a mix of everything I don't like about more recent lesbian porn that I'm not certain I watch any of the stuff I downloaded over the years from that studio.
I feel like lesbian porn is in a great place. Yes some studios like Girlfriends Films and even Girlsway has fallen off a bit even possibly a lot but I think of studios like AllHerLuv, Bellesa, and Lust Cinema all have great content.
Nothing is perfect and I could talk about the bad things for B/G and trans genre but in general what makes the lesbian genre better to me is I love that not only more female directors like Jacky, Holly, Bree, and Erika but more female directors that are actually performers like Casey, Whitney, and Joanna who know what they want and how scenes should go to make it feel natural, authentic, and just overall great.
I think the performers also play the big role in it too. I feel like plenty of performers now aren't just in it for the money. There is the less "gay 4 pay". When I think about seeing women like Lena Paul, Angela White, Cherie DeVille, Lacy Lennon, and so many more I think about the passion and energy they bring to each scene. They don't fake it, they don't half bring it, and they genuinely love women. They go all in even after the camera stop rolling I'm sure they still going at it. I've heard stories of how two performers would do a scene together for some random studio and it was such a tease for them bc they really couldn't do what they really wanted to do to each other. The second they had a chance to get together again with a real studio that will let them do whatever they just dove right in and had an amazing hot scene.
I can never get tired of seeing women like Angela White and Sinn Sage grace my screen bc I know they are going to deliver all the time. I love a great storyline so I know what studios to go too like AllHerLuv for example. Not really a fan of gonzo unless it's for like onlyfans bc you just turn the camera on with Lena Paul, Angela White, Abigail Mac, and Lacy Lennon to name a few and that scene will be amazing. But again I think lesbian porn is in a great place especially now too with the WeLikeGirls, Girl Crush for Twistys, and Bellesa House type scenes. I love them.
^ Give you credit, that's a sunshiny view of today's g/g porn scene. I fall somewhere between you & the"it all sucks" crowd on the spectrum. My one comment would concern the Eli Cross/Casey Calvert directing days at AdultTime. Think that's the Casey you are referring to above. Anyways, thought they were not good. That's a diplomatic way to put it.
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It's definitely a matter of subjective taste. For instance, I remember people talking about this Scarlit Scandal and Adriana Chechik scene from SLAYED that was just them peeing on each other and screaming alot. Someone said it was great and meanwhile I thought it was one of the worst GG scenes I've ever seen.
I do kind of agrre on the current lack of real heat in much of what I see.Granted , I might be a bit jaded and have a bit of a fixation on strap on's (which Idon't really see alot of good stuff there either lately). Abby Winters is reliable , bit I miss stuff like Lily Cade ,older Filly Films, the great Girl Crush series ,# 1 with Zoe Voss and the beloved Brooke Lee Adams/Gracie Glam scene .Ultimate Surrender had some great stuff ,loved it when they had some no nonsense anal strap on.Kristen Scott is kinda the exception here , she is wonderfully tallented in just about eveything she does .
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Posted - Dec 21 2021 : 8:00AM
I think all the fake squirting(pee) scenes are the main reason I'm not big into g/g porn. When watching all that, I always wonder "Are the women really into this?" Yes, some may be into it but I think most are not and just doing it because fans request it for some reason. I just don't find pee sexy, sorry.
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Do they not do the peeing thing in BG? I think that's where it comes from; fans coming from BG to watch GG and then being bored and asking for peeing, loud orgasm announcements, and constant moaning. It's so irritating.
Late to the party, but G/G fans tastes can be pretty varied, but most agree that the genre today is kind of in a lukewarm state. I think a big part of the reason is the retirement or move to other genres of a lot of the top tier G/G directors. Furthermore, many of the best authentic G/G performers have also retired or at least retired from "mainstream" G/G.
Some promising G/G sites also went defunct or were abandoned by the companies who started them. I think that these developments have only magnified some of the bad habits of the genre that have persisted over the years; visual style, lack of chemistry, over the top moaning, scissoring, etc. There are a few diamonds in the rough in terms of both companies and performers, but they are doing a lot of heavy lifting at the moment.
The last couple of years have had a heavy impact on the industry on the whole, but I'm hoping betters things are coming in 2022, because some entities have positioned themselves to continue to and possibly increase delivery of high quality G/G content. Fingers crossed.
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0I think the problem with lesbian porn is it isn't real! I've been to parties and situation where real lesbians' are there and they devour each other. It's not this fake taking turn looking at each others pussy and barely touching lips when you kiss. It's legs spread, hardcore bobbing for apples action. I'll even go as far to say they sounds like little piggies at the troth as they grunt a whine.
I've also see straight women who dive in face first for the experience. 90's and early 2000's porn used to be true pussy eaters now it's all fake, Even straight performer damn near refuse to kiss these days. There used to be a lesbian market, I don't know if it exist anymore, but they were straight dyke titles that started women who only worked with women. Most of them looked liked Middle School P.E. teachers, but it was what it was. I never watched any of is, cause the women all had military haircuts, didn't wear any makeup and had tasteless tattoos.
These day performers are not interested in same sex scenes in most cases. If I could name 4 women who really enjoy pussy it would be Adriana C. Megan R. Lena Paul and Ivy. If you gave any of those 4 their choice of female partner, it would be a solid scene.
^ I definitely disagree with the "lesbian porn isn't real" statement. I'd say that more girls get into the industry to explore more of their sexuality especially when it comes to getting with other girls. I've heard plenty of times where a girl would say it's hard to go pick up another girl in a bar or something and bring her back to home and have a great night. Thus getting into the industry allows them to get with girls and have fun and it being a safe environment.
You can't tell me that women like Abella Danger (whom actually was in a real relationship with a female), Cherie DeVille, Kenna James (whom actually dated females before she got into the industry), Prinzzess (who dated a girl in porn named Renee Perez, then that girl left and the Prinzzess started dating India Summer), Bree Daniels (dated at one point Ashlyn Molloy), Madison Ivy (dated Heather Starlet), Sinn Sage, Abigail Mac, Angela White, and you mentioned Adriana (who dated Megan Rain and before then it was Karmen Karma). I could go on and on but it's ridiculous to say that all the performers or just about all of them truly aren't into each other thus lesbian sex isn't real.
I get it that there are girls who are "gay 4 pay" and in lesbian porn you don't get a "cumshot" like you do in BG to visually see but to say lesbian porn is not real is just dismissing all the women in the industry who truly love women. I listened to Magdalene in a podcast and she talked about how she dated women before she got into the industry and she loved to look at magazines with girls with huge tits no matter if they were real or not and just get so turned on by it. So much so that even her husband knows how much she loves to see women huge breasts and she loves to kissing other women. Her chemistry with Cindy Craves she said is off the charts. The scenes she had with her she said is easily her best scenes. They hooked up before they even shot mainstream scenes together for Girlfriends Films bc they met at this party and then Cindy invited her to her place afterwards to have some fun.
Again I can go on and on. Go listen to the interview Lacy Lennon had with Prinzzess for Girlfriends Films or go listen to the interview Elexis Monroe had with Brandi Love for Girlfriends Films. Both for the Lesbian Sex series. They both talked about their experiences with women that wasn't industry related. Like a lot of these performers aren't just hooking up with girls on camera just for the money and it not being real interest. Again they truly are into women and they want to make the experience real. So idk where this notion of lesbian sex isn't real assuming women in general aren't truly into each other. It's not true.
^ If that's what was meant then I can agree with most studios like that. I know I talked to one performer and she told me that when she shot for a studio the director was telling her how to eat that other girl pussy. Now this performer is literally a lesbian legend like one of the best. She didn't need any direction on how to go down on the girl. Needless to say it was the last time she was booked for that studio. If you want to know who the girl was and the studio dm and I'll tell you full details.
Point is yes there are those studios who has it all wrong with lesbian porn from storylines, the constant use of toys, lack of kissing, and getting the wrong performers to shoot in scenes. But there are other studios who get lesbian porn right where I do come away blown away thinking this is what lesbian sex is and you can tell it on the girls face and body language. Not to mention on social media they are gushing about the scene. I remember one guy on social media tried to say how Kenna James really isn't into girls and I and I think others mentioned the scene Kenna did with Kenzie Reeves for AllHerLuv. Kenzie commented how great that scene was with Kenna and how they was still going at it once the camera stopped rolling. And I honestly believe her bc AllHerLuv is one studio that allows for the girls to truly be themselves when it comes to exploring each other and the sex seems so natural and authentic.
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Posted - Dec 22 2021 : 3:39PM
Hey lesbian porn are still being shot by mostly men, so what do they know? If Kenna doesn't really like girls well she's definitely a great actress. That performer you talked about who is a veteran in gg and she didn't say anything to this director well that's her fault. I don't any director will tell Nina Hartley how to eat pussy.
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Posted - Dec 22 2021 : 3:53PM
Lesbian porn is a fantasy not reality. The sex is real though. Would you really watch real l lesbian have sex? unless they look like a super model or what we used to call lipstick lesbian. Do you really want to see to full butch lesbian in Girlfriends Films?
^^ I think more and more females are starting to direct. Casey Calvert, Whitney Wright, Jacky St. James, Holly Randall, Joanna Angel, and Kayden Kross all come to mind.
As for the performer I'm talking about, it's not her place to tell the director anything. She is there to shoot and produce the best possible scene but it falls on the director to put the performers in great position to make the scene great. I've never heard of a performer tell the director they are going to do the scene the way they want to do it even though the director doesn't want it to be done that way and the performer does what she want to do regardless. Even Adriana Chechik told a story how her worst scene was when it was a B/G scene and the director told her not to swallow the cum so she didn't. She felt horrible and when her fans told her about how disappointed they was in her bc she usually swallows cum she was like never again will she allow that to happen and she didn't. I'm sure she never shot with that director again.
So I don't blame the performer for just feeling some type of way when the director told her how she was supposed to go down on the other girl thus she was never booked with that studio again. I know it wasn't with the director who currently directs with the studio now bc she wouldn't do that with her performers. She let them be themselves. To your notion it had to be a male director back then although this performer couldn't remember who this director was bc it was back like 2013.
I said most of these directors are men, prove me wrong. If she's been in the industry that long or you may consider a legend she should of told him I know how to do my job.
^ I think performers are also told not to come in and tell directors things like that. I think one performer talked about how when she first started she understood things like camera angles and stuff like that so when she would shoot she would tell the director points on how to shoot certain positions and her agent told her to stop doing it bc it's literally coming across as intimidating the director who has been in the industry longer than her even though she literally went to school and had knowledge of what she was talking about.
I do agree though if I was an experienced performer I'd tell the director I know what I'm doing but again the performer is the one getting booked by that director for that particular studio so that is the understood thing to mainly listen and do what the director want to be done. That's why some studios frustrate me bc the performers are great but the studio has no idea how to use them and as a result the scenes usually are lacking and I feel like it's a waste. I don't blame the performers as much as I blame the director and studio.
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You just prove my point. New starlets are not going to say anything, legendary or experienced performers should. Don't some studios let porn stars choose who they want to work with. Studios who cares about their reputations, the performers and their employers and most importantly their fans they will listen because outside critique is very important and good business. Good example, Girlfriends Films, Viv Thomas, Sweetheart Videos etc.
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Posted - Dec 22 2021 : 7:11PM
Females directing doesn't fix anything. Color Purple tells the black woman story better than any Spike Lee film. Some female talent may be in or have been in relationships with women, but that doesn't qualify them as good directors or storytellers.
Since I'm commenting, I read this whole thread. There's so much to unpack here, I can't even begin. But I will say this:
1. I have encountered so much variation in fan preference re: g/g scenes. Way more than b/g. It's impossible to please everyone.
2. Like so much in porn these days, analytics are a huge part of what gets shot, and how. I'm incredibly lucky that I get to shoot what (and how) I want at Lust Cinema, but that's not the norm for most directors. There's so much criticism directed at performers and directors here in this thread, when it should be directed at the people sitting in offices at the different companies.
3. I will agree that girls who aren't into girls should not take g/g scenes. However, some of the g/g performer of the year winners definitely do not like girls, so... y'all often can't tell.
It's nice to notice that some industry insiders are reading these threads. I think this thread has moved in all sorts of directions, but the main point of OP had a lot to do with the increasing lack of visuals in favor of story and chemistry.
For people who are fans of chemistry/buildup (AllHerLuv, Bellessa, etc...) it's been rough, but for us more "visual" fans, rough would be a severe understatement. I know the industry is on the ropes, but it would be nice to see some studios find more ways to appeal to the "visually" inclined.
Cheers,
Doobie
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Thanks for dropping in Casey!
As for some for some GG Performer winners and same-sex attraction...I SWEAR to you some of us CAN tell. Lol ;)
I was definitely talking about you Casey lol. You talked about it on Holly Randall podcast. I will pound the table that your work that you do for Lust Cinema in terms of directing is on point when it comes to G/G scenes. I do know about some of the girls who won G/G performer of the year isnt really into girls. The award season is really about politics so we see those who are less than deserving win rather than those who truly deserve it win.
I agree that you as a director and even a performer can't please everyone. Everyone has their preference on what a scene should be like but I don't think lesbian genre has fallen off like many have think especially when I see directors such as yourself know exactly what it takes to make a great scene and let the performers be themselves. Btw I appreciate you dropping in and giving your opinion on this topic.
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In my last reply I didn't mean to suggest that the current state of lesbian porn is bad, it's just starting to regress back to when it wasn't that hot. Much like LegalPorno, AnalOnly, etc, the scenes have become too predictable, too paint by numbers. Tease, following by kissing and tit fondling, a little tit sucking, then take turns going down on each other. No variation. No sexy dialogue. It seems like they are using the same formula scene after scene. I just think they need to mix things up a bit so that each scene isn't exactly like the last lesbian scene you watched. And today there's a perfect opportunity. I think the girls are on average hotter than they've ever been. There's potential for great scenes.
I don't want to negatively critique some of the sites but I'll be honest I'm not into Abbywinters because I do want the fantasy of lesbian porn. I Want lipstick lesbians.
I don't mind story but it's not my jam. I think GF films casts girls that seem like they're into girls, I can care less if the girl really likes girls or not they're acting. Good or bad acting to me doesn't matter I'm just not interested in extreme. Over the top yelling or shaking or dildo stabbing is redemable if the scene is shot well in my opinion. I think Evilangel and Everythingbutt has some of the best lesbian porn but they loose me with the harder core it gets. Spiting, slapping, sodomizing, extreme toys, piss, submission, stuff that looks like it hurts lol.
I don't mind toys or straps but if I wanted to see that I'd watch b/g. Especially straps.
Never got turned on by a woman pissing.
I want to see sensual, sexy women. I want to see beautiful girls wearing sexy outfits. Did I mention I want the fantasy. Good camera work to me is close ups with angles on the action not a head between legs or a woman's eyes peering above a pussy we don't see. I like kissing. I like appreciating titties. Slayed looks great but I haven't committed just give me a good scene not a music video. Lesbian porn rarely actually visually appreciates the women. If it does the scene is soft I'd get harder with a national geographic. Nice asses, or longs legs are good in lesbian porn. Don't mind tweaking or solo masturbating. Whatever just tired of cliches. Like big black lady and tiny white girl or lame stories. I can gmistreating. And please no more bathroom or shower scenes lol.
I don't know about this. G/G porn exploded over the last 15~ years on the backs of the content GFF and early SHV were putting out. There's a rather direct correlation, IMO. Not many cared for G/G before that because most of it was the same fake crap that we're seeing a lot of today. I don't know if companies like GirlsWay exist today without the work those studios put in propelling G/G porn to the mainstream.
Maybe it's the loud minority on twitter that's obsessed with seeing girls take 8 cocks in their ass at once while getting pissed on and telling their "favorite" starlet that they're going to stop paying for her content unless she gets X plastic surgery that you're thinking of. Really don't know much stock to put into these types of opinions.
Can't disagree here. If whoever is doing the casting wants to do a scene between two "flavor of the month" girls, neither of whom are genuinely into other girls, you can only do so much.
Again, not sure how much stock you can put into these things.
In the 00's Jenna Jameson won G/G AVN awards.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but performers like Prinzzess, Magdalene, Samantha Ryan, Elexis Monroe, Sinn Sage, etc. have never won a G/G AVN award. So that pretty much tells the story.
The reason why lesbian porn is starting to suck again? Same reason why it sucked before GFF put real lesbian porn on the map: it's made by people who seemingly have no clue what arouses a woman or what it is looks like when a woman is genuinely aroused, made for people who similarly have no clue.
Recently I came across a G/G scene that featured Ariella Ferrera & Reagan Foxx & oil. On paper, this could be an epic scene (especially if you're into MILFs), but unfortunately it was made by Brazzers; it started off with the two in some strange stationary bike competition in a cold wooden room. They then lightly kissed for a few seconds and then got on the floor and started fake scissoring and rubbing each other with their feet. lol okay? Ariella Ferrera is such a hot, passionate, genuine performer, all you had to do was say "Ariella, here's a bed. You're the dom, you have 30-45 minutes. Give us at least 10 minutes of sensual foreplay then do whatever feels right" and you would probably end up with a great scene without even trying.
It's really not rocket science but again, the current producers have no clue.
What I personally like in G/G scenes is the two girls genuinely enjoying each other and making each other orgasm (for real). For this to occur, the girls have to be allowed to feel comfortable so that they can forget the cameras are there are get into it with their partner. If you're constantly interrupting the action so that the girls can drop some awkward storyline dialogue or find the next toy to use, it's likely not going to happen.
It's easy for B/G scenes to be passable with little effort and lack of quality direction. All you need is for the guy to stay hard and cum at the end. G/G scenes require the director to have at least some level of knowledge when it comes to female arousal.
Also, as for the gender of the director, I don't think it really matters. Generally, I would think a girl (who is genuinely into other girls or at least G/G porn) would be the best fit but it's not mandatory... remember that Dan was the man behind GFF.
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Posted - Dec 23 2021 : 12:31PM
Such a great summary of the issue. GFF is really into that whole "constantly interrupting the action so the girls can drop some awkward storyline dialogue" thing these days and you rarely think the performers are actually getting off in GFF scenes now. Sad to see. He overscripts the sex too.
All the sites today, with the exception of VivThomas, and most times AllHerLuv, want to give us goofy comedy and bad cartoonish sex almost exclusively. It's extremely rare to get passionate, sexy, sultry, ADULT girl-girl scenes. I blame Girlsway.