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12ccs
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Posted - Aug 10 2010 : 3:03PM
Producers: it would be great to see a fresh new style for creampie flicks, based on just two or three changes:
1) Guy(s) come to the party FULLY loaded..
2) Guys shoot DEEP and keep fucking
3) Guys be be more verbal, tremors
For #1, break with tradition and REQURE the guys being fully loaded:
-They pop EARLY which is GOOD - it shows real release of animal tension and flatters the hell out of the girl (big load, fast pop).
-Guy can still have enough load left to try for a second pop, which make the flick hotter AND adds to the guys favorable reputation with viewers.
-Even if there is only one pop, producer has OPTION to edit the pop to appear at the end of of the scene, that is, if the guys can resume with the girl after popping (they are pros so they CAN).
-Creampie vids always show the girl dripping; and a massive load is MUCH better than a weak one.
For #2, if guys shoots deep:
-It's natural instinct if a super sexy girl is on birth control, to soak the deepest parts of her. It shows animal passion.
-When the girl drips afterwards, it will be much longer, slower drip, not one or two large gobs.
-If the guys keeps thrusting long and deep, him/her will get worked up to a messy froth, which if you like watching the drip, is also a pleasure to see. It also visibly blows the guys mind, like post cum head.
For #3, the guys should cum HARD, lots of animal grunting, tremors, and complimenting the girl's pussy. Brian Surewood might be a good example.
Remember being young, up all night with new girlfriends? Remembers one night stands with super sexy girls on the pill? There things are just good reality. Good spontaneous animal sex, not faked and choreographed out the ass, like so much is today.
ntfighter
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Posted - Aug 10 2010 : 7:03PM
Great suggestion. I'm not optimistic that some producer will run with it. They stick with the whatever the other producers are doing. We're still trying to get them not to cut to man-cum-face and man-jerking off.
Schmse
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Posted - Aug 11 2010 : 5:44AM
I agree with #1 and #2. In most american creampie movies i saw the guy is jerking himself off and the put the tip of his cock inside the pussy while cumming. Ridiculous!
But I'd disagree to #3. Thee male performers are just too verbal. Too much grunting and noises of men in porn. If I wanna hear grunting I'd go to a zoo.
Just a bit of moaning. That's enough and keeps it real...
Gentlehard
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Posted - Aug 11 2010 : 7:05AM
Great ideas and I would like to see more of it. I believe that a bona fide vaginal creampie is far sexier than anal.
The problem is that when a guy comes deep within a pussy, not much drips out and so there is the issue of whether or not he actually came. I remember a scene with Brook Banner when almost nothing came out.
Can anyone suggest DVDs that come close to the suggestion? They would be on my buy list.
Edited by - gentlehard on 8/11/2010 7:07:11 AM
Schmse
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Posted - Aug 11 2010 : 7:25AM
Not if it would be a guy like manuel Ferrara. Did he ever do a creampie scene anyways?
But your're correct. It doesn't have to drip out like a cascade, but you should see that the guy came inside.
I saw it in Japanese Videos from time to time, where they shove a little camera up the pussy to see the inside and cum, after the creampie. But that's not really a solution...
 
Jonny Jay All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 11 2010 : 7:54AM
Have to agree and not too keen about the tremors either but some good points though.
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Posted - Aug 11 2010 : 5:07PM
This is why the combination of #1 and #2 is so important.. if the guys comes to the party with so much anticipation that he can't HELP but pop in the first minute or two, a full load (made in a under a day or two's teasing) no matter how deep, will be more watery and drip out much better than the guy who yanked.
And probably most CP fans agree that a watery load flatters the girl more, than boring week or clumpy.
There's the energy it adds.. when fully loaded, it's natural to vigorously fuck hard and deep, which makes it much hotter to watch happen.
I'd amend my org statement to say that #3 should only happen naturally, not be acted.. I agree too much by the guy distracts from the girl. BUT, if the guy is visibly shaken, that flatters the girl -- and the girls who are still having fun at this, smile ear to ear when they see the effect their pussy has on a guy.
Edited by - 12ccs on 8/11/2010 5:09:55 PM
Edited by - 12ccs on 8/11/2010 5:22:13 PM
billywatson
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Posted - Aug 11 2010 : 5:43PM
LOL. That ain't gonna happen.
I wish some fans would come here and try to shoot so they'd know what the real deal is...
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Posted - Aug 11 2010 : 5:58PM
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Posted - Aug 11 2010 : 7:04PM
You didn't seem to give any detail, so I'll guess its one of these:
-The girls you film (presuming you do) don't let the guys shoot real loads, and resort to fake fluids
-Guys are petrified that the girl is not really on birth control (understandable given history of some girls; maybe just make her show evidence she is?)
-The guys insist they have to jaq before the show, or wont seem "studly" if they pop fast.
-Guys wont be able to return to salutation if they pop too fast.
-The guys already ARE bring their biggest load, small as it might seem to the rest of us, lol (humor me).
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Posted - Aug 11 2010 : 9:53PM
There's a classic scene where this happens with Noname Jane (f/k/a Violet Blue) in I've Never Done That Before #1 (IAFD, ADT, and also as part of this box set).
ntfighter
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Posted - Aug 12 2010 : 1:40PM
@billywatson. Porn is difficult. We got it. I can't help but think the difficulty is in of the porn shooting culture you guys have developed.
In another thread you noted that it's difficult for porn stud to cum given the normal stimulation of a sexy women and a hot hole. iirc you mentioned it's because they fuck constantly and become jaded. If I'm understanding you correctly that seems directly relate to the problem being discussed here, contrived cream-pie where the guy has to jerk off, or the imperative yo shows the drip.
The problem is then the studs. If so the criteria used to hire porn studs is awry. Or maybe the method of shooting porn is flawed. I know about the lights. the crowd, the frequent stop and starts. Trim all that you can. Give the actor a comfortable set, hire studs who are horny and want to fuck. Back off the direction as much as possible. We never communicated to the industry that we needed to see dripping cum from each and every instance. That's folklore that grew up in the porn culture. I'm sure we would be happy with a variety of different cream pies ending. It would be fine if some of them are more like the ones we do in real life.
There is entirely to much man jerking himself off in porn.
12ccs
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Posted - Aug 12 2010 : 3:20PM
Very well put. For me (I'd bet most guys) it's not about the guys getting off, its about the girl, and how much she MAKES him want to fuck her and MAKES him get off. Natural passion and animal instict. The guy's pop is not the climax - its how *naturally* the girl gets it. The guy's pop is nothing more than icing on the girls cake (or between the layers) - the more naturally it is delivered, it flatters her and proves she is a real sex goddess.
And THIS then makes the girl enjoy herself more, we see her smile (keep her face in-frame when she receives!!!), and she has even more fun using her power on the next guy. A vicously good cycle.
All the females I've watched flicks with agree with this, they want to see a guy's mind being blown, by his insatiable appetite for a girl.
But status quo... I'm not surprised we lose good girls (or their energy through time) because of all the fake stuff they or the studs are made to do.
Breeze
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Posted - Aug 13 2010 : 1:55AM
I am in the same boat, I don't mind watching porn, but the ones I pick up suck. When we rent cream pie movies the girls in them appear to rather be somewhere else and the guy operating the camera is saying "Oooh baby, make it drip" and the girl looks confused more than satisfied. I am horrible at picking out porn flicks. Can't porn guys blow thier load while fucking? Some in deep, pull it out while still cumming and ram it back in?
Maybe I'm in the wrong career field. But I do that to my g/f. Fuck, I can even pinch myself off and pop some cum in her mouth.
After I finish unloading on her lips we like to 69.
Her sucking my cum covered cock and me eating her dripping wet pussy. Then after I am all cleaned off I finger fuck her, and I stick my fingers in her mouth while we kiss and taste "US."
We enjoy it.
Turns us on a lot.
I'm getting turned on writing this.


Jaktarn
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Posted - Aug 13 2010 : 4:49AM
Might be the best thread in a long while! The producer/director that puts out a series/site with this theme will have me all over it!
Edited by - jaktarn on 8/13/2010 4:50:16 AM
 
Gentlehard
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Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 9:42AM
As I said before, when a guy cums deep, not much comes out.
You seem to be looking for real sex on video, and one of the best scenes that I have seen like that was in Tie Me Up Tie Me Down where Antonio Banderas makes love to Jean Abril, in the sexiest scene that I have ever seen in legit or porn. Very much along the lines you suggest. Of course the scene was fake.
Another real problem is that the most comfortable way for a guy to hump is missionary style, but all you see there is some guy's ass bouncing up and down. As a result in most creampie vids the guy is either standing or the girl is in reverse cowgirl. You see the action and the moment of orgasm, but it is really unnatural. Try it if you don't believe me.
The fact of the matter is there are more stars doing anal and even anal creampies than vaginal ones, which is strange. On the vaginal honor roll are Julie Silver, Jane Darling, Natasha Nice, Alexis Silver,Sara Stone, Kristi Klentot, Darina and Amy Reid.
For anal and vaginal creampies, the series A Load in Every Hole is a good one, though the creampies are sequential and not simultaneous. Volume 13 is good because it has Simone Style one of the prettiest and sluttiest stars ever.
POV Pervert 8 is also really good in which Mike John gives Natasha Nice and Alexis Silver huge vaginal creampies and continues fucking.
Another interesting vaginal creampie vid is Big Black Lil Pink 3. In that Dvd Franco Rocceforte shoots a wad of semen from a foot away into Liz's gaping pussy. That is the only time that I have seen that.
Some material from before I got banned from posting pics
Natasha Nice
Natasha Cupping Tits.JPG
Natasha back.JPG
And just about to receive a new set of genes . . .
Natasha Eyes.JPG
Kristi Klentot
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Kristi Tit Bounce.JPG
About to receive her blessing . . .
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Here is Amy Reid in Creamy on the Inside. Look at her expression of anticipation of an unwanted pregnancy . . . Such a nice girl.
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Amy CREAMY_ON_THE_INSIDE-5.jpg

Edited by - gentlehard on 8/14/2010 9:55:14 AM

buckaroo
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Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 2:47PM
Jewel De'Nyle did it in Sluts of the Nyle 3
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buckaroo
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Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 3:09PM
thread starter you should see Ashley Blue's scene in Internal Cumbustion 1. It is exactly what you are after
Jaktarn
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Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 5:15PM
Thanxs for all suggestions!
TedtheBellhop
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Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 7:45PM
I definitely agree with the OP on #1&2. Although I like the "froth" that develops from multiple creampies without cleanup. Those are very tough to find.
ekarth
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Posted - Aug 15 2010 : 2:02AM
your suggestions are good but only Japanese producers will care to implement it as American porno producerss consider creampie as a sin and TABOO!!
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Posted - Aug 15 2010 : 11:43PM
Why would I care if the guy cums? I'm stroking my dick, not his. The only orgasm on the screen that matters is the woman's. The guy's job is fuck until she's done and then crawl back under his rock.
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Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 1:47AM
^I think it's quite important to most of the viewers. Why is it called "money shot"?
i don't wanna have the guys face on screen before he cums (many vids). But to end a scene before the cumshot wouldn't sell. Believe me. Maybe you're one of the few who don't want to see it. But I expect a guy to cum n a scene.
NicaNoelle
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Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 2:11AM
This thread is incredible!
I'm actually moving in the direction where I'm going to specialize in cream pies at Sweet Sinner (my article on the importance of them is in the current All Sex issue of Hustler magazine) and this thread is invaluable to me. As for the unlikelihood of producers/directors listening to your requests: I assure you, I'm listening! I agree with A LOT of these ideas and it's very exciting to see fellow cream pie lovers demanding better scenes. Ask and you shall receive!
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Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 2:16AM
Nica! This is great! Thank you!
 
Breeze
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Posted - Aug 17 2010 : 4:02AM
They are tough to find and I am ONLY going to say good things about Vince Voyeur.
I recently introduced a girl to porn and we watched part of Cumdrippers 2 this weekend. She got really turned on during the first scene when the first guy blew his load inside her and the second guy fucked her and we could see his cum on the second guys cock.
That was cool.
We didn't finish watching the whole movie so not much more to say.

Gentlehard
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Posted - Aug 20 2010 : 10:21AM
From of my postings on Most Beautiful Face, Best Natural Tits and ATM:
Amy Reid in Internal Injections, one of the best vaginal creampie DVDs of all . . .
Amy a II-44.jpg
Amy b II-17.jpg
Amy at the moment of truth.
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And what is the truth? That she is being impregnated by Manuel Ferraro with enough sperm to keep a sperm bank in business for a year.
NicaNoelle
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Posted - Aug 20 2010 : 10:27AM
Was the body language intimate though? I mean, was he sort of STANDING over her at an angle, that weird "opening up for the camera" position? I HATE that. What's the good of a creampie if the performers bodies are like two feet away from each other and they're just joined at the genitals?
Gentlehard
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Posted - Aug 20 2010 : 12:27PM
^You are of course correct, but the best position for real intimate love making is missionary. Then all you see is some guy's hairy ass boucing on top of the woman whose body is completely covered. The above capture is probably the best compromise for creampie vids.
12ccs
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Posted - Aug 20 2010 : 12:51PM
Actually I'd say it one of the better position for video -- not of his ass -- but instead put the camera at both their POVs, looking from their heads down to the connecting-point. Its a great way to see and appreciate her body.
Gentlehard
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Posted - Aug 21 2010 : 11:10AM
^Would love to see a scene like that! Was one ever filmed. Since a professional video cam is about a foot long, it would be technically challenging.
A really good creampie DVD is A Load in Every Hole.
None of the scenes have the sort of positioning discussed on this thread, but the women look great, it is humourous and the creampies are all real.
Appearing in this DVD is Mandy Bright who when younger was totally perfect.
I created a tribute to Mandy of captures from that DVD on EBI.
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ntfighter
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Posted - Aug 21 2010 : 1:37PM
OMG, sobbing uncontrollably, someone who can make a difference agrees with me. I'm sorry, I'm sorry it's just that it's been so long, I've said it over and over. Open for the camera sucks the life out of a scene. The positions are pornified. No one has sex like that except porn stars on camera.
Edited by - ntfighter on 8/21/2010 5:46:13 PM
Gentlehard
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Posted - Aug 21 2010 : 5:25PM
Eurobabe Index just changed their rules for access to their forum so looks like getting the Mandy Bright pics won't be easy. Sorry. There goes another site.
Update -- Eurobabe Index appears to up and running the way it used to.
Edited by - gentlehard on 8/23/2010 6:05:21 AM
12ccs
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Posted - Aug 24 2010 : 11:37AM
Huh? The ms and I do this all the time, its more conducive to vigorous animal banging. Girls likes to see the visual of his abs and arms when she's getting worked on, as much as he likes looking down at her hourglass figure, breasts tummy and hips.
Body to body (skin to skin) is better for slow "love" scenes, where theres not as much unbridled lust (somewhat more boring to me).
Besides, if mish is only good when they are both skin to skin, then does that makes all the other positions not film worthy fun? Doggy creampies, when she turns around to smile at him, while he thrusts the spasms deep?
Let them creampie while open, then collapse into each other, you still get the same sense of love-after-lust.
BgDgKnt
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Posted - Aug 24 2010 : 6:40PM
Speaking of multi pops. Has anyone seen anything with two girls and one guy where he creampies both of them. I know Tyce Bune has been known to do this, but is there anyone else?
 
ntfighter
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Posted - Aug 24 2010 : 6:49PM
It isn't all or nothing one or the other. How about a little variety. Some movies would work fine as you suggest. Not each and every one. The jerk off at the edge of the pussy and the long distance fucking has had it's day. Time to try something different. Mix it up.
NicaNoelle
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Posted - Aug 24 2010 : 7:48PM
Ntfighter, I'll be your savior! LOL But if you can, check out the creampie scene between Michelle Lay and Alan Stafford in Stepmother #3 (Sweet Sinner) and let me know if that comes closer to the mark for you. And if it doesn't, tell me what it was missing.
I agree - opening up for the camera is lame. It looks lame, and it FEELS lame to not be able to grab your partner, kiss them, look into their eyes. The body language is ALL WRONG when guys are forced to open for the camera, and there's just no way around it. You CAN get the hardcore shot without opening up. I do it all the time. It might not be five minutes straight of that clinical, gynocological shot, but I'm not interested in doing that. You don't have to show that every single frame, not if it means losing all the other realism in the scene. There's a dearth of REAL sex positions in xxx films.
ntfighter
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Posted - Aug 24 2010 : 9:15PM
Stepmother #3 (Sweet Sinner)I'm om it. (still sobbing uncontrollably now joyfully joy) BBBBless you.
Giorgio_86
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Posted - Sep 2 2010 : 2:38PM
Dear NicaNoelle,
Any chance of you filming a creampie scene with the marvelous Dyanna Lauren?
Bye
NicaNoelle
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Posted - Sep 2 2010 : 2:57PM
I believe she would probably be willing to do a creampie with her partner Nick Manning, but I'll have to ask to make sure.
Awesome idea!! Dyanna is really incredible.
NicaNoelle
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Posted - Sep 2 2010 : 3:00PM
By the way, just shot two more creampie scenes for my upcoming Sweet Sinner release "Office Seductions - Naked Ambition." The pairings are Melissa Monet and Anthony Rosano, and Jynx Maze with Rocco Reed.
It was hard to see a lot in the Melissa/Anthony scene - they were fucking on a desk and he shot in her deep. By the time he pulled out her pussy was soaking wet but I don't know how much "cream" could be seen. However, it was an authentic internal pop (some of his cum was actually on the desk). For Rocco and Jynx though, you can definitely see the cream.
ntfighter
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Posted - Sep 2 2010 : 3:19PM
Sorry I had to edit the post. I had the scene identification wrong, and because I want other fans to watch this movie I hope I got it right this time.
NicaNoelle, thank you. The sex in this movie is "HOT". Michelle Lay someone I've never seen before is "HOT". The sex is passionate and real. The scene that got to me is with Sara Stone. When they were in spoon the camera pulled back so that we can admire her entire lush body as she pumped her hip, that right I said she pumped her hips in rhythm to meet his thrusts. There are people fucking in this movie.
Rather then the standard perfunctory obviously ordered by the director breast grab. As his climax approached he began clutching and squeezing her big bouncing breast and that is as far as I have managed to watch it. I'm forced to admit I FF through the first scenes, I'm not a fan of Lisa Ann or Randy Spears, but on the recommendation of the scene I watched I'll certainly go back watch and and give them a look.
Good work . I'm pulling for your success. I knew it would happen The first new direction is porn since the Golden Age.

Edited by - ntfighter on 9/2/2010 3:46:00 PM

NicaNoelle
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Posted - Sep 2 2010 : 3:25PM
Your post just made my day. Thank you SO MUCH for watching and commenting and supporting and giving me your time. I can't tell you how much it means to me. THANK YOU. I'll continue to try to please! ;-)
dlhardin
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Posted - Sep 3 2010 : 12:52AM
OMFG Why wasn't I aware of this!? Jewel you nasty girl! :) Now just throw Peter into that scene at the very end to cover her face for good measure, that would be awesome.
BgDgKnt
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Posted - Oct 9 2010 : 6:42PM
seriously, it's impossible to find a MFF double cream pie scene where both girls get creamed. Does anyone know of anything life what I just described?
TedtheBellhop
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Posted - Oct 11 2010 : 10:31AM
Any chance she will want to try that for real?
goodblood42
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Posted - Nov 1 2010 : 3:50PM
I love the double creampie (anal and vag) that Claudia Ferrari gets in some All Internal production from April 2006. Would love to score that on DVD. Anybody know what the title might be (it's not been released under the "All Internal" series as far as I can tell).
TedtheBellhop
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bissy
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Nikki Sexx is superhot !!!!
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Posted - Feb 26 2012 : 2:36AM
After the reco....saw your scene from Stepmother 3....and Nica ...it was just what i like...
E_i_T
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Posted - Feb 26 2012 : 5:35AM
I'd LOVE to see #1 & #2 in a porn
Hoya
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Posted - Mar 6 2012 : 4:36AM
Turned into a weakpie.
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