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shameless
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1/03
Posted - Nov 13 2003 : 10:01PM
Not being able to sleep thinking of tomorrows casting sessions here, I found 2 quotes from ADT-talkers that really sum up part of the moral dilemma I put myself into during the last few months. I am the proud manager/<owner> of 50+ pussies and 50+ poopers ready for porn sets, but I will also help to produce cheap porn for porn fans like these 2 (or 1?):
Yes, I have PardonMP! And: Go away you selfish Western egoist, Druber!

But there are much more PardonMP and Drubers out in the porn consumer world. And that really gets me thinking. Yes, I do help these Ukrainian girls to earn a decent liveing, yes I do get me lots of fun for free and lots of money with just my hobby, but do I really want to deliver cheap porn-fodder for selfish, un-caring, absolutely cynic porn end consumers shoping for porn bargains only probabely?!
I want to get the demanding porn fan what he asks for, I want to shell out my fresh faces in an ever demanding more and younger girls 18+ market. I want to get rich selling Ukrainian pussy to Western porn producers. I want to produce my own porn and push the barrel with 100% DAP action and more un-PC settings like fake-rape and such. I want to spread the fame of true Slavic beauty.
But this? - Druber and Pardon really make me shiver. From tomorrow onwards I will try to become a good businessman. And only that. I will try!
(Why cant I just think only with my cock and my wallet?!)


Edited by Shameless because maybe I saw this too negative this night. Most ADT-talkers do really care about the talent they watch...and what the others do I never will learn about anyway. And most important is just to give all customers a good time, IMO. Or: As Cal444 says it in all his wisdome in another tread: <The standard by which a pornographer should be judged is, does the content put enough lead in your pencil to pop a load. Pure and simple.>


Edited by - Shameless on Nov 14 2003

2Big
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200 Posts
4/03
Posted - Nov 14 2003 : 12:32PM
Shameless:

there is something I don't understand about you: if indeed you have all these hotties ready to get fucked on camera, what's stopping you from picking up a camcorder, shooting the girls yourself, then posting movies and clips on a website?

Basically, all I'm seeing is a lot of talk on your part (to be sure, much of it is entertaining). Find a couple of Russian studs and get cracking. You can market this material as "high grade amateur" stuff, so nobody would expect the same shiny perfection they would from a Vivid flick.

But that can be your strength. So, please, stop teasing us with pictures; get entrepreneurial.

2Big

shameless
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Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Nov 14 2003 : 12:50PM
2Big, I just wanted to post you my <Self-inflicted neo-Colonialism>-tread to explain, but I see you posted there already all these months ago.

I tell you some reasons:
1. I dispise amateur productions. They bore me, so why should I produce something I dont like myself?

2. Producing your own films and than distributing them from here is a very difficult task involving a lot of money, contacts, a reliable postal service, good connections with the customs office etc. (in this field Russia is not the US!)

3. Also profit from such an action would be quite small I am afraid.

4. PROFIT as an agent selling his <fresh porn meat> to producers working with Western porn budgets, on the other hand, are much much higher. Just immagine that I pay near to nothing recruiting 10 girls willing to do porn (well some advertizement fee, some rental for my Kiev suite...but that's not much in the end), but each 1 of these girls can earn me up to 600$ per day in commission fees only!
As a means to get rich quite easily and still secure porn to be produced I LIKE TO WATCH AS WELL, an running an adult agency here is much better.


Edited by - Shameless on 11/14/2003 3:09:25 PM

2Big
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200 Posts
4/03
Posted - Nov 14 2003 : 3:13PM
See, but these are precisely your strenghts! Why not capitalize on the fact that your girls are NOT these overexposed professionals, who have been in 100s of scenes?

Film these girls in their natural habitat - in cafes, clubs, at college, then find a few studs to fuck them silly. Cut the material and post it on a website, and charge people to access the materials.

IOW, be proactive rather than waiting for some Western porn production to fly in and rent your girls.

It's novelty that matters much more than polished production values. Take a look at some early work by Ed Powers and Rodney Moore for inspirations.

You could be the Russian king of Gonzo.
2Big

shameless
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Moscow
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1/03
Posted - Nov 14 2003 : 3:33PM
2Big, thanks a lot for your support, criticism and ideas!

See, I have already created together with my brother the core of an own Video Production Studio in Moscow. You can check it on my website. True, appart from that <Streets of Moscow> series about genuin street walkers I have not planned any amateur porn. <Street Walkers> we start shooting in December with Russian technical operators. I think based on our experice with this, we might start to produce other new stuff not yet outlined on our website.
Personally, I am really against amateur stuff. I simply dont enjoy it! But your reasoning about novelty is good! Walk around with them at colledge, show them strolling around town and than have them fucked silly on a not so common, interesting location sounds like fun to script and film. Maybe, if our Kiev girls are not fully booked out, why not? Maybe, we just recruit new fresh faces in Moscow? I dont know yet, but I will think it over.

Basically, still I aim at supplying big US companies like RLD with fresh Kiev porn meat. I really adore some RLD- and other directors for years now. It may sond silly to you, but me, I really will be proud to have my girls work in their films. Maybe its a bit like a groupie thing...but it surely earns me some good money.

I really appreciate all imput! Shameless&Shameless Moscow + Kiev


Edited by - Shameless on 11/14/2003 3:45:42 PM

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