Poor zoocoprophagiophiles, they'll have to make do with watching beautiful women swallowing animal poop on fear factor. ________________________________________________ Please ID these girls from PlayboyTV's Foursome show Edited by - hoochimama on 7/11/2014 2:44:23 PM
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 11 2014 : 11:28AM
Yet, 2000 was the golden age of gonzo porn as I recall. In 2000, you could find everything from girls vomiting on dicks to girls swallowing men's piss, and just about anything else you wanted to find. So I wouldn't exactly say that American Express really had an effect on anything. People were apparently still buying it. Again, all this stuff didn't start disappearing until (1) Max Hardcore went to jail, and (2) People started getting porn for free. Thus, these two factors appear to have more to do with the sterilization of porn than anything having to do with credit cards.
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Bob Cobb Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 11 2014 : 2:12PM
^ Pump the brakes. The fact that you can't easily find girls puking, getting pissed on, shit on, and having their insides visibly pushed out means porn has become "sterile"? Scenes that extreme are just a tiny (thank God) part of gonzo porn; it isn't the definition of gonzo porn. You attribute the lack of this partially to Max Hardcore getting busted and porn piracy. Maybe some producers are just becoming more responsible and taking more pride in their product?
I always find amusing how so many people is so much happy to see anybody's else fetish outlawed but of course not their own , they're "normal" . I personally don't like extreme sex , but I never asked to shut down any site whose content I don't like. The only thing I really can't tolerate are abuses , and I don't mean role played abuses such in BDSM but actual abuses like going on when the girl is obviously in real pain or too wasted to realize she's getting hurt. As for KINK, actually it's tamed,in the BDSM market there were European productions mostly British and German with men having their scrotum nailed to a table , or having their dick pierced with needles , same for tits (nails or needles) or labia. or the most common attaching heavy weights to the balls or tits or labia. Guys heavily kicked or stepped on their balls. And what about tits tied so tight they hanged the woman to a hook and then flogged her All legal , sold in videostores and you are complaining about kink? LOL, really.
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Posted - Jul 11 2014 : 5:09PM
^I think that what's behind a lot of the attacks on Kink and sites like them is the paternalistic attitude that some men - and in my experience these critics are mostly male - have towards womens sexuality. Here's the thinking: 1. No matter what anyone might say, women do not like rough sex. 2. Because women do not like rough sex, pornstars who appear in rough sex scenes are only doing so in order to survive in the industry. 3. Because pornstars would rather not have rough sex, the directors and producers of all such scenes are big bad wolves from whom these poor little girls need protection. 4. Therefore porn sites which feature rough sex are "bad" and should be shut down. These guys have good intentions and it's nice that they care, but their generalizations are ridiculous. Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/11/2014 5:09:58 PM
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Bob Cobb Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 11 2014 : 6:36PM
I don't know how the topic somehow shifted to Kink (I assume you're referring to the website Kink). Although I don't consider myself a fan of Kink I've watched their scenes and, for the most part, am OK with them. Prolapse is a whole other ballgame. These are injuries to internal organs. Even if the girl is ignorant enough to do such scenes despite the physical risks some of which are permanent that doesn't mean producers and directors should seek to shoot and distribute them. I think the intent of this thread was to forecast the next fetish in porn not to debate prolapse in and of itself.
Go ask Roxy Raye, Proxy Paige, Amy Brooke, Sarah Shevon and the dozen or so other girls doing them these days if they are in pain from it or have had surgery from it. If it was an injury they wouldn't continue to do it on a regular basis.
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Posted - Jul 11 2014 : 8:45PM
If you're into gay pron, tranny porn or watching girls play "Hey, look at me, I've got a strap-on and I'm shoving it in a guys ass because I'm a fucking little weirdo" then don't even fucking bother coming in this thread to complain about incest porn or prolapse porn.
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Bob Cobb Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 11 2014 : 11:52PM
^^ No thanks. It's not my job to educate them. http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/tc/rectal-prolapse-topic-overview http://jezebel.com/heres-the-dangerous-and-grotesque-anal-sex-trend-you-ve-1593038946 They haven't had any problems yet? Good for them. Kinda like drunk driving in your teens and 20s. We're young and invincible. We know its dangerous but, hell, we never wrecked before so we keep doing it and then, one day...KABOOM. The odds catch up with you. Hard to debate with those who still think this is safe to do and cool to watch so Imma peace out this thread. Lates...
It may have been the golden age of gonzo porn but not internet porn. In 2000 most people were still getting their porn fix the old fashion way. That is to say on VHS and DVD and not with a computer. The fact that Amex is such a pain for most vendors is probably a bigger problem than their refusal to deal with porn. Credit card companies might bitch and moan that they don't want to do business with porn but there is a lot of money to be made from allowing it's members to purchase said porn. These days not so much because porn is in serious trouble but I dare say Visa and MasterCard still make huge amounts of profits from allowing porn transactions.
I don't think it's safe , and I consider Ass to mouth very unhealthy, ass to other girl mouth even more , actually I consider unhealthy the exchange vagina to ass to vagina again , so... but we're talking of consenting adults in some cases well over 30 or even 40 who had been doing this for decades (Ever heard of Amazing Ty/Extreme Ty?) Also promiscuous sex is already dangerous by itself so actually to shut down anything with such concerns looks like a trojan horse and a key to overrule free will ,in fact since promiscuous sex is by itself already an health risk if you apply your reasoning to porn layer by layer they could shut it down completely. also I'm always puzzled , how is that all those studies about the extreme danger of "abnormal" sex acts always come out from the States? I'm not aware of any such result and concerns in Europe , also such studies are strangely most focused on women , especially those on anal sex which is incredibly risky ,but none of them say anything about MALE anal sex. My guess is they fear a crude reaction from the gay community who may provide actual researches and percentages and expose their bullshit. I still remember a link provided here about a "serious" study giving proof on the impossibility or so to bash the cervix because it moves away to give room to any given dick , looked even real, then I read their samples they used 14 (FOURTEEN) women of unrecorded ages and made a statistic on them. there's only a word fur such studies it's BULLSHIT. Any such studies must have a very carefully chosen statistic sample with different ages compared , a different sample to compare to and statistic based on the insurgence of health problems on subject who DON'T DO anything related only if there's a significant difference you can continue in order to define the risky behaviour and the specific cause of any problem they may find
Thats because this "research" is done for and by the right wing think tanks with a conclusion and they are grasping at straws to find any data that fits their already decided on conclusion and throw out anything that disproves it. For them all homosexual sex is bad and women can't have recreational sex at all and it's a sin for a woman to feel pleasure from sex of any kind. It's just the American Taliban at work again.
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 13 2014 : 2:57AM
You're right that such scenes were only a part of gonzo porn, not the whole definition of it. However, that part has disappeared, mainly leaving only the tame, vanilla, and yes, sterile porn that comprises the majority of the videos that are being produced today. Even the regular "vanilla" porn back then was more interesting than what's being produced today. The stuff that I'm seeing in porn now looks like it's just trying to bore people to death. Also, just because you dislike a product doesn't mean that the producers are irresponsible or don't take pride in the product.You hit the nail right on the head. It is obvious that most of these guys feel that these poor, helpless women in porn are incapable of making their own decisions and need a guardian to take them by the hand and tell them, "No No No, Don't do __________ because that's bad for you." These guys are worse than the big bad men in porn that they claim to be trying to protect these women from.Exactly, which is another reason that this whole credit card excuse doesn't sound right. Credit card companies are in business to make money. As long as they're getting money out of it, since when do they care what their customers buy?
Of course cc companies don't care, but what they do care about is the threat of being boycotted by the antiporn zealots. Even Google caved in to them and cut Adwords for all adult sites just recently. It's all part of the campaign to shut down all porn, they just started by targeting the "extreme" porn first, but if they get their way even Playboy will be shut down. Jacco
Forcing Banks to close bank accounts of pornstars because some customers have express concerns about what they do (meaning we will move our extremely large deposits to another Bank if you do nothing about it) is the other part of the attack, it is extremely effective , entire armies against one , they're taken one by one
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 14 2014 : 3:24AM
This is exactly why giving in to them at all is never a good idea. But in any case, what is the industry plan to deal with this? If what you say is true, and it's only a matter of time before credit card companies like VISA and MasterCard end transactions for porn site subscriptions altogether, then the porn industry must certainly have a back-up plan for this. Or will porn sites just continue to wave the white flag and go out of business, which is basically what you're saying they've been doing so far?
There is no "the industry", porn is not organised in any way. There are lots and lots of small companies and a few bigger ones, but real cooperation is rare. And most of them don't give a shit if it does not concern themselves directly. Jacco
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 14 2014 : 3:45AM
^Yes, I've noticed that. It is very unfortunate, and explains a lot why porn is in the dismal state it is now.
I don't like to take the side of banks on this one but is it possible that with so many porn performers now escorting that banks would rather not have to deal with money that comes from an illegal enterprise? I know on paper escorting is legal but we all know that a guy paying a 1000$ to meet his favorite porn girl isn't doing that to have a nice meal and go to the theater with her. It's good old prostitution with a new veneer.
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Posted - Jul 11 2014 : 10:28AM