They are legitimate. You are actually having your discussion with the big stars. We are not sugarcoating this stuff. The stars like it. Look at their faces in the videos. I am sure the fans like it too. The serial killer analogy is ridiculous. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not enjoyable. And yes human beings are always pushing the envelope. It's one of the defining characteristics of being a human. If we didn't do that we would still be hunters and gatherers. And our stars would have been women who barely utter more than a few grunts and live in caves with 4/5 children to look after for. Stagliano is not going anywhere. He is no stranger to a courtroom. He knows exactly what to do. The christian wackos have as much reason to condemn anal as much as prolapse. If a law comes banning this and if cases are won against the directors then I am sure the next law coming will ban anal all together. As my concluding remarks. I like seeing Sarah and Roxy stretch their limits for the sake of fans and themselves. But I am concerned about the health of the stars very much. If it doesn't affect them negatively let them enjoy. I would really like the girls to have their career as long as they like it to be. Sarah Shevon and Roxy Raye we fans love you
You are the reason I ended up going from finding it unsettling to being turned on by it. I stumbled across a short video of you doing it underwater & was intrigued, as well as realising that it wasn't just a thing that average/mediocre looking Euro girls did, but something that attractive women did as well. As for the point about the government going after porn in 2016-hell the US government is always going after porn to win votes/popularity ratings & impose their moral values on everybody else, along with help from the religious brigade. But they never win-you cannot stop people getting horny & getting the fetishes they like. California voted through a stupid measure that has no doubt cost them a lot of lost revenue/taxes from porn companies & performers as they move production elsewhere. Frankly we are all over 18 & don't need telling what we can do with our bodies, if women want to prolapse then that is their decision as an adult, if other adults want to watch them doing it & jerk off over it that is freedom of choice. As for how can they be turned on by it people can be turned on by all kinds of things-look at SantataScat, she did an interview saying she actually really enjoys eating her own number twos & isn't just something she does to make money, she makes money enjoying something she does anyway. Edited by - pervybrit50 on 3/7/2014 4:41:02 AM
I agree that as long as a person is aware of and understands any risks and possible long term complications or ill effects of an action, then they should be allowed to do as they please as long as it doesn't cause anyone any physical harm. Smoking and excess alcohol cause more damage and harm to both the person who indulges and any innocent bystanders, but you don't see the government or the hypocritical Christian right rushing in to do anything about it. And the American porn industry is worth millions to a billion dollars a year. Sometimes, I think Americans are daft! Why not unionise it, legitimise it and tax it? Ideally a self regulatory body or union by pornstars for pornstars (with absolutely no involvement of agents, producers or directors) is what is needed. Something similar to the sex workers union in Holland. But that's another topic for another thread. Cloudburst, as long as no one has coerced a performer and if they do enjoy indulging it, why ban something? And as there has been no follow up studies done on self induced prolapsing in younger women, it might be an interesting research subject for somebody. As for Sarah Shevon and Roxy Raye, if they are the actual posters, whether you prolapse or not I have been and always will be a fan. Though I wish Roxy would do more BDSM with male dominants. Edited by - indisposed on 3/7/2014 5:28:48 AM
Exactly-I don't get off/understand the appeal of snot, belly expansion/bloating, vore & balloon fetish porn-but if others get off to it then good for them. We all have our kinks & it would be a bit boring if we all like the same things-I expect many of the people who like the above named things would find my liking of piss, scat, prolapse etc not to their tastes.
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Posted - Mar 7 2014 : 10:11AM
Sarah and Roxy - thanks for participating despite judgments. Sarah talks more about prolapsing in this interview with Captain Jack which makes it very clear that it is Sarah participating here in the forum. We have had very few instances of fans, publicists and/or agents pretending to be performers in the forum. Cloudburst, I don't want to get in a big discussion in this thread but you should do more research on obscenity prosecutions if you think it has anything to do with specific sex acts that you consider extreme. Welcome discussion in a new thread on it. A good book = The Government Vs. Erotica: The Siege of Adam & Eve.
A smooth operator, operating correctly. 445 Posts 1/14
Posted - Mar 8 2014 : 1:00AM
This NEEDS to happen! Roxy and Sarah together would be AMAZING! It's a funny coincidence to me that Roxy posted this since I requested a scene with her and Sarah on the Jay Sin forum a few days ago. Please someone, ANYONE, make this happen!!! lol
Thank you Roxy Raye for your input, much appreciated! I would love, love, love to be paired with you! <3 It's WAY over-due and could not be a better time, really. ;-)
[/quote] This NEEDS to happen! Roxy and Sarah together would be AMAZING! It's a funny coincidence to me that Roxy posted this since I requested a scene with her and Sarah on the Jay Sin forum a few days ago. Please someone, ANYONE, make this happen!!! lol [/quote] Throughout my career I've had more fan requests to be paired with Roxy Raye than any other girl, even before I started prolapsing. True fact.
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Posted - Mar 8 2014 : 5:47AM
Anyone know the name of the porn chick in that gif ??
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Posted - Mar 8 2014 : 6:03AM
Janitor thanks for those two links, I will definitely check them out later. As far as this thread goes I guess most of the responses were predictable - people who are into it are still going to be into it, people grossed out by it are still going to be grossed out. My main issue again is basically that I wish prolapse would stay on the dark side of the web and not enter into mainstream anal porn. IMHO it seems to be way too extreme of a fetish to be found in mainstream hardcore anal porn. Some people here mentioned scat (another anal-related fetish like prolapse) but you will NEVER see scat (as far as I know and I've watched 1,000's of anal scenes) in mainstream anal porn, the most you might see very rarely is a stream of light-brown fluid (not actual feces) if the girl didn't do a proper cleansing but it's cleaned right away and removed from the scene. That is where prolapse should be found if you are into that type of thing - where you find scat and vore and vomit and other extreme fetishes, not in fucking movies released by popular mainstream studios like Evil Angel. For some reason (I'm not sure what the exact reason is) a few years ago Jay Sin along with Mike Adriano began filming this sick prolapse stuff. Why Stagliano or some other higher-up didn't tell them it's too extreme and not to shoot it again is beyond me.
Guys another member posted this in the Jay Sin thread. It doesn't belong there so I'm going to delete it, but to preserve the obvious work that he put into it, I'm going to paste it here. These are his words, not mine. If you reply to it, address him and not me.
^ Good call killbillvol69 . If a person takes his time and effort to put up something like this, it should be preserved even if it was not posted where it should have been. Edited by - alexidavid on 3/8/2014 10:30:37 AM
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Posted - Mar 8 2014 : 12:45PM
Yes thanks killbill, that was very informative and thanks to other members making the case for and against using facts instead of calling names and making unfounded accusations. The comparisons to alcohol and drug abuse were especially on target. The performers are the ones taking the risks for the pleasure of their viewers and that is their choice. If offensive things are to be banned then I am offended by holier than thou people trying to impose their religious views on me, should they be banned? They are banned from my house where I have the power to ban them. We all have that power and if something offends you then ban it from your house but stay out of mine. I dont like the spit thing but I dont call people a bunch of snot eaters, or serial killers. The way Igot into the prolapse thing was at first I liked Anal sex in my videos then came anal creampies which I really liked next cane Rimming then asscreampie eating which started to show a little rose bud action even if only accidendally. I started seeking these movies out only to discover Mila and her glorious rose. The scenes were never long enough though so I started looking for other movies with this fetish and discovered Sticky Videos which cater to this and other extreme fetishes such as huge pussy stretching and using toys to insert into the vagina and out of the rectum (also very hot to me) as well as cervical expression or prolapse. Also very hot. something else that I like is asscreampie eating which EA doesnt do at all. I am sure some of the prolapse detractors on here like some of these things as well, we already know they like gaping. Then came Amazing Ty, Naughty Alisha, and Extreme Missy with their extreme brand of anal fun, and I was hooked. Several years went by before there were any new girls for these fetishes, then along came HKJ, and Roxy,(whom I never mention enough as she is the protoge of the aforementioned Ty, and especially Alisha.) Icant explain why I like this fetish so much but I can tell You I dont want to kill a bunch of people I just want to fuck suck and lick everyone of these womens' assholes because they turn me the fuck on. So if you dont judge me I wont insult you. Besides folks it is just sex.
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Posted - Mar 8 2014 : 2:47PM
This NEEDS to happen! Roxy and Sarah together would be AMAZING! It's a funny coincidence to me that Roxy posted this since I requested a scene with her and Sarah on the Jay Sin forum a few days ago. Please someone, ANYONE, make this happen!!! lol
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Throughout my career I've had more fan requests to be paired with Roxy Raye than any other girl, even before I started prolapsing. True fact.
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Then I really hope we get to see the two of you together sometime soon. It would truly be a perfect pairing.
For some reason that you aren't sure of? I think that has been answered already in your thread that you started under false pretenses. You started it as a why do people like this (even though it had horrible connotions put on the viewers of it by you from the start). People have answered you, yet you have turned this into a crusade against it. So why? Because obviously some people, who aren't you, enjoy it. Reasons have been stated in this thread, but you apparently don't want to hear them. To the point you even claim that people aren't who they are. Why would John Stagliano tell Jay Sin or Mike Adriano not to? Evil Angel is distributing their work, not creating it. And obviously sale volume indicates interest in it. If you are so opposed to it, then stick to releases that don't contain it. There are plenty that don't.
This really is a pointless thread because Cloudburst is right and anyone that disagrees is wrong. Prolapses are ugly and disgusting and anyone that enjoys this fetish must be ugly and disgusting (or a serial killer) as well. At the beginning of this he asked for peoples opinions on this topic and why they enjoyed such a fetish but in reality he has no interest at all why because he can't comprehend such a thing. If there are multiple posts in a row by people with a differing opinion to his they must have conspired together beforehand???? really??? When 2 absolute superstars of the genre posted (ROXY RAYE AND SARAH SHEVON)and shared their views, who by the way are much more qualified than you or i to comment on such a topic, the only logical explanation must be that they aren't who they say they are. Again, Really???? I for one would like to thank Roxy and Sarah for taking the time to visit such a forum and make comment and should be treated with more respect than that. Keep up the great work ladies and keep on prolapsing. Some of us actually appreciate your work. Thats my 2 cents
The guy is like a broken record (we get it, you think it's disgusting) and clearly has no intention of having a real discussion. Only interested in stating (and restating) his own narrow minded opinions. The serial killer thing is laughable. Makes me think the guy is probably a troll.
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Posted - Mar 9 2014 : 6:45AM
Whats the point of porn if it ain't doing ''NASTY'' shit???
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Posted - Mar 9 2014 : 11:09AM
Looks to me like this thread is going to end with only 2 pages, unless clodbust just keeps talking to himself. And Yes thank you to Roxy and Sarah.You are two of my favorite performers and I love what you do whether you prolapse or not. Bye clownburstroll. And yes that is what you are.
Roxy - I would love to see you take things elbow deep like KinkyJo. Hopefully depth training is on the horizon?
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Posted - Mar 10 2014 : 2:08PM
Not much more to say here I guess. To the people who think I'm a troll, if you mean trying to point out to people who are into this vile prolapse stuff just how extreme and sick it is, then I guess I'm a troll (although I consider it speaking the TRUTH about a specific topic, not trolling). As I mentioned earlier I never said people shouldn't be able to view prolapse porn if they are into it, I said it should be found on the dark side of the web where the super-extreme stuff belongs along with scat porn, simulated rape porn, vomit porn, bestiality, etc. [MOD: Read the forum etiquette]. But IMO it shouldn't be found in mainstream anal porn movies that are put out by top studios like Evil Angel. I made my points and I rest my case. Edited by - Cloudburst on 3/10/2014 5:27:19 PM Edited by - Cloudburst on 3/10/2014 5:28:08 PM
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Posted - Mar 10 2014 : 2:14PM
. Sarah and Roxy and any other pornstars who do "prolapse porn" may want to read this post by a medical Dr. and re-consider pushing their rectums out for kicks.
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Posted - Mar 10 2014 : 3:17PM
^I wonder how many doctors will say yes to ATM,ATP,sex without condom and many other things we see in todays porn? and if you read it properly Doc even said something about even wide gapes(something you like to see in porn,right?) CAN also have ill effects on the performer.CAN HAVE,not WILL HAVE. so many performers have done it and lived. I wonder why mods taking it so long to ban you when you keep repeating the same thing like a broken record.you dont like it?good for you.watch something else.
^ What klies said. If you are going to look at it that way, even anal sex is bad. Asshole was designed to push things out not to take things in. You would have to wear a condom all the time to be sure. You want to classify prolapse into a dark category only because prolapse is your limit. This is not a valid reason. My twitter
Yeah, I'm sure "Dr. John" just happened to be cruising the net and discovered this site, then just happened upon the 200 page Jay Sin thread and decided to make his first post about prolapse right around the time Cloudburst created this thread. And curious how Cloudburst makes a reference about a doctor, then "a doctor" pops in and makes a post.Just because some guy on the internet says he is a doctor does not make it so. Edited by - rlankford on 3/10/2014 3:39:52 PM
^^^ yeah,anal too. any doctor in his right mind wont say it is safe to have anal sex without condom.add rimming,analingus to the list too. Edited by - klies on 3/10/2014 3:49:42 PM
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Posted - Mar 10 2014 : 4:04PM
Any woman that can take so much dick in her ass it urns inside out is my hero! For a certified ass eating anal freak, nothing turns me on more than a murdered asshole.
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Posted - Mar 10 2014 : 5:25PM
For the record I am not Dr.John and mods can check to verify that if they need to. People here are just upset that what he posted confirms how dangerous anal prolapse is. Hopefully Sarah Shevon, Roxy Raye, and others who engage in this "prolapse porn" will take heed and stop doing it. If they don't then that's okay too but in a few years they won't be able to go outside without worrying about farting all the time and shitting their pants... Edited by - Cloudburst on 3/10/2014 5:29:57 PM
Since this is all about opinion then I will say this ; in my opinion cloudburst should just leave people the f... alone. because we didnt solicit your opinion in the first place. Porn is a billion a year industry so surely there is something out there just right for you. Let the rest of us have what is right for us. There is one studio with two directors who film this fetish so it is not flooding the market. With only an average of one prolapse or less per movie it doesnt even make up even one percent of the total porn produced.
Regardless of DrJohn's credentials what he says is accurate and eminently sensible. Prolapsing in the long term is both harmful and unhealthy. However, people who engage in it are adults and as long as they understand the risks involved then they should be allowed to continue as they see fit. The problem is that most peoples information is from unverified and often inaccurate websites. In this day and age any nutter can and often does post whatever they feel like on the "net". But I wouldn't be quick to deny or ignore good sensible advice given by anyone. And with regards to Roxy and Sarah if they achieve pleasure or profit from the act of prolapsing, fair play to them but I'd advice proper care and limiting the amount of actual prolapsing. My worry is as this fetish gains in popularity, as most other fetishes have i.e. gaping, DAP etc. Then more directors will shoot it and newer ingenues who aren't well informed maybe convinced to perform these acts to the detriment of their health. After all, the industry and often fans hardly put the health of the stars as a first priority.
^ And exactly where did you get your information? The internet? Please provide the links. As for Dr. John, whoever he is, he never said what kind of doctor he is, and in his post all he did is refer to his "proctologist friend" multiple times.
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Posted - Mar 11 2014 : 12:21AM
I am all for people choosing to prolapse.... but you don't need any medical degrees or studies to be quite confident that long term prolapsing is going to cause you problems a decade down the road. It just is common sense. Same as smoking or drinking; we all know it will catch up to us but we are adults and do it for the pleasure in the moment. So really, asking for studies and doctors is pointless. It's common sense and at the end of the day, it is their body and they can do what they want (just like smoking and drinking).
Here are some links http://www.uptodate.com/contents/rectal-prolapse-in-adults-the-basics?source=search_result&search=rectal+prolapse+adult&selectedTitle=3~34 http://www.uptodate.com/contents/overview-of-rectal-procidentia-rectal-prolapse?source=search_result&search=rectal+prolapse+adult&selectedTitle=1~34#H284494949 http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02587405#page-1 Another source not on the net is an article looking at the decrease in resting anal sphincter tone with recurrent and prolonged distension. This was from a study in 1962 by Porter. The first is focused on predominantly patient information and doesn't really cover the long term effects of self induced prolapse and rectal trauma, but it provides a good basis for further research and extrapolation. The second may require membership, but give it a try. The third is the anatomical basis for prolapse. Edited by - indisposed on 3/11/2014 1:14:20 AM
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Posted - Mar 7 2014 : 4:08AM
If we stopped doing everything that was dangerous our lives wouldn't be worth living.