but i really do believe in marriage as a principle. i'm 40 and this is my first marriage. i waited this long exactly because i didn't want to have a failed marriage. ever.
damned if i stay. damned if i go.
isn't love grand? :(
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| Narcissus Deactivated User Love Thyself 418 Posts 1/08 |  Posted - Jan 10 2008 : 7:34PMbut i really do believe in marriage as a principle. i'm 40 and this is my first marriage. i waited this long exactly because i didn't want to have a failed marriage. ever. damned if i stay. damned if i go. isn't love grand? :( [Link] |
| elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Jan 10 2008 : 7:56PM [Link] |
| Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 6:25AM Break the wrist, walk away.'Cause you're not Sativa Rose, darling. And at least the men still have their dignity.Damn straight. One chick I nearly got married to, once I met her mother, I got the fcuk out. Her mother made her father wait until marriage for sex, then shelled out three daughters and a son in the space of 5 years. Then the guy left her after that because she wasn't putting out. She also referred to sex as "marriage duties". Fcuk that for a game of soldiers. In my narrow mind, women have it stitched up. To me, it's always felt like she's putting out for my sake, and I've always felt that I'm giving her love and intimacy for her sake. I don't get sex unless there's love and intimacy and crap first, and I've often given her all that and didn't get nowt in return. Call it fcuked up if you will, because that's what it is. I guess it's the eons old vicious cycle; men use love & money to get sex, women use sex to get love & money. Butt then again... I had my fun and that's all that matters. [Link] |
BlackSix  All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 7:31AM I don't buy that most men just want sex, not love, although there are some men (and women) like that, they tend to be emotionally callous in many ways. I don't look down on those who don't need to be in a monogamous relationship, but notice that often they are quick to dismiss the possibility that it does work for others. [Link] |
| Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 9:05AM Personally, I think I need a chick who has sex for the love of it, I don't care if she uses me for it, because that's what I want. I've been around long enough to know that an emotionally fragile woman who mostly has sex as a result of love & intimacy and obligation to "marriage duties", is not for me. I had my fun and that's all that matters. [Link] |
| Digmen1 Member 629 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Jan 16 2008 : 10:18PM The women are in control because its usually men that want sex. I would be very surprised if many men could honestly say that they can have sex with their wives when they want it. In my experience and from talking to other men I think that in general women are all up for it when they are courting, but once they have their first child they turn off sex. But I think that once husbands agree to "pay" for sex, then it is a down hill slide and the woman will always want payment. Regards Digby [Link] |
| Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Jan 17 2008 : 3:16PM I had my fun and that's all that matters. [Link] |
| budtugley Senior Member One man's trash can be the next man's treasure. 1187 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 5:43PM A guy who has lots of money wonders if there is a food that acts as an aphrodisiac for women. He donates a grant to the local university with the stipulation that the funds are to be used for research into foods that might make women horny so to speak. A couple of months goes by and the guy visits the research department and talks with the head of the project. 'Well, have you found a food that gets women ready for action?' 'Actually, no. What we did find was a food that gets women completely turned off to sex most of the time.' 'Gee, what would that food be?' 'It's called wedding cake.' I thought we needed some humor. Any lady who puts a price on physical intimacy with her husband can't have much of a spiritual, mental, or emotional intimacy going with him either. It has to be a sign of something far worse than a reluctance to maintain a viable marital relationship. I've talked to a few men who cheated on their wives and a couple are serial philanderers who'd cheat no matter what but most shake their heads sadly and say their wives didn't want sex often and they were forced to find it somewhere else. On the good news front I watched the Superbowl with Don and his new girlfriend and she's a sweetheart. It looks like he found a fine lady and he deserves the happiness. Edited by - budtugley on 2/5/2008 5:51:13 PM [Link] |
| redhead Member Not so redhead these days... 718 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Feb 15 2008 : 12:50AM [Link] |
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| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Mar 15 2008 : 11:35PM All the money my wife and I have is shared. Joint savings, joint checking, joint investment accounts, etc. If I pay my wife for sex, then I'm not paying. She can spend as much of our money as she wants to, anyway. So if my wife got off on the idea of making me pay her for sex, why the fuck not? Sounds like fun to me. I could pay her to wear all kinds of kinky shit that she's usually too shy to put on. I could pay to tie her up and eat her cunt for hours. Ass to pussy? Ass to mouth? Ass to pussy to ass to mouth? How much? Maybe I could pay one of her girlfriends, too. Wife, mother, whore. I like the sound of that. [Link] |
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| HeyNow Oblivious Gold Star Hey! 5965 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Mar 16 2008 : 2:31AM Wow. Just wow. [Link] |
| BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06 | Posted - Mar 18 2008 : 11:04AM [Link] |
| cobalt60 Knuckle Dragger 2046 Posts 2/03 | Posted - Mar 18 2008 : 11:48AM [Link] |
| elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Mar 18 2008 : 12:36PM [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Mar 18 2008 : 3:47PM [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Mar 18 2008 : 3:51PM In the meantime, why not have a few laughs at her expense while you're waiting for the divorce papers to come through? [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Mar 18 2008 : 4:30PM [Link] |
| katsirk Member Crush on Greg....mmm 812 Posts 7/06 | Posted - Mar 20 2008 : 3:05AM [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Mar 20 2008 : 4:19AM No, that quote is a BustdownGal original -- from awhile back. [Link] |
| katsirk Member Crush on Greg....mmm 812 Posts 7/06 | Posted - Mar 20 2008 : 5:14AM [Link] |
| nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Mar 20 2008 : 1:17PM [Image not found DB] [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Mar 20 2008 : 1:48PM [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Mar 20 2008 : 1:53PM . Edited by - bob on 3/20/2008 2:07:59 PM [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Mar 20 2008 : 2:07PM I meant, "The enemy of the incessantly horny man . . . " . Edited by - bob on 3/20/2008 2:09:34 PM [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Mar 20 2008 : 2:09PM [Link] |
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| Jenn1e New Member 3 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Dec 18 2009 : 12:26PM Jennie [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 2:27PM BUT, to make this type of "quid pro quo" the BASIS of one's sex life is just sick, nothing fancier. The woman's attitude is one of a prostitute where above what I describe is just another facet of a multi-layered sex life (multi-layered is best... it can't be the same shit all the time, prostitution or otherwise). I think a woman using sex against a man is really no different than a man being violent to a woman-he is using HIS advantage, which is strength in most cases.... I bet that may sound wacky to you... but it's true, both sexes have physical advantages... this woman using HER advantage clearly HURT this man. So why is it different if a man uses HIS advantage to hurt her? If she's gonna act like a hooker, why can't he act like a caveman? lol. I pity women who think like this as ultimately it indicates they have no sex drive, that they are fake people (fake sex is a sign of a much deeper problem), and they are not in touch with themselves or their lovers... how sad. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 2:31PM Frankly, if I was that guy, I'm sure I'd have divorced her the second I realized how twisted she was... OR I'd have acted twisted back, like maybe come up and jerk off on her face every time she was sleeping and then fix myself a sandwich. Yes,... that might make her reconsider what the sexual roles of partners are SUPPOSED to be lol. EDIT: Or better yet... tell her I was always broke and open a secret bank account (clearly she's not my partner, so I should behave like a JOHN would, hey, I'm not her husband who she loves, I'm just a f'n CUSTOMER lol) and then just go to strip clubs and YES pay REAL hookers who are GOOD at it.... maybe save up and hire 3 at a time.... gee, maybe bring them home and fuck them... I mean, the wife in this scenario is more like a call girl roommate right? So she shouldn't care - as long as she doesn't have to fuck me I'm sure she'd be happy lol.... Frankly, there are so many good responses to a foolish woman like that it's too easy and if that guy didn't REACT (appropriately) to her behavior, then maybe he deserved it. I for one wouldn't put up with twisted bullshit like that. Quid Pro Quo indeed... one good mind f**k deserves another folks. Edited by - seedfeeder on 12/21/2009 2:35:40 PM [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 2:44PM And I'd say BOTH people in such a situation are pathetic. A woman is pathetic if she treats her husband like a john / customer. A man is pathetic if lacks the self respect so badly that he puts up with it and stays. Perhaps you don't see the other side of it because you do this too lol. To that all I can say is this: Even serial killers think they are "normal". Anyone can justify anything if they so choose... but that doesn't mean it is right or okay. [Link] |
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| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 2:47PM But only a moron would pay that much for sex lol. But note the difference: You are strangers, not lovers. Lovers demanding payment for sex is nothing short of GROSS. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 2:55PM Note, these are all cases of STRANGERS... nothing wrong with that. Hardly comparable to a marriage. So the relationship is money for sex my friend? Then turn the tables. If you control the cash, she has now offered you an implicit contract... she should only get cash for sex. This also means YOU should control some of the pricing... thus NEGOTIATE!!! "$20 for a blowjob? I don't think so, not unless you learn how to deep throat and gargle my cum... then I'd pay $20 and if you don't spill a drop I'll even tip you an extra $5 honey :)" She wants to act like a back alley bar hooker? Then treat her like one lol. So you can certainly play her stupid game and play it better than she... odds are she isn't that bright anyway to come up with a marriage plan like this anyway. Whatever game she is playing, it is a POWER game. So play it better, it's not hard. All you need to do is understand a person and their motivations and you can beat them at their own game quite easily. I've never seen a game from a woman that could not be used against her. Don't despair... you have just as much power as she, so USE IT. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 3:02PM Let's say he's a lousy lover. Like she sucks him off but he never eats her out.... I'm okay with her cutting off the blowjobs until he rips his tongue a few times and gets things "mutual" again. Or let's say he can't get her off, because he's a selfish lover... well, then I think she has good motivation for asking for something since clearly the sex is not "mutually beneficial". BUT, I don't think that is what is going on here. I think she's taking advantage of him and that's wrong and messed up. I agree, he should change himself: He should fight back or leave, but no way in hell should he accept this type of behavior.. let some other idiot have that girl I say, there's plenty of good ones out there that believe in fairness and love and friendship and thus make wonderful wives. [Link] |
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