Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03
Posted - Aug 6 2006 : 1:45PM
He describes the traits of a psychopath like they were some concrete reality and not just something agreed upon by mental health "experts". They define what the norms are or should be and everyone else is a dangerous deviant. Good thing I view them all as charlatans or I'd be worried.
well it makes sense, we dont self regulate and the average chick is young and wide eyed, hell even *I* want to take advantage of them. for every porn chick there is a suitcase pimp, and after a few years of getting dicked around you figure out how it works and begin dicking! haha
Gee , I always thought that everyone had the ability to have the traits that Dr. Hare described. But apparently, only porn stars have these characteristics! Because as we all know now, lack of anxiety, short-term marriages, impulsivity, irresponsibility, and substance abuse NEVER happen to everyday normal people... JUST porn stars!
I prefer a more restrictive definition of psychopaths, towards the more cool and calculated criminals who don't care about anyone else but themselves. It wasn't too long ago that an article was posted in WN&N about the Columbine Killers, talking about how Eric Harris was a psychopath. I would prefer the term be restricted to others in that degree of evil, otherwise the term gets watered down and loses its meaning.
Clearly, there are some seedy and manipulative people in porn, but I don't think that's the norm, and psychopaths dangerous to society are rarer still in porn.
I have read Dr. Hare's book, and the central part of his premise is that psychopaths (or if you prefer, sociopaths) are not nearly as rare as one might think, or hope; and that many, if not most psychopaths are not criminals, but rather persons devoid of the norms of empathy, and thus, difficult for non-sociopathes to indentify, understand, or compensate for when encountering and interacting with them.
In the ten years since I read the book I have found it useful in explaining behaivior I would have otherwise found difficult to apprehend, and has given me a basis for adjusting my own course of action to, when possible, avoid such people; or when force to deal with such people, to help adjust my expections and actions so that outcomes are not dependent on the regard for other people that is commonly held among properly socialized people.
Certainly several of the "industry people" who post to this board readily fall into Dr. Hare's (useful) definition of psychopath, as do a few notable non-industry posters.
Further thought in this area suggests that the psychopathic personality is a neccesary component of the larger body of any society's collective personality. This treads dangerously close to evolutionary psychology, a discipline of which I am highly skeptical. None the less the theories make for interesting and provactive reading.
I have a mild case Asperger's Syndrome, so you could say that my sense of empathy is not as well developed as others. However, my sense of sympathy is as strong or stronger than anyone's. A psychopath, on the other hand, might have great empathy, being able to read other people like a book, but they have no sympathy for others, that is, it doesn't bother them in the least when they hurt others.
Shades of meaning not withstanding, your point is a good one. The average psychopath has a much better understanding of how a normal person's mind works than visa versa.
Absolutely! Interesting that Dr. Hare uses the word "predators" to describe psychopaths, because it is that opportunistic insight or understanding which allows pychopaths to prey upon others.
I had just gotten off to a disturbing flick. A movie "interesting" enough that it would have turned off anyone other than the insane (insane: having or showing a very abnormal or sick state of mine). Am I insane? By definition, yes. Years ago a girl getting off diddling herself was enough and now...
I have a question and I cannot answer it. When I got into porn was I "normal" and porn has perverted me or was I already perverted and hence found porn? Which came first, porn (the chick) or the psychopath (egg)? Or, it is a hereditary or environment question?
I think the stereotype is that women come into the porn industry a bit jaded to begin with. I wouldn't go so far as to call them psychopaths; but I think, if you were to dig, you might find some traumatic incident in every porn star's past. I think they all suffer from varying levels of low self-esteem which causes a heightened need for attention.
Or this all could tie into another stereotype, drug abuse in the porn industry. It maybe that most porn stars are just addicts. The person may have never touched a drug; but sex is just an activity that feeds their addiction. I buy this idea more than any other.
Just so it's clear, I know that I really don't know what I'm talking about, I'm only speculating.
I'd love to find out how many porn stars had a "happy" childhood. Happy, loosely defined as, present, loving, and supportive family, no instances of physical or emotional abuse, moderate to high self-esteem, no exposure to drug use, stable friendships and a "safe" school environment
every porn star's life? come on. you're talking about the drugged up runaway stereotype, and you're clearly refering only to the women. what about the men?
Anybody see his checklist for a psychopath? He's a Criminal Psycholgist, and if he developed that from prison populations, then he's going to define traits from within that group. I definately wouldn't try any armchair psychonanalysis with it alone in a wider uncontrolled population group.
Right. Don't forget, I'm blonde, or says my stylist, and i do porn. Ha ha...
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I love America 650 Posts 8/05
Posted - Mar 8 2008 : 11:19AM
It isn't unlikely that a profession which involves being the centre of attention will attract people with a higher degree narcissism and (if defined as such) psychopathic tendencies than other professions. That's hardly limited to pornography, but also includes acting, music, television, you name it. Just the same way, professions involving power or control like politics, corporate leadership, stock markets, military, police and prison servicing is likely to attract people with a higher desire for exercising dominance, another psychopathic trait. Anyway, I find it pretty useless to use "psychopath" as a label suggesting it's how a person is born and is always going to be regardless of personal experiences and what life brings him/her. Things like narcissism, the need for dominance and hedonism are traits that are latent in all human beings, it's just more prevalent in some individuals than others. I see no fundamental differences in persons described as psychopaths, they're just further out on the scale. If it becomes pathological then it's time to start worrying and think about treatment, but as long as people are functioning normally in society and everyday life I see no reason to throw around labels.
I feel like the definition of a psychopath, then, is dependent on social norms and common morals. Therefore, a psychopath in America (hypocritical society based on Christian morality) would have no problem adjusting in say, Europe (or at least the Mediterranean countries), where sexual promiscuity is much more prevalent and people suffer from less anxiety and guilt. Maybe that's why I like Europe so much...
Little Puck Interview
Posted - Aug 6 2006 : 12:58PM
