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veronica moser
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NYC
208 Posts
9/06
Posted - Jul 11 2007 : 11:01AM

Greetings, first post to Gay talk…
Occasionally, I will check out bi-porn. I tend to rent DVDs in the NYC area, and my options therein seem to be limited to early '90s stuff, which is troubling due to the big haired women, dopey looking California twinks and distracting late '80s clothing…
Sometime i will find late '90s stuff often featuring TJ Hart and Jordan Haze, both of whom I find appealing. But I can't seem to locate much modern stuff…there was one I liked where there was a big orgy on a plane that appeared to be from the late '90s…and I just found American BI, wherein Tory Lane, Roxy Jezel, Shy Love, Venus and Isabel Ice share cocks with other guys …Its only BJs, and Love is the only one to take both cocks in her mouth… I am unaware of any recent films other than this where chicks I dig from "straight" porn appear in bi flicks…
My preference would be Bi porn that involves the stuff that regularly occurs in straight gonzo. If I dig watching a gal getting Dped or sticking two cocks in her mouth in a "straight" film, then I want the same in a bi film. Many posters over in the the Porn Pool and Star Crossed forums (often defensively) note the gay subtext of two guys cocks rubbing up against each other in DP, DA or DV. So I would be willing to embrace the subtext, and jack off to two guys fucking a gal in those manners, and then fucking each other. I wanna see free and equal sexuality between all participants, just like I do with FFM.
But it seems that most Bi porn that I've seen occurs in the gay porn context (or what my understanding of gay porn is) : There's no 2 dude 1 gal DP; the dudes cum on each other's backs or chests, never in anyone's mouth; the dudes will fuck each other asses but not the gal's; the women seem to be an afterthought and girl-girl sex is rare; condoms are always used…
Clearly, these films are made by companies that mainly market to gay men, since many of the above tendencies are consonant with taboos re: spreading HIV and other diseases that I would imagine self conscious gay-themed companies want to avoid. And it seems that straight porn companies do not wish to risk alienting fans that would be pissed off at the very idea of bi-curiosity (gals eating other is bliss; dudes fucking each other is anathema)…
So, like I said, I want to see bi films with three ways, four ways and orgies where gals and dudes equally all suck cock, eat and fuck pussy and ass…but are such films rare? Is it true that bi films adhere to the conventions of gay porn? Can anyone recommend films where the free for all I'm interested in occur?
Wow, long post! didn't notice til I was done. Off to beat off to American Bi now! Appreciate anyone's input!
Loraine
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catfacemcgee
Member

43 Posts
7/06
Posted - Jul 15 2007 : 6:28PM
I believe the movie you mention is "Mile Bi Club".
What about "Read Bi All"? Same company - All Worlds Video, late 90s. They also made "Bi Back Mountain" in the last year.
On the Euro side, try "Bareback Bi Sex Lovers" series from US Male. 3, 4, and 6 seemed better than the others to me.
john45
arthur again

26 Posts
4/07
Posted - Jul 21 2007 : 8:48PM
veronica moser,
You make a good point. I view movies in the "bi" category as being incredibly dull and stereotypical. You see the same standard MMF threesome action over and over.
Bi movies need to become raunchier and have more women in them. There needs to be more female-female action as well. If anything, I would increase the amount of female-female and reduce the amount of male-male. I think it's important to strike a balance between all gender combinations.
girlstrapon
Member

13 Posts
8/07
Posted - Aug 7 2007 : 9:03PM
My beef with bi porn is that the guy are almost always twinks. I would like to see some with normal guys or bodybuilder types - anything but the same old "two twinks and a girl" thing.
 
15pesos
Member

20 Posts
4/07
Posted - Aug 19 2007 : 2:46AM
i'd like to see more ass to mouth scenes.
more creampies.
more scenes when the two guys (or all the guys) got their ass fucked.
more ass fingering, more domination of the woman.
actually the shemale videos are in advantage in that cases, but i'd like to see more sex MMF.
prfb
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165 Posts
6/05
Posted - Aug 21 2007 : 12:39AM
May I heartily recommend to one and all THE BI APPLE, which mixes genders and scenes in almost exactly the nifty ways that are written about in this thread. This 2007 indie/alt feature impressed me a lot, and I'm speaking as someone who's seen about every other title mentioned here.
Speaking of other bi titles, though, is there some reason that guys never do facials on camera? Or any other kind of cumshot like the ones you can see all the time in straight porn?
rich07
Member

64 Posts
5/07
Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 1:45AM
If I ever dabble into bi porn I just want to see girls convincing guys to give and recieve oral sex. It's so hard to find a bi porn that doesn't go further than that.
prfb
Member

165 Posts
6/05
Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 12:12PM
This is sort of related to a discussion I recently had with a friend -- we were talking about the "cuckold" stuff that's a growing micro-niche in straight porn. It would seem a logical progression that your Cruel Hussy Wife might force the tearful, oh-so-reluctant, cuckold hubby to suck her lover's cock... but if there's a title that goes there we couldn't think of it.
Of course, hubby wouldn't THINK of doing more than that! (At least in Part One) A 'straight' guy has to draw the line *somewhere*!
ashten
Member

254 Posts
4/07
Posted - Sep 23 2007 : 2:40AM
I want to see more mainstream porn actress getting into bi porn. Wouldn't it be great if like Jesse Jane was in a bi-sex movie. Another thing I want is the women to be more vocal during the scene.
malkira
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323 Posts
6/02
Posted - Oct 2 2007 : 3:23PM
Kelly Wells has done a couple of bi movies that I'd be interested in seeing - American Bi 2 and Bi-Back Mountain (which is also TJ Hart's first bisex movie in some time). Anyone seen them yet?
veronica moser
Member

NYC
208 Posts
9/06
Posted - Oct 4 2007 : 8:28AM
" is there some reason that guys never do facials on camera? Or any other kind of cumshot like the ones you can see all the time in straight porn?"
my guess is that bi porn is made by gay companies, and there is a strong taboo therein against facials or cum going near any holes. Gay porn companies are more or less accepted by the mainstream gay community, and therefore would come under a lot of pressure were they to include stuff in films that would be construed as promoting risky sex, communicable diseases, etc.
Now that certain drug cocktails are common, many gay men engage in the same kind of fucking that was discouraged during the 80s and 90s. But the "responsible" wing of the gay community largely disapproves. I certainly sympathesize, but have to admit as a bi-curious straight dude that I would like to see unhinged, condom-free bi sexual free-for-alls of the sort I dg in straight orgy scenes.
Therefore, it was cool to watch American Bi, but I still would have liked more than BG to B blowjobs.
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