Quality of female talent

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Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02	Posted - Nov 10 2002 : 3:18PM I have a question. I am interested in feedback both from fans as well as industry insiders. My question is this: excluding Europe, is this a good, bad, or mediocre time for the availability of quality female talent in porn? Specifically, I'm referring to girls available to work in the US for US porn companies. I'm asking only about the US talent pool. Europe is a totally different deal. Also, I'm really not interested in girls that have signed contracts with companies like JKP or Vivid. As far as I'm concerned, those girls have been taken out of the talent pool. My personal opinion is that this is sort of a mediocre period. There are definitely some really hot girls out there doing porn right now. However, it seems like there isn't any one girl out there that is the whole package. Avy Scott is probably the hottest girl working right now that isn't under contract, but she hasn't been willing to do anal so far. Gauge is awesome, but is getting a little bit overexposed. There's a new girl named Anna Belle that seems promising, and I like her a lot, but she doesn't have the totally kick-ass body that I'm looking for here. Bella, of course, probably has the best body in porn, but doesn't have the all-around great looks. I think Allura Eden is something special, but it seems like she doesn't work that much and I've been told that she has a major boyfriend issue. I had great hopes a few months ago for a new girl named Joy Jericho that had an awesome scene in Jules Jordan's Space Invaderz, but I've been informed that she won't work without condoms anymore. Aurora Snow is great, and is truly gorgeous, but also looks anorexic. I thought Shelby Belle was going to be the next big thing for a while but she doesn't appear to be active right now. My conclusion: there are a lot of girls out there that are well worth watching, but none that has or does everything the porn fan (at least this porn fan!) is looking for. There doesn't seem to be a girl that combines Avy Scott quality looks and body but with the nastiness of Julie Knight or Pre-JKP Shyla. I realize of course that girls like that are rare, that a girl's physical assets (looks, body) normally are inversely related to her willingness to take it up the rear. But still... It also seems like there are usually at least several Euro porngirls working the US studios to spice things up, and I imagine, to put a little pressure on the US girls to get a little nastier. But right now, off the top of my head, I can't really think of any major euro pornchicks that are working in the US. I've been told that Monica Sweetheart has been gone since January-February time frame and haven't heard a thing about her since. In the past we've also had girls like Nikki Anderrson, Dina Juwel, and Silvia Saint but they've all pretty much disappeared off the face of the planet. I would be interested in hearing any opinions anyone has on this topic. [Link]
DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02	Posted - Nov 10 2002 : 5:59PM Porn Scout, Welcome to the forum. How do you define talent? Just the ability/willingness to take it up the butt, or the ability to also present a persona and perhaps carry a role? DenverDon [Link]
tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00	Posted - Nov 10 2002 : 6:17PM From a producer's point of view, I think it's still about the same here in the US. As for the Euro girls who work in the US, we've got Jessica, Sandra, Claudia Jamson, Rita Faltoyano, and a bunch others. Sure Silvia Saint and Monica Sweetheart were possibly the best crossovers ever, but I have high expectations for Claudia Jamson. [Link]
PornManiac Deactivated User aka Steve K 325 Posts 7/02	Posted - Nov 10 2002 : 6:26PM tricia_devereaux wrote: From a producer's point of view, I think it's still about the same here in the US. As for the Euro girls who work in the US, we've got Jessica, Sandra, Claudia Jamson, Rita Faltoyano, and a bunch others. Sure Silvia Saint and Monica Sweetheart were possibly the best crossovers ever, but I have high expectations for Claudia Jamson. Click to expand Well said tricia...I also have high hopes/expectations for Ms. Jammson. She is so beautiful and so damn sexy. I hope to see Rita Faltoyano in some Cristopher Clark movies soon. [Link]
Speelie Senior Member Fort Collins, CO 1191 Posts 5/01	Posted - Nov 11 2002 : 2:16AM Rita's already been in several Christoph Clark movies, such as Hardball 12, Hey Babe, Nice Tits, and Big Natural Tits 5. You might not have noticed her credited in the first two because she called herself "Daniella" when she initially worked for Clark. [Link]

Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02	Posted - Nov 11 2002 : 9:03AM tricia_devereaux wrote: From a producer's point of view, I think it's still about the same here in the US. As for the Euro girls who work in the US, we've got Jessica, Sandra, Claudia Jamson, Rita Faltoyano, and a bunch others. Sure Silvia Saint and Monica Sweetheart were possibly the best crossovers ever, but I have high expectations for Claudia Jamson. Click to expand That is the kind of opinion I'm looking for. I actually was not aware that Claudia Jamson was working in the US. I thought she was filming in Europe only. I think I know the Jessica you are referring to - short, shoulder length dyed blond hair, does lots of interracial scenes. Not familiar with Sandra. Rita is good, but also another one I thought was only in Europe. But still, there's no one in the US talent pool that really knocks my socks off. There are a lot of girls I like, but none that are truly awesome. Maybe Claudia though. [Link]
Sammyboy Member 308 Posts 8/01	Posted - Nov 11 2002 : 9:29AM The talent pool is better now than it's ever been. And, seemingly, it would be even more impressive if some girls weren't so underused. We're not privy to inside information about who's in or out right at this very moment, but it sure seems some good ones are being missed. But the talent's really there right now. [Link]
Druber Deactivated User 187 Posts 9/02	Posted - Nov 11 2002 : 9:40AM Sammyboy wrote: The talent pool is better now than it's ever been. Click to expand I do have the same feeling both for the U.S. and America. You might not have the real superstars these days anymore, but this is because more girls enter the biz and the girls stay shorter. Generally I like this high turn out, although I mourn it in certain cases sometimes (Shyla Stylez comes to mind). At the beginning ot this year I was really anxious to starve because of lack of fresh meat, now I just dream of more new companies like RLD which will drive even more girls into the biz consequently. Druber [Link]
Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02	Posted - Nov 11 2002 : 10:56AM DenverDon wrote: Porn Scout, Welcome to the forum. How do you define talent? Just the ability/willingness to take it up the butt, or the ability to also present a persona and perhaps carry a role? DenverDon Click to expand My point isn't to define talent, per se. I'm referring to talent in the more generic sense of the overall talent pool within the US. If you put a gun to my head, I would say talent in porn is a combination of looks, body, and ability to perform sexually on camera. Carrying a role has nothing to do with anything porn related, in my opinion. Porn is about sex, not acting. What I'm asking about is whether, at the upper end of the talent pool, where you have girls that are really great looking with awesome bodies, are there any that are willing to do anal? I realize that sounds crude, because it is crude, but anal is really, really popular among porn fans. My opinion is that there really isn't anyone right now that is at the top of the talent pool in looks and body that's also willing to do anal. One notable exception might be Gauge, but she's also getting to point where she's done so many scenes that her marketability is probably suffering. Don't get me wrong, there are lots of girls that do anal that I think are perfect hotties. But I'm thinking also about a particular type of girl, someone with broad appeal like a Monica Sweetheart or Nikki Anderrson. Tricia just mentioned Claudia Jammson, who I did not realize was working in the US. So maybe she will take Monica Sweetheart's place. [Link]
P-Knuckle Member 309 Posts 11/01	Posted - Nov 11 2002 : 11:40AM Well, I can't judge what your criteria is from your posts; this is a very grey area where opinions differ. But even when you point out the 'talent' you like such as Nikki Anderrson, Dina Juwel, Silvia Saint, and Monica Sweetheart, these are not american women. If you don't like american women from the get-go, I can't understand how you can complain about the US talent pool. The US talent pool is fine; I think you prefer glamourized Euro women, which is not as fruitful in America obviously. I don't really understand what you are asking for. I would list some talent you should look into (but they might be anorexic or have a blemish on their knee, etc.) Imagine if I asked why the euro talent pool was scarce and why more girls like Belladonna aren't making movies overseas. Its not a functional comparison, shes an american performer who did some euro titles, and hoping that european women are somehow comparable or interchangeable with american women is not a reality. [Link]
DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02	Posted - Nov 11 2002 : 11:41AM Porn Scout, Didn't mean to put a gun to your head. To answer your question, I think the performer pool is about the same here in the U.S. DenverDon [Link]
Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02	Posted - Nov 11 2002 : 2:11PM P-Knuckle wrote: Well, I can't judge what your criteria is from your posts; this is a very grey area where opinions differ. But even when you point out the 'talent' you like such as Nikki Anderrson, Dina Juwel, Silvia Saint, and Monica Sweetheart, these are not american women. If you don't like american women from the get-go, I can't understand how you can complain about the US talent pool. The US talent pool is fine; I think you prefer glamourized Euro women, which is not as fruitful in America obviously. I don't really understand what you are asking for. I would list some talent you should look into (but they might be anorexic or have a blemish on their knee, etc.) Imagine if I asked why the euro talent pool was scarce and why more girls like Belladonna aren't making movies overseas. Its not a functional comparison, shes an american performer who did some euro titles, and hoping that european women are somehow comparable or interchangeable with american women is not a reality. Click to expand I guess I really wasn't making myself clear. All I'm really asking about is for opinions on the US talent pool. That's all. Specifically, girls currently or recently available to work in the US for US porn companies. I'm asking because it occurred to me the other day when I was sitting around not doing much of anything, that there really aren't any girls out there that I'm really desperate to see. There are still girls I like, and that I'm looking forward to seeing more of, but none that I'm placing a huge priority on at the moment. So then I started wondering if it was just my perception or if maybe the industry is in a little bit of a rut with the new girls coming in right now. Or maybe I'm just getting jaded. Hence, my question. Europe is a totally different thing. While I think the female talent in Europe is far, far superior, I don't really like most European porn. So even though I find the female talent superior, I tend to avoid most European porn that is distributed in the US. I do think, however, that since most of them are not only great looking, but extremely uninhibited as well, many of these European girls can find themselves in great, great demand when they come over here. My purpose in referencing Monica Sweetheart, Nikki Anderrson, etc, was simply to point out my own perception that there didn't seem to be any really outstanding euro girls working the US studios right now. But, as Tricia mentioned, Claudia Jammson is working in the US now, which I did not know. So maybe she will be the next Monica Sweetheart. [Link]
aybesea Senior Member Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie! 1485 Posts 5/02	Posted - Nov 11 2002 : 2:15PM Porn Scout wrote: Europe is a totally different thing. While I think the female talent in Europe is far, far superior, I don't really like most European porn. So even though I find the female talent superior, I tend to avoid most European porn that is distributed in the US. I do think, however, that since most of them are not only great looking, but extremely uninhibited as well, many of these European girls can find themselves in great, great demand when they come over here. Click to expand Welcome to ADT, Porn Scout. This is a perfectly lucid thought and I can buy into it. I personally love Euro Porn. The girls are gorgeous, and I like the presentation. But I can understand how you might not. I do agree that when fine Euro babes come to the US, they can make quite a splash! [Link]
tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00	Posted - Nov 11 2002 : 4:43PM Sorry - I didn't mean that Claudia or Rita were coming to the States to shoot. I just meant that a lot of the US directors are shooting them on their trips in Europe. [Link]
Maximum Booty Member New Orleans 347 Posts 9/02	Posted - Nov 11 2002 : 6:39PM tricia_devereaux wrote: Sorry - I didn't mean that Claudia or Rita were coming to the States to shoot. I just meant that a lot of the US directors are shooting them on their trips in Europe. Click to expand Man I'd love to see Joey or Jules do a scene featuring Rita. When she is going full out she is pretty amazing. To get back on topic. I think the point raised earlier about the talent leaving quickly is valid. It seems the girls who get hot and stick around go ahead and sign with a Vivid or JKP. That said there are several newer girls I seek out. Taylor Lynn, Avy Scott, Felix Vicious, Kate Frost & Kacey all spring to mind. I still check out almost anything Bella Donna does, in fact I really like her post-Nacho look. She seems a little prettier to me these days. Aurora Snow is really turning into a beautiful woman as opposed to a girl and I'm frankly surprised she hasn't signed with anybody yet. Taylor St Clair still gets my attention as well. I here where you are coming from though. I'm still getting over the loss of Aylssa Love. Best Max Booty Its like butter [Link]

David-J Member 155 Posts 8/02	Posted - Nov 12 2002 : 2:08PM As a patriotic Brit I'd just like to say a word for our contribution to the American porn scene. Over the last year or so our fine British strumpets - girls like Flick Shagwell, Kinky, Jessie J, Karianna, Angel Long, and Ashley Long - have made some of the best scenes in US movies. They may not be as flawlessly beautiful as some of the Continentals, but they are cheerful, lively, and, most important, willing to take any amount of cock up the ass. [Link]
P-Knuckle Member 309 Posts 11/01	Posted - Nov 12 2002 : 3:40PM Here here to David J! I agree, as Angel, Jessie J, and also Layla Jade have been rockin over here in the states. Also, the canadiens seem to bring it, gotta put a good word in for Judy Starr... [Link]
Wally Senior Member 1821 Posts 8/01	Posted - Nov 12 2002 : 6:32PM you guys are forgetting the most beautiful of all: Hanna Harper. ..just take a look at the cover of Gutter Mouths 22 and tell me it isn't so. [Link]
calli cox Member 36 Posts 10/02	Posted - Nov 12 2002 : 7:22PM Although there are definately times when the female talent pool can lack, I don't feel this is one of them. Looking at the topic from both sides, being talent myself and now also being on the production side, there are 3 main categories I like to look at. First, the "old School" girls. I don't mean that they are old or have been around a long time, but they are established, well-known, and a lot of times contract girls. The second group I put myself in. Girls who are less known than group #1 and have been in less time. In my opinion, this group is one of the best. It contains girls like Belladonna, Monica Mayhem, Holly Hollywood, Kate Frost, Kaylyn, etc. The third group would of course be the newbies. There are several newer girls I have met recently whom I think everyone should watch out for...Boo, Mallory Marx, Christobel(not sure on the spelling), Melody, and the list could go on! [Link]
Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02	Posted - Nov 13 2002 : 11:14AM calli cox wrote: Although there are definately times when the female talent pool can lack, I don't feel this is one of them. Looking at the topic from both sides, being talent myself and now also being on the production side, there are 3 main categories I like to look at. First, the "old School" girls. I don't mean that they are old or have been around a long time, but they are established, well-known, and a lot of times contract girls. The second group I put myself in. Girls who are less known than group #1 and have been in less time. In my opinion, this group is one of the best. It contains girls like Belladonna, Monica Mayhem, Holly Hollywood, Kate Frost, Kaylyn, etc. The third group would of course be the newbies. There are several newer girls I have met recently whom I think everyone should watch out for...Boo, Mallory Marx, Christobel(not sure on the spelling), Melody, and the list could go on! Click to expand I actually did not realize that you yourself were currently active. That obviously improves the talent pool right there!! That's an interesting analysis and it makes a lot of sense. My original question, then, would probably be most appropriately aimed at the second and third groups you are referrring to, although it could apply to some of the girls in the first group as well. But I also think that there is another aspect to the talent pool that overlays each of the three groups you are referring to. Namely, willingness to do anal and other more extreme sexual acts. It seems to me that, unless they at some point are willing to do anal, most newer girls don't survive in the business long enough to get to the point where they could be considered as part of these other two groups you mentioned. There are exceptions, of course, but those generally seem limited to girls that are really, really beautiful and that have almost perfect bodies. It also seems like a good portion of the time, these are the girls that get snatched up by the Vivids of the world and placed on contract. I agree though that there are some new girls that are very good. As a Jules Jordan fan, I am of course familiar with Mallory Marx aka Trinity aka Meme aka Cara Patrick. The other girls I have no idea about. I have seen a number of girls come into the business in the last year and then disappear very quickly that I wish would have stayed active. One of them was a Mexican girl named Lolly that appeared in a couple of RLD titles. Another was this girl that called herself Peaches that also did two scenes for RLD and then disappeared. There is also a new girl out there named Anna Belle that is very, very hot. I do think that right now would be a good time for some of the better European girls like Michelle Wild, Patricia Diamond, Myli, etc., to come over to the US, at least for a while. Girls like that, with the looks, bodies, and yes, the willingness to do anal and so forth, would find themselves in super high demand over here. [Link]
David-J Member 155 Posts 8/02	Posted - Nov 13 2002 : 12:51PM Sorry I forgot Hanna Harper. I don't think I've seen any of her American movies. I also forgot Zoe Young (who is in one of the Unnatural Sex series), and Majella, who has done some hot scenes, though she doesn't do anal. There seems to be a new crop of Brit girls working in Calif at the moment. I've seen the names Bonnie Heart, Rose Petal, and Fiona, but I haven't seen any of their movies. Most of the Brit girls now seem to shoot a scene or two with Ben Dover or Omar Williams in England, then go straight over to LA to spread their butt-cheeks. The speed of production is quicker in the US, so sometimes they appear in new American releases before their British 'debut' movies come out. [Link]