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sir wankalot
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UK
904 Posts
5/03
Posted - Feb 5 2007 : 12:17PM
Why locate in Holland?

Having shot some footage in Thailand (some xxx) i have been toying with the idea of selling it by mail order.
The stumbling block is i live in the UK and i can not legally do this.

If i was to seriously consider this venture i would need to be based on the continent.

I notice many of the porn companies selling to the UK market are based in Holland, and i was wondering about the pros and cons of location compared with say...Belgium, Denmark or Spain?

Advantages

1. The most obvious seemed to be Hollands liberal attitudes toward porn. But is it really much different from neighbouring countries such as Belgium, Denmark or Spain?

2. Proximity to the UK. This obviously makes it cheap and quick to send correspondence back and forth to UK customers (including receiving orders by cheque/cash), but i assume the same price as neighbouring countries mentioned above?

3. Banking. Is banking any cheaper in Holland or any easier for adult companies?

Disadvantages

1. The one that sticks out for me is the added scrutiny Dutch mail faces entering the UK. I understand many companies distribute their product from within the UK but there must be times when a customer requests a title you have to ship in?

2. Rent. Isn't Holland (esp. Amsterdam) one of the more expensive countries to locate due to the high density of population?

Jacco All-Star Supporter
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5/04
Posted - Feb 5 2007 : 3:29PM
Hi Sir W, I'll try to answer your questions.

Advantages:

1. Belgium has tighter regulations (but not really enforced) Spain and Denmark are about the same regulationwise, but the good thing here is you do not have to hide what you do for a living at all. All my friends and family know what I do, we discuss work freely in the bar after work.

2. Postage prices within the EU do not make much of a difference.

3. Compared to the UK banking is cheaper here, and we never had a problem with banks or creditcard companies here.

Disadvantages:

1. Never a problem for us, we never send anything (not even a letter) to the customers from here, it gets mailed from within the UK by Royal Mail. Details of how we do that can not be discussed on an open board of course.

2. Rent in the center of Amsterdam is skyhigh indeed (allthough London is still worse), but we moved to the outskirts of Amsterdam some years ago and now we have more roome for less money. And if you go outside the west part (the Randstad) it's even cheaper.


So, what kind of stuff did you shoot in Thailand? We are always looking for new material...


Jacco

Gabriel Nine
Senior Member

Firecracker
1273 Posts
8/01
Posted - Feb 5 2007 : 4:25PM
Yes, I think if you want to get into more detail it would be better done via private mail. General points pertaining to shopping are of course most welcome!
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 5 2007 : 7:03PM
Actually I don't even discuss that by e-mail, you need to buy me a pint to hear more.


Jacco

bauer024
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It is what it is
1345 Posts
12/05
Posted - Feb 6 2007 : 2:12AM
jacco hope you and jay are doing good over there man miss you tons it was great meeting you in Las Vegas. i will buy you a drink and we will talk all about stuff when i come over there ok

Dan

 
sir wankalot
Member

UK
904 Posts
5/03
Posted - Feb 6 2007 : 3:27PM
I have been taking footage of the girly bars and the freelancer hangouts in bangkok and pattaya.
Interesting enough for people who have been there before and maybe want to try and spot a girl they know or re-live their holiday experience.

The 'hook' is i also got some of the girls who appear in this film to make an amateur porno with me (obviously for extra $$$). These are seperate dvds....2 or 3 girls on one film.

The normal bar footage sells well on ebay (especially with Thailand taking off as a holiday destination)...and any buyers are offered the chance to purchase the rude stuff seperately.

This year i took 2 camcorders out to get 2 angles...but i'd really need to get a second person (perhaps another Thai girl!) to do the filming.
It is extremely amateurish (so i'm not sure if it is worth trying to market at this stage) but it is something to work on and improve with future trips.

As the 'girly bar' footage has no sex i could probably push my luck and advertise it more extensively here in the UK.
It still remains illegal though as it is 'unclassified'...and i really object to having to pay for it to go to through the BBFC.

Sooner or later (especially with my links to the 'harder stuff' in the credits) i think trading standards would be on my case....and there lies the problem.


Edited by - sir wankalot on 2/6/2007 3:29:37 PM

Jacco All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 6 2007 : 5:20PM
We always welcome amateur contributions for our Viewers' Wives series. You can find all info for contributors here.

Jacco

sir wankalot
Member

UK
904 Posts
5/03
Posted - Feb 6 2007 : 7:25PM
Interesting series.
Not sure if i could get many of the girls to let me photo their i.d card. Making porn in Thailand is illegal...so they would certainly be worried about possible comebacks with regard to revealing their identity.

Talking of which...is it my responsibility (as a European) to prove a girls age when i sell these films or is it the task of any prosecuting authority to prove the girl was underage?
I understand that 'Yourchoice' being a bona fide retailer would not take the risk.

sir wankalot
Member

UK
904 Posts
5/03
Posted - Feb 6 2007 : 7:47PM
Just to state what we already know:

It seems clear that i would either need to be solely based on the continent (and endure any of the seizures/mailing costs of posting adult dvds to the UK)

or:

I would need a partner who (without going into the details) would either be here in the UK taking care of stock/distribution or to be on the continent running the business, advertising and banking side.

I see a complete contrast between the guy on the continent busy advertisng and promoting the business to the max... and the guy back in the UK who is anonymous and keeping as low a profile as possible!

jh30
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149 Posts
4/03
Posted - May 4 2011 : 7:56AM
Dear Sir,
Im very interested in your productions do you have a link to your ebay page or any more info on the dvds ?
Cheers



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