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floraman
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Germany
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8/03
Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 12:05PM
I'm directing this post in the first instance towards Tricia, in her capacity as a porn producer who contributes regularly to these forums, so that she can give her take on it as an "insider", but of course anyone else should feel free to chime in as well.

Speaking as a "consumer", when I visit both bricks-and-mortar DVD outlets or online porn vendor sites, I'm often put off spending maybe 30 Euros or more on a DVD just for a single scene that I'm interested in seeing. I might rent, but I won't buy. This is because there are very few modern US movies that I'm interested in actually buying because frankly, for the most part they don't cater to my own particular kink, which is girls in garter belts & stockings (although there is the very occasional notable exception like JJ's "Trained Teens 2", for which I cheerfully shelled out 35 Euros and considered it money well spent). And I'm sure that there are plenty of others out there who don't buy as many porn DVDs as they otherwise would because their own particular tastes in porn are under-represented in the vast majority of movies that are churned out by the big producers.

But how different it would be if I could download (for a fair price of course) individual SCENES from producers' own Web sites!!!!

Given what's currently happening with music downloading, as a (possibly naive) outsider looking in, this seems to me to be a possible way ahead for the future. That way a consumer could just purchase the scenes he / she is interested in at a price proportional to the street price of the movie in question (or entire movies at a more "regular" price). And the producer is still making money because Joe Consumer is prepared to spend say 5 or 10 Dollars / Euros or whatever to get hold of just the 1 or 2 scenes he's interested in, whereas he'd otherwise draw the line at paying full whack for a DVD just to get that one particular scene, and just rents instead.

I know that it's possible to view movies online and maybe what I'm talking about is already happening to a greater or lesser degree and I'm seriously out of touch (I've never signed up to any producers' Web sites so don't know exactly what they offer). And I'm sure I'm about to be deluged with cries of "yes but …" from people pointing out the pitfalls involved (I don't claim to have all the answers!)
But I would be interested to hear what industry insiders like Tricia have to say about it (good idea, bad idea or complete non-starter), as well as the porn-buying public at large.

Edited by - floraman on Jun 3 2004

picman
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2884 Posts
1/03
Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 12:44PM
What you're asking for is so simple and obvious that it will probably never get done. The video-on-demand schemes that are in place charge an exorbitant amount of money for DVD quality (not) divx downloads. And the kicker is that you have to be online to authorize your viewing of said file and it has a built in kill date that only allows you to watch it for a month. Talk about disposable media. I know there are piracy issues that come up in these discussions, but I think that providing scenes at a fair price will beat the pirates at their own game. Floraman, I hope someone listens to you.
floraman
Member

Germany
224 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 12:59PM
Exactly, picman - that's what it's all about: The producers are still making money, the punters are getting exactly what they want (and at a fair price), and the pirates are squeezed out.

Why is there such a problem with CD and DVD piracy? Quite simply because the retail prices of CDs and DVDs are disproportionately high.

If they were made CHEAPER, people would buy MORE from legitimate sources and the music & movie companies would in turn make more money.

cubesnake
Senior Member

3858 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 1:40PM
Hi,

I know what you mean buy wanting only the scenes you look for. But i usually never get this feeling with EA DVDs :)

While pirates all over the net can supply good quallity (DIVx or VIDx or whatever compression is used) rips of dozens of DVds on a scene per scene basis i often wondered why Studios couldn´t offer the same. And i ain´t gonna buy any scenes that carry an expiration date ... neither online nor as disposable DVD.

I´d rather buy the original DVD rip the scenes i want ... create the dvd i want ... and then sell the originals again.

Given the price for a dvd rental ... it´s almost not possible to beat that price with a online offer. But
i´m waaaay to lazy (nor do i know how to exactly rip and ...) to rent the dvds (if i can get them anyway) and rip them and re-arange the scenes for a custom dvd.

so i just get the original-dvds i want and skip everything else no matter what.

Cube

Edited by - cubesnake on 6/3/2004 4:11:44 PM

Edited by - cubesnake on 6/4/2004 3:15:06 AM

tricia_devereaux
Evil Angel DVD

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4283 Posts
4/00
Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 2:31PM
First, thanks for that.

floraman - I do think it's a good idea. We've looked into an alternative form of something kind of similar... A video scene warehouse company would digitize individual scenes from many companies. A customer would go online and order specific scenes, which would be burned for a custom DVD for that person.
No fancy menus or anything, but the specific scenes that they wanted to pay for.
The company we were talking to never really got off the ground, so we kind of sidelined the idea.

As far as doing individual on the company (and director's) sites in DivX format, that is something that I will see if the EA directors would be willing to do.

Thanks!

 
Walter Burns
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11/02
Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 5:40PM
Something like turning iTunes into iPorn?




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picman
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2884 Posts
1/03
Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 5:42PM
That sounds like a perfect analogy. Do you think Steve Jobs would be interested?
Crucifixio_Jones
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4727 Posts
10/03
Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 6:10PM
I was thinking more of an adult NetFlix (I was just discussing this with a friend of mine the other night).
picman
Senior Member

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2884 Posts
1/03
Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 6:43PM
There are already several rental outlets for adult films. Does netflix offer any other services?
Coyote
Member

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972 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jun 3 2004 : 10:02PM
Nice to know the wheels are really turning over there at Evil Empire/angel! Though it's not like I already didn't know that from viewing your product
Comet Man
Member

Boston
96 Posts
4/01
Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 9:07AM
Since the company never got off the ground, any idea
what they were asking to do the work?
Curious if it's worth doing ;-)
Kperv
The Cuddler

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(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jun 4 2004 : 11:21AM
Normally I wouldn't trust my credit card info to any online porn peddlers, but if Evil Angel chose to offer individual scenes for download I might well be interested.

Whether you choose DivX, MPEG2 or any other codec, I'd like to stress that for me to have any interest in spending money on the stuff it will have to be full DVD resolution and have a high bit rate.
I've yet to see any free samples that were even close to DVD quality.
Actually I'd much prefer the format to be MPEG2 in a legal DVD resolution. That way I would be able to burn it onto a DVD-R without any recompression.
Watching movies on my PC never appealed to me.

And also I wouldn't pay for any movie that featured DRM (Digital Rights Management).
I know (and fully understand) that piracy is a sore point for online content providers, but there's just no way that I'll pay for a movie that places serious technical limitations on how, where or when I can watch it.

Just my $0.02.

Anyway keep up the good DVD work at Evil Angel.




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