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| tbone Member 18 Posts 3/02 |  Posted - Aug 10 2002 : 4:10PMI've always wondered what sort of pre-filming discussions go on between performers. I'm not talking about more clearly "directed" scenes with some semblance of plot, etc., but particularly the more gonzo "in the bedroom, in the living room" type scenes. For example, Tricia, what did Joey tell you before the filming of Fashion Sluts #7 - did you discuss what would be done when? And in Nasty Nymphos #11, how did you plan out the scene with Mr. Marcus? And, to get down and dirty, do the women ask to see the guys' dicks so they won't be surprised (by size, etc. - and how often does that become a factor in deciding whether to go forward or not - obviously, this is more relevant to earlier performances in someone's career, when they've possibly not seen much porn) and discuss with them what they're willing to do and how much? I'm sure the answer is all over the place, but I'd like to know about those scenes in particular, as well as the general way these "negotiations" take place. Other performers are welcome to answer.
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Bill  All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00 | Posted - Aug 10 2002 : 5:36PM [Link] |
| tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00 | Posted - Aug 11 2002 : 12:52AM I think it's silly for a performer to not even know physically what the other person looks like before agreeing to the job. In that case, the only reason to inspect each other's privates would be to look for signs of any STDs. This is a rare practice, but it does happen with some performers. A lot of performers communicate before and during the scene about what they enjoy the most and what they're not so crazy about. In the 2 scenes you asked about, for the Joey one, it was my first scene, so I asked a lot of questions before that day, and was fairly comfortable when I got there. And Joey and I communicated a lot both verbally and with body language during the scene. Same with Mr. Marcus, but that scene just kind of seemed to flow on it's own. Often a girl is hired based on her past performances, so a director might say something like, let's for something similar to the scene you did in that other movie. And when performers work together more than once, they usually treat it as a learning experience about the other person. And yes, you're right, I'm sure it's very different for other people, but for me, I always tried to eliminate the possibility of any surprises. In fact, the only one I can think of is when I worked for Ed Powers. He had told me it was going to be him and another guy. I was in the middle of shooting a girl/girl scene for a different company during my negotiations with Ed, so I wasn't as thorough as usual. The only Dirty Debutante scenes I had seen with another guy were with Jake Steed. I had no problems with Jake, so I said sure. I showed up and about threw up when I saw the other guy was Jamie Gillis. Talk about a dirty old man!!! Truly the worst experience of my porn career. And yes, I'm including EVERYTHING! [Link] |
| Planet Sex Deactivated User 1951 Posts 6/01 | Posted - Aug 11 2002 : 1:11AM [Link] |
| tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00 | Posted - Aug 11 2002 : 1:56AM [Link] |
| Planet Sex Deactivated User 1951 Posts 6/01 | Posted - Aug 11 2002 : 4:33AM But that was the first time I´ve heard of someone retching at the sight of Jamie Gillis. I mean, the guy surely looks warpeder than fusilli, but... [Link] |
| DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02 | Posted - Aug 11 2002 : 9:10AM Gillis has done some weird , weird stuff on the camera and acquired something of a reputation for even crazier stuff off camera. Perhaps that is why you don't see very much of as of late. DenverDon [Link] |
| Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00 | Posted - Aug 11 2002 : 11:26AM [Link] |
| tbone Member 18 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Aug 11 2002 : 10:21PM So, basically, you're saying you've seen previous movies of your male co-stars and you know what they "look like" or you ask them before the scene to show you if you haven't seen them before? I mean, the size of Mr. Marcus or Jake Steed is probably what you hadn't experienced before...but maybe I'm wrong. [Link] |
| tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00 | Posted - Aug 12 2002 : 12:40AM As for Jamie, I wasn't talking about looks when I called him a dirty old man. It felt like he was doing everything possible to make me feel bad about myself. First of all, he kept calling me a cunt. I told him off-camera that it was making me nervous and uncomfortable, and he didn't stop. He asked me off-camera what my husband's name was, then on camera, he asked me if I thought my husband would get off seeing me fucking other guys. It was SO difficult to maintain any professionalism towards Jamie in that scene. I've never been able to respect him since. From the second I met Jamie, I felt uncomfortable. There was something inherently creepy about him. As for the part where Jamie and I were together in the scene, it was a job, and a job that I was glad to have end as quickly as it did. [Link] |
| GattMan Deactivated User Melbourne, Australia 129 Posts 1/02 | Posted - Aug 12 2002 : 1:04AM [Link] |
| tbone Member 18 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Aug 12 2002 : 3:57PM Thanks for the replies. FTR, I've stayed away from any Jamie Gillis movies since I saw that scene - truly despicable. tbone [Link] |
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