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All Forums > The Porn Pool > The Porn Pool Forum Page 812 > Question for Tricia: Evil Angel & MMV
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hurricane
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Posted - Apr 25 2002 : 9:27PM
Hello Tricia,

Here in Europe, the German company MMV (Multi Media Verlag) is the easiest and cheapest source of Evil Angel material. MMV has several DVD's out with Rocco, Buttman and Christoph Clark material. The price is reasonable, about 18 USD. This is considerable lower than for the original DVD's (import).

Unfortunately, the MMV DVD's differ from the original Evil Angel DVD's. Other box cover, other name, conflicting info on playing time (e.g. front says 2.5 hours, back says 120 minutes). And while "Euro Anal Teens" seems to correspond to "Euro Angels", I find no match up between e.g. EAT 3 and the reviews of EA 3.

Could you please provide some information about the deal (incl. reprocessing / repacking) between Evil Angel and MMV?

Can we -poor Europeans- expect in the near future more MMV DVD's with Christoph Clark material (Angels; Hardball; Beautiful Girls)?

tricia_devereaux
Evil Angel DVD

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Posted - Apr 26 2002 : 3:55PM
I have the understanding that German rules are ironically rather strict, and therefore US movies must have parts cut out before distribution.


I don't know anything about the running time, but our foreign salespeople will ask them to take a peek - perhaps this has to do with the running time of the movie, plus any extra footage?
Most likely it is the US playing time, versus the German playing time.

I am sure that MMV is doing everything they can to deliver you a quality product within their legal boundaries.


Thanks!

hurricane
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Posted - Apr 26 2002 : 10:41PM
Thanks, Trish.

> US movies must have parts cut out before distribution.

Really? Which parts?

> I am sure that MMV is doing everything they can to deliver
> you a quality product within their legal boundaries.

Great. I guess you would do fine as a politician....


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Posted - Apr 27 2002 : 3:00AM
hurricane writes:
You may be trying to match the wrong titles. Based on IAFD data, Euro Anal Teens 2 is definitely the same as Euro Angels 19, so you could try matching EAT 3 with EA 20. Not that they necessarily stick to the sequence.

I too am curious about this alleged cutting required for Germany - usually it's claimed to be the other way around - i.e. some US titles are supposed to be available in "Europe" with added fisting and/or watersports.

Hardz
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Posted - Apr 27 2002 : 8:12AM
Hardz to the rescue !

I hope the following info is helpful to you:

1. MMV releases a lot of EVIL ANGEL films on dvd BUT the information provided on the sleeve is VERY mis-leading.

2.Euro Anal Teens (MMV) = Euro Angels # 18
Euro Anal Teens #2 (MMV) = Euro Angels # 19
Euro Anal Teens #3 (MMV) = Euro Angels # 20
Euro Anal Teens #6 (MMV)=unknown (NOT a Euro Angels title)

3. MMV release German dubbed discs as well as English language ones BUT there is no correct information on the sleeves to indicate this. (Rocco / Buttman releases are German dubbed, but the above anal teens are original language)

4. The difference in running times is due to the PAL speed up (PAL runs 4% faster than NTSC).
MMV only use an approximate to indicate running times.

5. The issue of censorship is quite complex in Germany.

FSK (the German censorship body) does NOT cut hardcore features, because they can only legally be sold within German Sex Shops (therefore all Evil Angel titles released by MMV on DVD are the same as the US tapes).

Mainstream films which require lower certificates (so they can be sold in shops like HMV) get heavily censored for violence ( John Woo's HARD BOILED was cut by 40 minutes )

6. MMV have a very unpredictable release schedule so there is no way to tell what is due out and when.
Their web site must comply with Germany's unusual internet censorship laws, hence the information/ images on their (crap) site is very poor (the dvd covers are extremely hardcore so the image can not be shown on their site).

** I can only hope MMV release EURO ANGELS #13 (I totally love this film) on dvd soon because the Evil Angel dvd will not be out for at least a year or more **

 
Gabriel Nine
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Posted - Apr 27 2002 : 12:10PM
Hurricane, if this is any use to you, the Dutch company Shiva release a limited range of Evil Angel (also Elegant Angel and Extreme Assoc.) titles on the Shiva label itself and also Night Trips. EroDVD has them.

In my experience, Shiva's releases are the same as the US edition (sometimes with Dutch subtitles on VHS). They also use the correct titles to make things easy for you!
(Ero DVD are a good company, check the International Shopping forum for comments).

Hardz
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Posted - Apr 27 2002 : 3:20PM
'NIGHT TRIPS' (Euro label) recently released COCK TAILS (by Lizzy Borden) but I'm not sure if it's been cut.

I've not seen the US tape but the editing of some scenes on the Night Trips DVD seem very abrupt (esp. during Jewel De'Nyle's scene). This could be just poor editing by Extreme Associates in order to produce their *director's cut tapes*.

Anyone else seen this disc ?

hurricane
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Posted - Apr 27 2002 : 10:01PM
Thank you guys! Very useful information!
Gabriel Nine
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Posted - Apr 28 2002 : 5:37AM
Sorry, I should have made it clearer on my post that I was referring to the VHS tapes from Shiva. I only buy US editions of Evil Angel DVDs so I can't fairly comment on Hardz' comment above. But Extreme do this "regular" version v "director's cut" version thing, don't they, so that might explain the abrupt editing. Or perhaps not...
hurricane
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Posted - Apr 28 2002 : 9:31PM
Some time ago I bought MMV: "Anal Luder". Two hours, pretty girls on the cover, and hopefully a Christoph Clark movie. Big mistake! It turned out to be "Cumback Pussy 24" by Dion Giarrusso. Poor lighting and very weak action. Reminded me of all the crap porn I have seen.

Okay everyone, take note and avoid MMV: "Anal Luder".

hurricane
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Posted - Apr 28 2002 : 11:10PM
To be fair, you can also be very lucky when you buy a DVD from MMV. I recently bought MMV: "Rocco - Sexy Girls!", expecting a typical Rocco movie with some hot scenes and some fairly okay material. Well, I was wrong. This one turns out to be "Rocco's sexual superstars", a kind of best of the best compilation. Over two hours long, every scene is steaming hot, all girls are pretty, lots of fun + energy + diversity.

I highly recommend MMV: "Rocco - Sexy girls!"


PeP
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Posted - Apr 29 2002 : 1:14AM
Hello where in europe can i by mmv dvds except on erodvd.nl??
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Posted - Apr 29 2002 : 1:41AM
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Posted - Apr 29 2002 : 2:11AM
Is this dubbed, by the way? I always prefer the original sound, if available.

Actually a sort of running thread about foreign versions of DVDs could be very helpful: people who know that an American title is available under a different name in Germany or somewhere else could post their information.

I can offer one additional piece of information: "Küken 1" from MMV is "Every Man's Fetish: 18 and Barely Legal" from Leisure Time, and it is unfortunately dubbed in German.

(The trailer on my MMV discs also shows that Feuerteufel = Flashpoint. That trailer is in English, but I don't think that is a proof that the movie itself would be undubbed.)

ORGAZMIK
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Posted - Apr 29 2002 : 11:12AM
Feuerteufel by MMV is dubbed like almost any other US title released by MMV.

Peter




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