Question to cal444 about this........

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Hardz Member Hell on Earth 877 Posts 6/01	Posted - May 13 2002 : 9:27PM Having just seen Gangbang Auditions #8 , I'm unsure if I loved it or hated it, because it contains all the sex acts I love to see {DP's & DAP's} & the choppy editing I hate to see. I believe this film is edited by you (cal444), so my question is, was it your decision to edit the film like a trailer (BJ's fade , anal doggiefade , anal cowgirlfade & so on), or was it the decision of Gregg Alen ? I would have loved to see the position changes and some continuity but as it stands I simply couldn't appreciate this film. [Link]
vicg79 Member Toronto 93 Posts 12/01	Posted - May 13 2002 : 9:46PM I loved the flick, but I know exactly what you're referring to. This happens all the time in Ana/Dia films. I remember in GBG28, there was stuff like Molly getting it RCG, then all of a sudden she's in a CG DP. I guess it depends on your tastes, but like you, I'd prefer more continuity. Of course, I guess when you're preparing for double anal acts, maybe you don't want to see what happens between the cuts. Another thing about Anabolic stuff. I've noticed in the GBG volumes, usually there's times where the audio all of a sudden isn't in synch with the picture. Actually, it's more like it's just dubbed over the picture. Weird... And finally... when in the world are we gonna see extra footage in Ana/Dia DVDs??? Sounds like lots of complaints, but Anabolic is still one of the top 3 companies on the market today. I just feel they could be even better. [Link]
RonK Big Double Everything Fan Poor Turkey running for her life with Christmas Hat 3713 Posts 9/01	Posted - May 13 2002 : 10:28PM Having just seen Gangbang Auditions #8 , I'm unsure if I loved it or hated it, because it contains all the sex acts I love to see {DP's & DAP's} & the choppy editing I hate to see. I believe this film is edited by you (cal444), so my question is, was it your decision to edit the film like a trailer (BJ's fade , anal doggiefade , anal cowgirlfade & so on), or was it the decision of Gregg Alen ? I would have loved to see the position changes and some continuity but as it stands I simply couldn't appreciate this film. Click to expand Actually, to be fair to Diabolic, GBA 8 is not as bad as some of the other recent Anabolic/Diabolic titles. I remember Un-natural Sex 5 being more distracting; in one scene, just as the guy was ready to poke Delfynn, there was an edit break. Un-Natural Sex 5 review Gangbang Auditions 7 is even worse with very rapid shifts during the DAP scene of Aurora Snow. I would have loved seeing Aurora slowly get daped by Mr. Marcus and Erik, but no, a segment is shown for 2 seconds and then it disappears. The MTV type chops are very distracting and irritating. The worst recent example of bad editing from Anabolic is Gangbang girl 31. The edit was so bad that I had to write a not so friendly review, and I rarely write negative reviews to begin with because I just cannot be bothered. Ron's Brief, Spastic, and Discombobulated Review of Gangbang Girl 31 Hope Cal will not get offended but do take this criticism constructively and edit with more continuity. When I see an Aurora DAP, I want to see all of Aurora Snow's dap especially with the Mr. Marcus/Erik combination, from the initial entry to the end of the scene, rather than a 2 second tease that leaves me very dissatisfied. I can understand a trailer being edited this way, as the editor wants to create suspense and get people to buy or rent the title. A full release should not have quick edit chops that piss the buyer off, because he will feel that he is not getting his money’s worth. I would even prefer having fewer scenes, but instead have each scene be longer, with more continuity, and with all the action (as long as there is no looping). The rule should be: show everything. If the viewer is bored, well there is always the fast forward button. The reason why I even bother to comment is I actually like most of Anabolic/Diabolic releases and want to see them improve their releases. They are one of the best gonzo producers with hard action. Cal has also been helpful in providing information from the dark dark dark edit bay. Maybe Anabolic/Diabolic should let him out more often so he can see real sunlight and then see the light of increased continuity. Ron [Link]
snowden porn Member London 648 Posts 11/01	Posted - May 14 2002 : 5:31AM GBA8 arrived for me this morning. Haven't watched it yet and after reading this thread some of the magic hs disappeared! I'll probably leave it on the back-burner now. [Link]
Hardz Member Hell on Earth 877 Posts 6/01	Posted - May 14 2002 : 4:50PM Ronk wrote . I can understand a trailer being edited this way, as the editor wants to create suspense and get people to buy or rent the title. A full release should not have quick edit chops that piss the buyer off, because he will feel that he is not getting his money’s worth . Click to expand When a film is edited this way, I feel sorry for the girls because they put in so much effort (can't be easy taking two huge cocks up the butt), and the viewer simply can't appreciate that. I really envy cal444, because he gets to see all the footage that us fans are begging for. Why can't Diabolic give us all the continuity shots as extra footage, so that both fans and the director are happy ? [Link]

cal444 Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com 927 Posts 10/01	Posted - May 15 2002 : 4:53AM The best I can be is consistant and professional. We are in your face, wall to wall no bullshit porn and that is the intention.If you like one title and don't like another it comes down to taste. I proudly stand behind every continuity and edit decision I make. You can't please all the people all the time but you try anyway. We take great measures and thought to bring you the best of the best. I've edited everything for Anabolic/Diabolic "except for maybe 10 flixxx", for the last six years. As for "continuity" I think you're talking about transisions I try not to waste my viewers stroke time with 18-25 mins of non-strokable filler, we leave that to other companies. While I appreciate and respect all your opinions, I know G.B.A. #8 takes no prisoners and G.B. #31. kicks ass. I edited it. Cal In the edit bay looking for all that ghost footage I didn't put in....... [Link]
Asmodeus Lord of Lust az-mo-day-us 6338 Posts 10/01	Posted - May 15 2002 : 5:43AM Cal, all I can say is: RIGHT ON dude! Please just keep up the great work and keep all us porn freaks happy!!! [Link]
cal444 Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com 927 Posts 10/01	Posted - May 15 2002 : 1:37PM Asmodeus Thanks, A little positive feedback makes my day. Cal Rubbing one out in the cold heartless vacume of the edit bay. [Link]
BIGmike B-I-G-m-i-k-e 2335 Posts 3/01	Posted - May 15 2002 : 2:00PM Well, Cal, here's a little more positive feedback to ya. Keep up the great work... I try not to waste my viewers stroke time with 18-25 mins of non-strokable filler ...that's the attitude we need! well, thanks again, I should be ordering a few more DVDs from Diabolic before the end of May. ---BIGmike, over and out!--- [Link]
Hardz Member Hell on Earth 877 Posts 6/01	Posted - May 15 2002 : 5:27PM cal444 wrote I try not to waste my viewers stroke time with 18-25 mins of non-strokable filler Click to expand Can I have this filler material as extra footage on dvd please (instead of the same old trailers that are on every single dvd release? [Link]
cal444 Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com 927 Posts 10/01	Posted - May 15 2002 : 8:42PM Let me add to my earlier post, CONTINUITY is matching the close ups to wide shots, hands in the same position heads tilted the same way etc.etc.etc.. To move the action forward without going through the painful position changes you use dissolves because they denote a passage of time. In the case of Unnatural Sex the transistons are in camera swish pans. There are no fades in any G.B.A.'s except for the ones at the ends of scenes. The only thing that even comes close to music videoish are the 16/9 black and white interviews. As for audio discrepancies, directorials must be removed and replaced with sound from other sources sometimes you can only do what you can. Since ya'all are catching it I'll try -n- work it a little better. Cal Somewhere with very broad shoulders covered with super thick skin. It comes with the territory. Edited by - cal444 on May 15 2002 [Link]
Hardz Member Hell on Earth 877 Posts 6/01	Posted - May 16 2002 : 5:42PM Thanx for the extra info cal. What I mean by continuity is to see the girl get up off the cock, turn around, sit back down on it AND seeing the initital penetration too. Watching Gangbang Auditions #8 felt like my remote control was constantly skipping forward. [Link]
Bobinjax Deactivated User 15 Posts 7/01	Posted - May 17 2002 : 10:05AM I might as well introduce a controversial view here. Im wondering about Diabolic/Anabolic's fear of being accused of homosexuality. They seem to have a company-wide policy of keeping their male talent's identity a secret. In their GBG series it is a mystery when the guys change position. If one tries to see who is now interacting with the star it is almost impossible. Other GB series (i.e Sluts and Bitches)do not seem to have this problem. On your 2 on 1 series the same problem arises--I saw one where Andrew Youngman was identified in the credits, but his face was never shown. How difficult and time consuming would it be to pan up to the guy to show who is now interacting. The same problem arises for the "pop shot". It may as well be the same guy over and over since rarely is he identified. I do not think those of your customers who fear their masculinity would object to having the talent identified. I find this particularly perplexing since you have no problwm with clearly homosexual acts such as "dap" and dvp". [Link]
cal444 Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com 927 Posts 10/01	Posted - May 17 2002 : 2:28PM Penis + pop face = wood kill. As far as the homosexual thing goes, yes we have penises in our videos but it's not about penises it's about the girls fucking the penises to thier full potential. If you find yourself focused on the dicks you might want to check yourself. Cal Edit bay bound P.S. If we never show the pork vendors faces we've done the average stroker a great service. Meat puppets are headless thrusting torsos to us. I read one review where it was a three on one and the reviewer commented "whoever, the guys were they did great job", that's the biggest compliment that cameraman could get, no male faces from stem to stern. PERFECT! Edited by - cal444 on May 17 2002 Edited by - cal444 on May 17 2002 [Link]
RonK Big Double Everything Fan Poor Turkey running for her life with Christmas Hat 3713 Posts 9/01	Posted - May 17 2002 : 5:43PM Once in a while when the male is of a gigantic propotion and the stem is considerably larger than the stern, it would be nice to show the guy's face just for a few seconds so the viewer can identify the guy and follow his devastating exploits in future releases. Knowing the guy does have some use every now and then. Ron [Link]

cal444 Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com 927 Posts 10/01	Posted - May 17 2002 : 9:01PM Ron You can't match the pork piece to the pork vender? Shame. Erik is the wedge, Lex, well ya know, Jon Dough is the duel streamer, etc.etc. Cal Somewhere in sunny So Cal on the beach watching the babes. [Link]
Mr. Bulbous Member An ass that's a true Starr. 117 Posts 3/02	Posted - May 19 2002 : 4:09PM Jon Dough is the duel streamer, etc.etc. Click to expand LMFAO! No shit...It isn't a Jon Dough popshot unless it's a forked stream of spunk. -Mr. Bulbous "Move me and move me again..." -King's X [Link]
Bobinjax Deactivated User 15 Posts 7/01	Posted - May 20 2002 : 7:04PM Cal, Thought I'd comment on your two replies to my posting. You say if I am "focused on the dicks you might want to check yourself". Well I've checked myself and I'm bi--hence the focus on the dicks. Your homophobia won't allow you to spend a half second on the guys faces when positions are changed, but it will aloow you to a) film crossed dicks in a woman's mouth b) film a guy sticking his dick into a woman's mouth where another guy just came and c) film dicky bumping in DPP and PAP. I realise your target audience is not women or bi's, but perhaps you could reach them without losing your primary audience. You are so good in identifying dick characteristics (focus much?) can you tell us how to identify the folling ten who appear or have appeared in Ana/Dia multi-guy videos: Mario, Bobby, Jay, Vince, Joel, Mark (he should be pensioed), Billy, Tyce, Pat M and Mickey G. When you have told us about these I'll send more names such as the two newbies who appeared in GB auditions # 8. I realise you think the reviewer who said "whoever the guys were they did a good job," was giving you a compliment, but I have read a few reviews that comment the Ana/Dia videos use headless guys. If the guys are so unimportant why do some get $200 and less for a scene while others command $700 and more? I suggest you not tell Rocco, Tom, Jake, and Lex who (among others) have their own lines and seem to sell tapes on their name. Perhaps you could save a few bucks by using only two guys in the GB series and just keep looping--we cant tell anyway. In closing I would just like to comment on your "Wonder Anchor". He has done more dicky bumping that the most popular gay porno star or hustler. Yet we cant show his face. I stopped buying the GB series long ago. I sometimes rent them to see if any change has happened. In a word the directing and/or the editing should be greatly improved. Thanks for your time. [Link]
Asmodeus Lord of Lust az-mo-day-us 6338 Posts 10/01	Posted - May 20 2002 : 7:46PM Perhaps you could save a few bucks by using only two guys in the GB series and just keep looping--we cant tell anyway. Click to expand You got to kidding, right? I realize you're prolly only being sarcastic with this comment but if you really are bi-sexual as you say, maybe you should be checking out those types a movies to see what turns you on. In case you didn't know, Anabolic/Diabolic aren't companies that cater to that type of audience... Edited by - Asmodeus on May 20 2002 [Link]
Hardz Member Hell on Earth 877 Posts 6/01	Posted - May 20 2002 : 9:00PM Bobinjax made some insightful comments. Why are the male talents dismissed so readily in Diabolic gangbang productions ? As to the question of Bobinjax being Bi-sexual, why shouldn't he enjoy ANABOLIC/DIABOLIC productions ? He may not be their target audience, but that doesn’t mean he shouldn't watch their products. A lot of women watch GAY movies but are women their target audience ? [Link]
Asmodeus Lord of Lust az-mo-day-us 6338 Posts 10/01	Posted - May 20 2002 : 9:10PM Well Hardz, I'm not saying Bobinjax shouldn't enjoy their movies - he can watch anything he wants of course. But if you carefully re-read his post, he's accusing Cal of homophobia just because he doesn't get to see the faces of all the cocks in the movies he's edited. And that to me seems totally uncalled for, especially if he doesn't even know him in real-life... Edited by - Asmodeus on May 20 2002 [Link]
Asmodeus Lord of Lust az-mo-day-us 6338 Posts 10/01	Posted - May 20 2002 : 9:22PM Besides I think its pretty lame to criticize Cal like this, who's only doing his job and working for one of the best porn companies in existence. And by the way, last time I checked Anabolic/Diabolic were companies that produced heterosexual porn scenes, pure and simple. If anyone with another sexual orientation finds their movies highly erotic, great! But if not, why complain about it when that wasn't even the company's main focus of their movies? Perhaps they really should stick to the types of movies that do turn them on instead of bitch about the ones that don't... Edited by - Asmodeus on May 21 2002 [Link]
Wally Senior Member 1821 Posts 8/01	Posted - May 20 2002 : 10:49PM Sometimes the camera man is doing a great job of showing a fullbodyshoot of the girl getting fucked and suddenly he moves the camera toward one of the guys face/faces. Those are one of the most annoying moments in any Anabolic/Diabolic videos (when it happens). I don't care if is Lex or Mr Marcus or whoever, The less of the guy's face the better. If I get to see the guy's face 'cos a fullbodyshoot of the fucking going on is OK (I want to be able to see the girl's complete body) but no close ups please!! [Link]
Speelie Senior Member Fort Collins, CO 1191 Posts 5/01	Posted - May 21 2002 : 1:10PM I think Bobinjax's point is that he feels Ana/Diabolic have NOT "produced heterosexual porn scenes, pure and simple." Instead, they have some elements that he, as a bi man, finds highly suggestive of bi sex. From my point of view, as a straight man, these movies have some points that I consider highly suggestive of bi sex. This isn't what anyone is complaining about. Instead, what seems odd is that people are basically ducking the issues in their responses. "Of course it is straight, hetero sex," isn't very informative when the acts in question still involve guys rubbing their cocks together. Keep in mind that this subject is still wide open, and the porn world thrives on a sort of hypocrisy in which girls licking and kissing each other while getting fucked by guys is considered "straight" instead of bi. Ask some of the women who watch this stuff if a woman eating out another woman is "hetero." [Link]
cal444 Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com 927 Posts 10/01	Posted - May 22 2002 : 9:50AM I'll repeat my earlier statment, we have dicks in our videos but it's not about the dicks it's about the girl fucking them to her FULL POTENTIAL. Cal Somewhere in the bay [Link]

Wally Senior Member 1821 Posts 8/01	Posted - May 22 2002 : 4:11PM amen! [Link]
Bobinjax Deactivated User 15 Posts 7/01	Posted - May 23 2002 : 11:06AM Cal, Thanks so much for taking the time to reply to these posts. Rarely does someone who is at the top of his sector of an indutry take trouble to answer these suggestions. I am greatly impressed that you would take these constructive criticisms and suggestions in the spirit in which they were meant--i.e. we all want an improvement in the product to increase your appeal to a greater audience while still keeping your core (so to speak) consumers. Thank you also for taking each point of my posts and commenting on them. I can see why you have so many fans. [Link]
cal444 Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com 927 Posts 10/01	Posted - May 23 2002 : 8:28PM Bobinjax The pleasure is all mine. Before I was introduced to the forums and news groups I was working in a total vacume. The immediate feedback I recieve from ya-all good folks is the yard stick by which I can measure our product. I appreciate and values your contributions and opinions in regards to our flixxx. It does make a overall difference in the look and feel of our product. Cal444 Somewhere taking the day off [Link]
Bobinjax Deactivated User 15 Posts 7/01	Posted - May 25 2002 : 11:08AM Cal, Just to clarify. I was writing sarcastically. I do not believe you care what we think nor do I think you answered all (or any) of the points I brought up in my post. Sorry if I was too subtle. [Link]
cal444 Independent Editor CalCutterPost.com 927 Posts 10/01	Posted - May 26 2002 : 12:38AM That might be a double edged sword. Why so angry? As for answering your questions I don't know how much clearer or simple I can make it, we have dicks in our videos but it's not about dicks it's about the GIRLS fucking them to thier full potental. Yes the guys drive the scene without a doubt but they know the objective at hand and shoot with that objective in mind. The guys we work with are super-fuckin-human and they don't even want to see thier own faces unless it's a unusual situation. Cal Somewhere in the vacume dodging barbs. Edited by - cal444 on May 26 2002 [Link]
Bobinjax Deactivated User 15 Posts 7/01	Posted - May 26 2002 : 4:38PM Cal, Did you skip your medication today? Why so angry? [Link]
Asmodeus Lord of Lust az-mo-day-us 6338 Posts 10/01	Posted - May 26 2002 : 5:56PM Bobinjax wrote: Cal, Did you skip your medication today? Why so angry? Click to expand Give it a rest, Bobinjax. Cal already answered your questions as best as he could and now with this idiotic comment of yours it looks like you're trying to pick a fight with him. Just to remind you once again so you can get it thru that that skull of yours: Cal works for one of the best and highly respected adult companies in the world today and he's been doing a great job in my opinion. He already said that Anabolic/Diabolic is primarlly first and foremost a heterosexual porn company, and they make their movies the way THEY want to make them, period. Like I said before, if you want to see guys screwing other guys along with girls, there are plenty of those types of flicks available for you... [Link]
Bobinjax Deactivated User 15 Posts 7/01	Posted - May 26 2002 : 6:14PM Asmodeus, You must be Cal under another name. First he started getting belligerent and secondly he sounds like he is a grown man. Does he really need your help? Please check back --he answered none of my questions, and if my posts bother you--dont read them. Love and peace--Bobinjax [Link]