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Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 5:36AM Someone posted thhis, on Lucie's page: 2004-01-28 10:31 Lindafan (lucie) i have seen the making of "cleopatra", it was the first b/g action in your live, she was plant for a girl/girl action - see www.wahre-liebe.de Click to expand Interesting story. Very intriguing. Adamo cheated Lucie? Her agent? Can you help me there, Secluded Observer? Edited by - Sbando Boy on Jan 29 2004 [Link]
noproblemo Member 348 Posts 12/02	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 6:05AM ... or maybe she lied, having done b/g for other directors before! I saw a fresh report on Cleopatra's shooting in February 2003... [Link]
secluded Observer Member 741 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 6:07AM Sbando Boy wrote: Can you help me there, Secluded Observer? Click to expand He can. At that time my vcr was broken so I haven't taped that edition but I remember it quite vividly - although the wl-report was centered around Robert Rosenberg. It started with a small interview of her in which she said she only does girls. Then the wl-commentator mentions something like: it is only her that believes this and finally (I remember no discussion) we see her doing b/g, a bit reluctant I remember. As far as I remember there were further problems with her in the scene, too. Pictures here. [Link]
secluded Observer Member 741 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 6:12AM noproblemo wrote: ... or maybe she lied, having done b/g for other directors before! Click to expand Don't think so. She was very insecure... Btw, I had mentioned it before if I knew it was Lucie... [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 6:14AM Thank you, my friend. Excellent. Now, listen to this: you'll never guess who contacted me yesterday (thru' his girlfriend)... [Link]

secluded Observer Member 741 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 6:18AM Sbando Boy wrote: Now, listen to this: you'll never guess who contacted me yesterday (thru' his girlfriend)... Click to expand Thru his girlfriend. Someone raised in Auvergne? [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 6:22AM Typical, huh? It's official: Zsofia V. never did a blojow video: She's an Iternational Supermodel. The letter ended with the sentence: "there is some limit in what to show about people" which, according to a Magyar friend, is 100% you-know-who. Cool! [Link]
secluded Observer Member 741 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 6:30AM Sbando Boy wrote: Typical, huh? Click to expand 'Typical' is the right word or 'revealing'... Does she write anything else positive? That you are doing all the marketing for the girls/ that somebody else should do? p.s. I had hoped you got mail from her predecessor... Edited by - secluded observer on 1/29/2004 6:30:40 AM [Link]
noproblemo Member 348 Posts 12/02	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 6:30AM secluded Observer wrote: He can. At that time my vcr was broken so I haven't taped that edition but I remember it quite vividly - although the wl-report was centered around Robert Rosenberg. Click to expand Do you remember when this report was shown on wl and also when the shooting of Cleopatra took place? Was it end of 2002 or beginning of 2003? [Link]
secluded Observer Member 741 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 6:39AM noproblemo wrote: Do you remember when this report was shown on wl Click to expand 9th of October. noproblemo wrote: also when the shooting of Cleopatra took place? Was it end of 2002 or beginning of 2003? Click to expand sorry I don't know,wl rarely mentions these things. But maybe we could ask Bobbi Eden? She was part of the crew... [Link]
noproblemo Member 348 Posts 12/02	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 6:45AM secluded Observer wrote: p.s. I had hoped you got mail from her predecessor... Click to expand BTW, have you watched CC1 yet? [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 6:46AM secluded Observer wrote: p.s. I had hoped you got mail from her predecessor... Click to expand Never say never! Lilla is closer than ever! No, the letter was very formal but firm. noproblemo wrote: Do you remember when this report was shown on wl Click to expand Is this report in the Collector's Edition of Cleopatra (I have the regular ed.)? [Link]
secluded Observer Member 741 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 7:04AM noproblemo wrote: BTW, have you watched CC1 yet? Click to expand No, it should be out this month in Europe. But honestly and very personal: I don't want to attach too much to this (see below) No, the letter was very formal but firm. Click to expand I'd be interested if she mentioned where she got to know about you. Is this report in the Collector's Edition of Cleopatra (I have the regular ed.)? Click to expand Sorry, I dont't know. I haven't watch the movie so I couldn't even tell the difference. Maybe also with the help of Bobbi you might find out Never say never! Lilla is closer than ever! Click to expand I wonder why you don't hear that much of her even if she said in the DDF interview that she's busy. That makes me suspicious about non-porn jobs... Edited by - secluded observer on 1/29/2004 8:26:12 AM [Link]
secluded Observer Member 741 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 7:11AM noproblemo wrote: BTW, have you watched CC1 yet? [/quote] Oh, I forgot. There is a new review of CC1 on dvdtalk (the link you provided). Following the review and Sbando's infos that there were two castings this is only the second one. That makes me a bit disappointed because PW/LF talked on wl about their first encounter and it must have been quite an interesting discussion (she took a distance of ten meters and didn't want to talk with him) [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 7:22AM "I'd be interested if she mentioned where she got to know about you." Search "Sophie Wild" though Google. She also sent the same e-mail to www.whichpornstar.co.uk. Btw, Sophie has a tattoo on her shoulder. NO WAY she's not the girl in Blowjob Fantasies! She also mentions the fact that she never used her real name "outside of Hungary". Is the Internet outside of Hungary? I was wondering... If I take her @ address sophieparis@DOMAIN, remove the sophieparis part and add pierrewoodman@DOMAIN, what would happen? [Link]

Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 8:18AM And talking about VZ not doing hardcore, a friend sent me this link. [Link]
secluded Observer Member 741 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 8:53AM Sbando, in this situation you can realize what it means to not be sponsor dependent (positive, after all the trouble...). Another point I'd like to add: I believe the dedication that some of us show in searching for appearances of girls (that consequently leads to sites like your's and www.whichpornstar.co.uk) is mainly because production companies (with the exception of Private) are not very willing to help us id-ing girls (there are of course exception to the rule). And especially the boss has to realize that the consequence of his strategy to show new (and attractive) girls and be very restrictive in information leads to an even greater dedication! [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 9:05AM True. But it's also true that we must be very careful. Many of these girls have often used their full name for modeling. Everybody has a computer and everybody can google a name. The life of one of the models listed on our site got really miserable because of this. Her friends found out about her porn stuff, downloaded the clips from the Net, burned them into cd's and showed them to the crowd at a club of her home town. That's one of my accomplishments. [Link]
secluded Observer Member 741 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 10:09AM Sbando Boy wrote: But it's also true that we must be very careful. Click to expand You are right. Thank you for sharing this story. It speaks for you as a person... [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 11:09AM I forgot. There are ways to put in contact with Lilla, if you want (as a fan, I mean). Let me know. [Link]
secluded Observer Member 741 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 2:58PM question cleared Edited by - secluded observer on 1/29/2004 2:58:22 PM Edited by - secluded observer on 1/29/2004 4:08:14 PM [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 3:11PM .... Edited by - Sbando Boy on 1/29/2004 4:12:23 PM [Link]
futzi New Member 5 Posts 10/03	Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 8:37PM @sbando boy: first of all i love ur sides only miss some girls. to sophia i like her very much. and i have the blowjob video. i compered a few things like ear , teeth, liver mark. and iam 100% sure thats her. she dont look very good in this movie and the blowjob is not very good . but it is her . cheers and i hope u read this [Link]
secluded Observer Member 741 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 3:52AM Too many beer let me forget that my vcr broke later (picture quality was already very bad at that time). Anyway I took the time for the following transcript. I'm sorry, it's more German than English but I don't have time for more at the moment. Maybe some German speaking guys can help out. Wie immer erfahren die Akteure erst kurz vor Drehbeginn, was sie genau tun sollen - auch Lucky [aka Lucie], die einzige Novizin unter den „alten Hasen“ am Set. Die Angst vor dem ersten Mal verfliegt zum Glück schon während ihre Position festgelegt wird. Lucie: „Before I was nervous but now I’m o.k.” Wl: “Have you touched a woman before?” Lucie: “Yes, touched before but sex with a girl never before.” […] Am Set gilt Antonio Adamos Wort. Das bekommt auch Lucky zu spüren. Anstelle der girl/girl Szene hat sie in der softcore Variante Sex mit Cäsar [Steve Hooper]. Für gewöhnlich wird die Softcore - Version 1:1 für den harten Sex adaptiert. Doch Lucky ahnt davon nichts. Wl:“ It looks as if you have in the next scene sex with Cesar?“ Lucie: “No, no. I have a lezbo scene with Julia [Taylor]. Steve has Hardcore - Sex with Jennifer but I haven’t any Sex, only lezbo.” […] Auch nach der Pause ist weit und breit keine girl/girl – Szene. Lucky fügt sich in ihr Schicksal. Steve kann die Novizin mit dieser lustlosen Vorstellung offensichtlich nicht überzeugen. Lucky bemüht sich zwar ihren Job gut zu machen, doch dazu gehört auch das Wissen um den perfekten lüsternen Blick, sowie eine attraktive Haltung in jeder Position. Davon jedoch ist Lucky noch meilenweit entfernt. Bevor es mit ihrer Karriere jedoch losgeht ist der Lack schon ab. Das Urteil des Regisseurs ist vernichtend: The next two or three sentences I won’t transcripe because they are an insult to Lucky. Antonio speaks of her body, eating the wrong things and cellulite Die Situation am Set wird langsam unbehaglich. Bei Lucky scheint der Künstlername eher voreilig gewählt zu sein, denn Lucky bedeutet glücklich und danach sieht sie wirklich nicht aus. Die Tschechin ist restlos überfordert. Sie arbeitet erst seit 3 Monaten als Pornodarstellerin und hat aus der Zeit davor lediglich Erfahrungen mit erotischen Fotos vorzuweisen. Unter dem allgemeinen Erwartungsdruck verkrampft sie sich schließlich so sehr, dass irgendwann nichts mehr geht. Lucie: „I can’t, I have pain in my pussy.“ Antonio Adamo bricht die Szene ab. […] Antonio Adamo:“ Wir haben ein Problem mit der Müdigkeit der Darstellerin. Wir drehen jetzt schon drei Wochen, da ist es kein Wunder, daß sie müde ist. Aber zum Glück haben wir ja noch eine andere tolle Darstellerin.“ […] Die fehlende Einstellung mit Lucky soll später nachgedreht werden, auf den finalen Cumshot ohne Penetration reduziert. Lucie: „Today, I don’t know why, I have pain in my pussy. That was hard for me. Maybe now it will be better. Tomorrow I have only comedy scenes and then maybe no sex…without sex.” I can't guarantee that it's a 100% transcript. I don't know about copyrights, if there are any they are with Wahreliebe ENJOY [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 4:04AM AA said: "Antonio speaks of her body, eating the wrong things and cellulite" Click to expand That's called "baby fat", you idiot! Go back selling clams in Naples. You're the most boring director in history. And your taste is ignorance (TM Willem Dafoe). [Link]

noproblemo Member 348 Posts 12/02	Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 4:51AM I still have some doubts about this being her first h/c work. Indoors scenes for Cleopatra where shot in Napoli during winter. There was some snow in the town which is rare in this area (as mentioned in the press kit on Private site). So I assume it was January 2003. However, her first pictorials were already out on DDF's in December 2002 and the production date for Hustler XXX 18 is October 2002! "Sie arbeitet erst seit 3 Monaten als Pornodarstellerin" means "she worked for the first time 3 months ago as a pornstar", right? Sorry for the boring detective work... [Link]
secluded Observer Member 741 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 5:27AM noproblemo wrote: "Sie arbeitet erst seit 3 Monaten als Pornodarstellerin" means "she worked for the first time 3 months ago as a pornstar", right? Click to expand Ja, richtig. Sorry for the boring detective work... Click to expand You helped me a lot in the past and I do what my time and knowledge allows... [Link]
camaban Member Germany 437 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 6:30AM Here is the translation (hope you can understand it): Wie immer erfahren die Akteure erst kurz vor Drehbeginn, was sie genau tun sollen - auch Lucky [aka Lucie], die einzige Novizin unter den "alten Hasen" am Set. Die Angst vor dem ersten Mal verfliegt zum Glück schon während ihre Position festgelegt wird. Click to expand As always the actors found out only shortly before the shooting what they exactly should do - also Lucky [aka Lucie], the only novice on the set. The fear of the first time fades fortunately during the fixation of her position. Lucie: "Before I was nervous but now I'm o.k." Wl: "Have you touched a woman before?" Lucie: "Yes, touched before but sex with a girl never before." [...] Am Set gilt Antonio Adamos Wort. Das bekommt auch Lucky zu spüren. Anstelle der girl/girl Szene hat sie in der softcore Variante Sex mit Cäsar [Steve Hooper]. Für gewöhnlich wird die Softcore - Version 1:1 für den harten Sex adaptiert. Doch Lucky ahnt davon nichts. Click to expand On the set Antonio Adamo rules over the actors. This also includes Lucky. Instead of the girl/girl scene she has sex with Caesar [Steve Hooper] in the softcore version. Usually the softcore version becomes a 1:1 adaptation to the hardcore version. But Lucky anticipates nothing. Wl: "It looks as if you have in the next scene sex with Cesar?" Lucie: "No, no. I have a lezbo scene with Julia [Taylor]. Steve has Hardcore - Sex with Jennifer but I haven't any Sex, only lezbo." [...] Auch nach der Pause ist weit und breit keine girl/girl Szene. Lucky fügt sich in ihr Schicksal. Steve kann die Novizin mit dieser lustlosen Vorstellung offensichtlich nicht überzeugen. Lucky bemüht sich zwar ihren Job gut zu machen, doch dazu gehört auch das Wissen um den perfekten lüsternen Blick, sowie eine attraktive Haltung in jeder Position. Davon jedoch ist Lucky noch meilenweit entfernt. Bevor es mit ihrer Karriere jedoch losgeht ist der Lack schon ab. Das Urteil des Regisseurs ist vernichtend: Click to expand Also after the break there's no girl/girl scene in sight. Lucky submits to her destiny. Steve obviously can't convince the novice with this listless performance. Certainly, Lucky tries to make a good job, but in addition the knowledge of the perfect naughty look also belongs to it, as well as an attractive attitude in every position. However, Lucky is miles away from this. Before her career really begins, the lacquer already has come off. The opinion of the director is devastating: The next two or three sentences I won't transcripe because they are an insult to Lucky. Antonio speaks of her body, eating the wrong things and cellulite. Die Situation am Set wird langsam unbehaglich. Bei Lucky scheint der Künstlername eher voreilig gewählt zu sein, denn Lucky bedeutet glücklich und danach sieht sie wirklich nicht aus. Die Tschechin ist restlos überfordert. Sie arbeitet erst seit 3 Monaten als Pornodarstellerin und hat aus der Zeit davor lediglich Erfahrungen mit erotischen Fotos vorzuweisen. Unter dem allgemeinen Erwartungsdruck verkrampft sie sich schließlich so sehr, dass irgendwann nichts mehr geht. Click to expand The situation on the set becomes uncomfortable now. Lucky's pseudonym seems to be chosen rather rashly, because Lucky means happily but she doesn't look happy now. The Czech is expected too much to complete. She works only for 3 months as a porn actress and has only experiences with erotic photos from her pre-porn time. Finally, under the general expectation pressure she cramps so much that at some point nothing more goes. Lucie: "I can't, I have pain in my pussy." Antonio Adamo bricht die Szene ab. [...] Antonio Adamo: "Wir haben ein Problem mit der Müdigkeit der Darstellerin. Wir drehen jetzt schon drei Wochen, da ist es kein Wunder, daß sie müde ist. Aber zum Glück haben wir ja noch eine andere tolle Darstellerin." [...] Die fehlende Einstellung mit Lucky soll später nachgedreht werden, auf den finalen Cumshot ohne Penetration reduziert. Click to expand Antonio Adamo breaks off the scene. [...] Antonio Adamo: "We have a problem with the tiredness of the actress. After shooting for three weeks, it is no miracle that she is tired. But fortunately we still have another good actress." [...] The missing position with Lucky should be reshot later, reduced to the final Cumshot without penetration. Lucie: "Today, I don't know why, I have pain in my pussy. That was hard for me. Maybe now it will be better. Tomorrow I have only comedy scenes and then maybe no sex ... without sex. Edited by - camaban on 1/30/2004 6:37:00 AM [Link]
noproblemo Member 348 Posts 12/02	Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 11:17AM camaban wrote: Here is the translation (hope you can understand it): Click to expand Thanks for the translation. Poor Lucie darling! [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jan 31 2004 : 3:52AM Great work, camaban. My poor Lucie. Come to daddy Sbando, honey! [Link]

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