what im refering to is the practice of fucking porn girls so fast that theres just a blur of movement and the sight a pair of hairy balls slapping on the girls ass.
Theres also the obligatory 'OHHHHHHHH FUCKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!' scream from the girl.
I watch porn to see stuff that juicy close up penetration. This needs long steady stroked so you can it going in and out properly.
this fast fucking is realistic as that what probably most of us do in the real world when we are just about to pop when we fuck our girls.
However porn is not real, so please if any directors/producers are watching avoid this if you can.
Some actors are especially prone to the above. Come on! you are getting payed! fuck like this is your own time hehe!
I totally disagree. What you are describing is for old people who can't fuck like they used to, and tired porn studs that just don't have it them to fuck the girls with real authority anymore. I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for in the form of a Wicked Pictures , VCA or Vivid movie. Good bye
I find a variety of stroke speed, depth and angles to be the most satisfying in real life for both parties. You take it almost all the way back out and teeter there at the precipice for a few moments, feel those muscles milking your tip, mmmm, then plunge forward fast like you're going to slam it home but you DON'T...no...you go halfway then withdraw again, THEN slam it home.
Sometimes, when my wife's on top, I grab her arms just under the armpits to lift her up a couple of inches then fuck up into her at an amazing speed (and full depth) -- it sounds like pap pap pap pap pap pap pap pap pap pap pap pap pap pap because my balls are slapping her ass so fast. Then plunge deep, as deep as I can go, and lean forward to take as much of her breast into my mouth as I can, flicking my tongue against her nipple as I grind my hips against hers.
She doesnt's say 'OHHHHHHHH FUCKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!', she just moans almost continuously, sometimes orgasming while I keep going. I know that's sadistic, thrusting while she's coming, but usually I justify it by bringing her right back to that edge of orgasm again just as I come, and we climax simultaneously (besides, she tortures me with her lips and tongue after I've popped, I'm all thrashing around and going "no! no!" so it's payback time).
Point is -- stop telling people how to fuck. Some of us don't jackhammer right before we pop -- I like to be firmly embedded and have her milk it out with her cunt muscles, personally. She can squeeze me tighter vaginally than anally, although it's a close call.
Next, you're going to tell me to edit the scenes down to five minutes because that's how long we do it in the real world .
Erik Everhard and Manuel Ferrara are both excellent preformers and are among my fave porn studs but I gotta admit their frenzied style of pumping gets on my nerves at times. Sure, it feels great to them and the girls they're banging but to the viewer it can make the sex act too mechanical IMHO.
Mmmm...mechanical...yeah, and it makes the girls' boobs spin around crazily, bouncing, jerking, making circles on their chests...come to think of it, I rather enjoy it.
God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer 1726 Posts 10/03
Posted - May 1 2004 : 4:00PM
I find myself in middle ground here...
Sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't. EE is defiantly the "power" fucker in the industry now though - wow can he get crazy on a girl!
Although Manuel is my favorite over all porn stud to watch, Mike Stefano is close behind and he has that slow rhythm I like more often than the furry fucking.
Yeah, as far as watching , I must admit, I'd rather watch Stefano.
But I'd just rather not be watching, if you get me. Is it 6:00 yet? Dammit! I'm like a racecar in the red, and I need to be a mushroom cloud laying motherfucker, motherfucker!
if the action is too fast for you, how about using the slow motion function in your dvd player? (just a thought) ....Slow fuckers, now those guys are really annoying, ...they fuck like if they are asking for permition everytime they pump inside the girl ....nothing you can do with your dvd player there, unless you use your play/fastforward buttons at the same time. ..I tried it, it looks weird. like one of those movies from the 20s. .......People keep putting Erik Everhard and Manuel Ferrara in the same sentence. In my opinion, Manuel has a totally diferent way to fuck a woman than Erik. While Erik is like the bunny rabbit from tv that keeps going and going and going, he is very mechanical in his fucking, always aware of the camera, and worried about "open up" at all times, he never gets on top of the girls, God forbid if he ever touch the girl's body with his torso. ...Manuel on the other hand is nothing like that, he fucks the girl with abandon, many times he fucks like he just don't care that the camera guy is in the same room (great aptitud if you ask me), Manuel is alot more genuine with his body language and definitely he is not 1/2 loud as Erik. ..anyway, whay I wanted to say is:.... dead to slow fuckers! ..dead to the bunny rabbit!! ....ehehehe!
I can't believe it, I go out to do my Saturday shopping, and I come back and find this topic raging on ADT.
Spod, for you information, this is real rabbit fucking:
And here's another photo, another couple:
If the porn guys you are complaining about were true rabbits, the sex in porn movies would last a total of 30 seconds, the time it takes for a male rabbit to go from penetration to climax. Pretty boring, eh? In a rabbit porn scene, the rest of the first 25 minutes of the scene would consist of the female trying to avoid the male at all costs, and him trying to overcome her objections.
I will admit, I have compared Erik Everhard to the rabbit in my avatar, but only because the little guy has the same sandy-colored fur as Everhard's hair, and he's a champion studbuck, who's serviced many a female (and sired many a litter). As for EE's style, yeah he's on the fast side, but he's got other qualities - he's good looking, he's physically fit, he's young, he doesn't swear at or insult the women, he never looks bored (unlike so many other porn guys). You can't have everything, not in one guy.
As for the camera work in his films, I see the exact same stuff in the other RLD films I've watched - the never-ending penetration close-ups, interspersed with close-ups of the woman's face. This camera style must be a signature trademark of RLD; maybe they know that's what their core audience wants, and they're not going to vary it. This I find tedious, more than anything else about an EE-directed film, or a EE scene in a RLD film.
P.S. The first rabbit couple above are a breed called "Giant French Lops". The second couple are a breed called "Netherlands Dwarfs". The breed in my avatar is a new one, called the "Lionhead", originally from Belgium.
P.P.S. Cobalt 60, as always, your descriptions boggle the mind. I swear, you have a better imagination, and a better sex life, than 95% of porn actor/directors. (And you don't have to pay someone to have sex with you, I think they often forget this factoid).
variety, variety, variety, i cant say it enough. in general i have to agree that theres too much jackhammering, which doesnt allow the female to do much except hang on.
this must be the way most guys like to watch it, but s l o w, d e e p & h a r d can be extremely arousing if done right.
yes, i think cobalt should go into porn, asap.
variety, variety, variety, i cant say it enough. in general i have to agree that theres too much jackhammering, which doesnt allow the female to do much except hang on.
this must be the way most guys like to watch it, but s l o w, d e e p & h a r d can be extremely arousing if done right.
yes, i think cobalt should go into porn, asap.
variety, variety, variety, i cant say it enough. in general i have to agree that theres too much jackhammering, which doesnt allow the female to do much except hang on.
this must be the way most guys like to watch it, but s l o w, d e e p & h a r d can be extremely arousing if done right.
yes, i think cobalt should go into porn, asap.
variety, variety, variety, i can't say it enough. in general i have to agree that there's too much jackhammering, which doesn't allow the female to do much except hang on.
this must be the way most guys like to watch it, but s l o w, d e e p & h a r d can be extremely arousing if done right.
I really believe that all this, Too much anal, too much dap, to much rabbit fucking, to much circus acts, this and that post are more the consequence of so much porn without a context. ...is not the sex act or the way the guy fuck a woman at the end. is all the empty sex with to meaning whatsoever. gonzo porn is so predictable. And what makes it worst is all the kids screaming how great this or that video is just because they saw some naked chick in it. We as proactive ADT'ers should help porn producers with new ideas, because lets face it, many of those guys are more jaded than a 42st raincoater back in 80s. You see the game better when you are not playing the game yourself. I will always wonder why can't they add a little psychological game or twist to their scenes. And why if they do it the sex is so soft. Why they have this believe that raincoaters have not brains so why bother. But maybe like I said is cos they are jaded. Lets help them. lets give them ideas on how to make a dp or anal or a even a disgusting a2m more appealing to porn fans that need more than just a naked chick to be amused when watching their porn. IF they could do this I firmly believe we'll see less and less, I hate this or that sex act in the future. ....Honestly guys, when the scene is real hot and erotic you even forget if the girl took 3 dicks in the ass or only 2. ..think about it, if this were not true then how is it that that some hollywood movies can make you more wet that many porn movies?
ghostdog69 gets it just right. By far the sexiest scenes with cowgirl are where the girl does all the work --- you really get to see that ass bounce, shimmy and shake! I humbly concur that Teagan's CG in Bellbottoms 2 coud have been MUCH hotter if she'd done more of the fucking. Coincidentally, that is one of my favorite sexual things - having the girl in CG and doing virtually all the movement (esp. in a squatting position - which admittedly is difficult for most women to do for long periods of time)
What bugs me most is that the video capture, on even seemingly the highest quality digital cams, is unable to capture the faster movements without a blurring of the edges. It's those sharp edges that I bet a lot of us like to zoom in on and savor. I'm no technical expert, but maybe digital cameras just haven't caught up to Erik Everhard's and Mike Steffano's warp-speed, jackhammer fucking style.
Are there any techies out there who can shed some light on this?
I think Michael was just REALLY into Dillan that day! Generally, he is great at opening up for the camera and showing the girl off. RE: Teagan with Erik Everhard. Sorry to everyone who didn't enjoy it. I personally loved it. I asked Teagan who she wanted to work with and she didn't hesitate when she requested Erik. I prefer to let the talent fuck the way they want to fuck. It's not choreographed; it's real and organic. There were parts during that scene when Teagan tapped out because she needed a break! I will take that kind of energy any day as opposed to the Vivid or Wicked slow-waltz. To each is own, I guess. Just giving feedback to the feedback. Anyone who feels they didn't get what they wanted out of BELL BOTTOMS #2 can write me directly at brandoniron_99@yahoo.com and we can work something out. Thanks, Brandon
Brandon, you really put your money where your mouth is huh? I really respect someone who tries has hard as you and cares about what they put out in the public.
As a fan, I have been ripped off numberous times. As a producer, I don't want to have anyone feel like they didn't get their money's worth. The bottom line is that customers will vote with their pocketbooks. If we don't deserve your business, you should go elsewhere to spend your hard-earned money. Enjoy, Brandon
Alright but what about the health damage it could cause if a guy with a big dick pounds really hard and fast during anal sex? I can imagine the girls asshole could get torn because of the hard and fast pounding. I mean recently there's all these talk about double anal doing damage to the asshole but I think this fast and really hard fucking the asshole is the same.
I then ask myself do the male performers actually care what happens to the girl or do they just want to do their thing and that's it?
Brandon, I had no intention of criticizing BB2 - overall, it's a smokin' flick. The Teagan scene was good --- I was just chiming in on a matter of personal preference. Of course everyone has their own way of fucking, sucking, etc.. Some is more appealing to me than others to watch on film.
As I have said before, I'm already in your debt since the release of AGSOI2. That movie is so good it trumps any other minor complaints I may have about BB2 (or any other PXP release) regarding style, color ghosting (I know you're working hard on this one), etc...
Yeah man, I knew Erik Everhard would be brought up. I avoid any movie with Erik Everhard in it because of this. Besides the exaggerated moaning, his constant pounding pretty much ruins it for me as well.
What do you expect when a new-to-porn 18 year old is paired with a guy who has done over 430 movies (iafd.com)? And I estimate, he has been in somewhere between 500-600 individual scenes.
From my watching ~40 movies over the past year, there are darn few gonzo scenes where the woman shows some initiative, and sets the pace of some of the sex action, some of the time throughout the scene. From what I can tell, this is owing to a number of reasons: the age disparity between the woman and man/men (anywhere from 10 to 25 years), the experience disparity between the woman and man, porn directors counting on actresses being compliant, the neverending search for fresh faces, which also means lack of experience, and the increasing emphasis on rougher sex action, nearly all of which is Male-to-Female focused which means the woman has to be even more passive.
The few times I've seen an actress show some initiative (Tera Joy, Vicky Vette, Sandra Romain and Kelly Stafford come to mind) it's due to their being either experienced in porn, or they love sex, or have strong personalities, or all three. I estimate, however, that about 95% of the actresses I've watched are doing as they are told, or what they assume the director wants, or just following what the male actor wants them to do. And yeah, it can get boring. It doesn't help when you see some of the popular actor/directors calling the young actresses Slut, Whore or Bitch right to their faces, either. (Though I don't know if this is the case with this Teagan scene, I haven't seen it.)
A personal observation - Imagine having a thread about/with Teagan, Rabbits, Everhard and Ramsey. It's like a cosmic convergence of the highest order. But will this one reach 50+ pages like the original Teagan thread?
For anyone's info - a female rabbit is not compliant or passive. Given a choice (i.e., out in the wild), she will be picky about who she mates with. Given a choice, she will viciously attack any male who tries to force a mating on her, or even wanders into her territory uninvited. Rabbit sex is not for the faint-of-heart. If Max Hardcore were a male rabbit, he would be dead or permanently maimed.
To paraphrase a hokey phrase I once heard, "I will bet your dollars to donuts" that the best-rated Teagan scenes for this year will come from Joey Silvera and Vince Vouyer. They know how to shoot a girl and experience shows. I could be wrong, of course, but we'll see when the Teagan thread has matured like a fine wine at around page 500 by December 31st. Brandon
I shot Teagan with Erik Everhard in the just-released BELL BOTTOMS #2. I had her booked for A GOOD SOURCE OF IRON, too, but she backed out about 5 minutes before the shoot was to start! Thank God for Britney Madison. It was Britney who saved the day and did an awesome job in A GOOD SOURCE OF IRON #2. Given other circumstances, it would have been the lovely and talented Teagan eating those loads. Alas, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades! Thanks, Brandon
I am sure Teagan is far too busy and has many, many offers for scenes that are to her liking. She is not interested in doing either series at this time, but she certainly has an open offer to do anything she wants for Platinum X Pictures. What a beautiful young woman! Brandon
Like I have stated numerous times on this board already, if you don't enjoy watching me,rent another tape, save yourselves from the disappointment and the horror of having to watch me fuck for 30 minutes. Jim south's office is on van nuys blvd, i suggest everyone go line up and get there polaroids taken, so that i can be put out of a job.
I'm sure many guys out there could do the job just fine if only given a chance but then again it's all always the excuse of 'new guys can't get wood or pop on the right time bla bla bla'.
ramsey c'mon, YOU of all people should know by now that pulling wood and delivering what the director's want day in and day out isnt as easy as everyone thinks. this isnt about banging one's date after a night of beers and monday night football, if more guys could deliver high caliber scenes, then you wouldnt see companies locking all of the quality male talent down w/contracts. but then maybe Im expecting you to know more than you do. please, correct me if Im wrong. lates, Von S.
When I watch BTS, sometimes I am amazed that the male talent can keep, much less get wood in that environment. I really don't think I could do it. But that's just me. I assure you I would try though if given the chance!
I haven't seen BB2, but Teagan's scene with Eric in CD6 is one of her best.
Before I started reading ADT several months ago, I had no idea that male porn fans could feel so strongly and so negatively towards certain male performers.
What puzzles me is that fans like this feel the need to broadcast their dislikes ad nauseum on message boards like ADT. If you don't care for someone, avoid their films. There are some males out there that I can't bear to watch, so I steer clear of them, it's not that hard. Plus, I acknowledge the fact that others fans like their style just fine; I've got no problem with that.
I must admit, there is occasionally a male or female performer that I want to comment on in a less than gracious manner, but I restrain myself. There is a thread running right now on the Porn News forum about an actress that I dislike more than any other actress out there, but I am refraining from posting there, since the title of the thread is not "What I can't stand about So-and-So and why.)
Sometimes I think that certain ADT-ers should have their own personal threads, in which everytime they want to say something negative, they go there and post it. If another ADT-er wants to find out what is currently bugging ADT-er X, Y or Z, they can go there and read all about it.