Rachel Rotten

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I've met both of them on several different occasions and the have both been the sweetest people in the world. Rob is a nice guy with a positive attitude, and is extremely friendly. He didn't act racist towards me.

And Rachel isn't skanky, its just that she has a different style than what people are used to. She doesn't fit in the norm, which is why she stands out. She was also a pleasure to meet, and was friendly and sincere.

I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but I just wanted to let you all know that there is more to The
Rottens than meets the eye.

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When man invented fire, he didn’t say, 'hey, let’s cook', he said, 'great, now we can see naked bottoms in the dark.' - Coupling

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The History of the Swastika

From Jennifer Rosenberg,
Your Guide to 20th Century History.
The swastika is an extremely powerful symbol. Though the Nazis used it to murder millions of people, for centuries it had positive meanings. What is the history of the swastika? Does it now represent good or evil?

The Oldest Known Symbol
The swastika is an ancient symbol that has been used for over 3,000 years. (That even predates the ancient Egyptian symbol, the Ankh!) Artifacts such as pottery and coins from ancient Troy show that the swastika was a commonly used symbol as far back as 1000 BCE.

During the following thousand years, the image of the swastika was used by many cultures around the world, including in China, Japan, India, and southern Europe. By the Middle Ages, the swastika was a well known, if not commonly used, symbol but was called by many different names:
China - wan
England - fylfot
Germany - Hakenkreuz
Greece - tetraskelion and gammadion
India - swastika
Though it is not known for exactly how long, Native Americans also have long used the symbol of the swastika.

The Original Meaning
The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix.

Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck.

Even in the early twentieth century, the swastika was still a symbol with positive connotations. For instance, the swastika was a common decoration that often adorned cigarette cases, postcards, coins, and buildings. During World War I, the swastika could even be found on the shoulder patches of the American 45th Division and on the Finnish air force until after World War II.

A Change in Meaning
In the 1800s, countries around Germany were growing much larger, forming empires; yet Germany was not a unified country until 1871. To counter the feeling of vulnerability and the stigma of youth, German nationalists in the mid-nineteenth century began to use the swastika, because it had ancient Aryan/Indian origins, to represent a long Germanic/Aryan history.

By the end of the nineteenth century, the swastika could be found on nationalist German volkisch periodicals and was the official emblem of the German Gymnasts' League.

In the beginning of the twentieth century, the swastika was a common symbol of German nationalism and could be found in a multitude of places such as the emblem for the Wandervogel, a German youth movement; on Joerg Lanz von Liebenfels' antisemitic periodical Ostara; on various Freikorps units; and as an emblem of the Thule Society.

Hitler and the Nazis
In 1920, Adolf Hitler decided that the Nazi Party needed its own insignia and flag. For Hitler, the new flag had to be "a symbol of our own struggle" as well as "highly effective as a poster." (Mein Kampf, pg. 495)

On August 7, 1920, at the Salzburg Congress, this flag became the official emblem of the Nazi Party.

In Mein Kampf, Hitler described the Nazis' new flag: "In red we see the social idea of the movement, in white the nationalistic idea, in the swastika the mission of the struggle for the victory of the Aryan man, and, by the same token, the victory of the idea of creative work, which as such always has been and always will be anti-Semitic." (pg. 496-497)

Because of the Nazis' flag, the swastika soon became a symbol of hate, antisemitism, violence, death, and murder.

What Does the Swastika Mean Now?
There is a great debate as to what the swastika means now. For 3,000 years, the swastika meant life and good luck. But because of the Nazis, it has also taken on a meaning of death and hate.

These conflicting meanings are causing problems in today's society. For Buddhists and Hindus, the swastika is a very religious symbol that is commonly used. Chirag Badlani shares a story about one time when he went to make some photocopies of some Hindu Gods for his temple. While standing in line to pay for the photocopies, some people behind him in line noticed that one of the pictures had a swastika. They called him a Nazi.

Unfortunately, the Nazis were so effective at their use of the swastika emblem, that many do not even know any other meaning for the swastika. Can there be two completely opposite meanings for one symbol?

In ancient times, the direction of the swastika was interchangeable as can be seen on an ancient Chinese silk drawing.

Some cultures in the past had differentiated between the clockwise swastika and the counter-clockwise sauvastika. In these cultures the swastika symbolized health and life while the sauvastika took on a mystical meaning of bad-luck or misfortune.

But since the Nazis use of the swastika, some people are trying to differentiate the two meanings of the swastika by varying its direction - trying to make the clockwise, Nazi version of the swastika mean hate and death while the counter-clockwise version would hold the ancient meaning of the symbol, life and good-luck.

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Max Booty
"She smells like angels ought to smell."
Frank Miller, Sin City

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One day I was watching vintage cartoons and was surpised to see an indian riding a white horse with a black swastika on its ass.

-T.C.

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Now, he might still not be a nazi, as the tattoo looks quite old. But, its a definite bold choice to tattoo such a design on you. If he isn't a white power neo nazi anymore, I would hope he would cover it or gets it lasered off.

Now, Rachel Rotten and Rob are definitely fun to watch; I liked 'little runaways' but I also wish Rachel would work with someone else also. He's got a good thing going though; I wish I could wake up and make money by fucking my gf. Not a bad life....

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I certainly like Ranchel's look, and though Rob's not really the kind of guy I really want to watch shagging someone, BUT there were really 2 types of Punks that got swastikas and iron crosses anbd all the rest - real nazi-wannabes, and then just punks who got the tatts wore the symbols etc for shock value rather then for any kind of Nazi sympathies...

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As far as her being skanky, that's just my opinion. I don't mean anything bad, she's just not very pretty to me. I dig goth looking or punk-type chicks sometimes, however, I'm 32 and work in healthcare, so...

Also, they may be nice people. I knew a lot of skins, punks, goths, Nazi skins, mods, and other people like that when I was a skin and I liked most of them. They were much nicer than jocks or "normal" kids. The Nazi skins were the only ones who were assholes, but my best friend knew a member of the local KKK and AWB at the time, so we never got much shit. They just tried to convert us, lol.

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You'd probably find that "the scene" still has rules and meanings today, depending on where and what you were/are.

Anyone can be nice people though, and I think pretty much everyone is, to someone - by this, (and this is a bit of a tangent since I know nothing of the Rottens besides this thread and their website's front page, I know nothing of their political beliefs if they have any, personal beliefs, or anything.)

I mean that even the most evil fuckers you can think of in the history of the planet are probably quite ok to other people that are like themselves, sharing their beliefs, or their own families.. After all we know that Hitler loved children and Dogs..

scipio

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She is hot! The guy is a dork. If she doesn't do boy/girl without him, then I won't look for any of her work.

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I seem to recall that hot performer from the early 90's, Jordan Lee having a swastika on her ankle, as well. What's the story there?

Edited by - Crucifixio_Jones on 5/27/2004 9:52:52 AM

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Edited by - IWAdult on 2/24/2008 9:23:46 PM

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