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NomnoMnOm
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Posted - Jan 12 2017 : 7:16PM
You're the real racist for seeing racism in her posts. No, I'm only joking
No, but seriously, from what I saw, she seems like one of the types to use racial slurs in an attempt to try be appear edgy and offend people. I don't know if she actually harbors any hatred or ill-will towards entire races of people.
lobster lobster
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10/16
Posted - Jan 13 2017 : 2:40AM
yes as i said, Romance has posted admiration for Bob Marley and other black or multi-ethnic musicians. she even wears her hair in dreadlocks. she has also indicated support for Bernie Sanders and criticism of Donald Trump. this is not the profile of a neo-Nazi or even an extreme right wing person.
those old tweets of hers were definitely fucking racist. but it is apparent she likes to offend people on social media. she thinks of herself as a "loudmouth punk rock bitch." she teased her conservative friend that her goal is to be more offensive than him on twitter. after she took down the Nazi flag picture she posted this:
all that is juvenile, stupid, disingenuous. but that is not someone with an actual political agenda.
she is unintelligent. she is pretentious. she is not a neo-Nazi
i do not care about her, i never knew about her before i clicked this thread. i have never seen any of her porn, i will never seek it out.
i am not even defending her. i only post here as counterpoint to hysteria and outrage. so much of it everywhere these days
i have known people with her kind of attitude. that says nothing about me
lobster lobster
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Posted - Jan 13 2017 : 2:58AM
imo Ophelia Rain is much more problematic. that is a photo of her with an outright neo-Nazi and her indicating her support for him. there is no way for her to rationalize or dance around that. she is deserving of all backlash.
but i repeat that it makes no sense. she is Jewish and has sex with black men. isn't that the direct opposite of the neo-Nazi ideology of antisemitism and white supremacy? it is like that Chappelle's show skit with the old black guy who is a Klu Klux Klan member. it is so idiotic of Ophelia Rain that it seems like comedy.
i only know of Ophelia Rain because of Joanna Angel, who i respect. i am surprised Joanna hangs with her. someone should ask Joanna about this. she is usually very interactive
lobster lobster
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Posted - Jan 13 2017 : 5:15AM
Ophelia and her black bartender buddy
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Ophelia and the punk rocker Davey Bales, who is half black
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Ophelia showing her admiration for the actor Keeshan Giles
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Ophelia and Asa akira
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bumblaster
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Posted - Jan 13 2017 : 5:22AM
^curious what would be those people's reactions if they knew of her proclivities. Probably nothing unfortunately.
I love the world nowadays: act like a dumb racist or actually be a racist and now one gives a fuck and there are zero consequences to your actions.
Cheers
Edited by - bumblaster on 1/13/2017 5:27:45 AM
lobster lobster
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Posted - Jan 13 2017 : 5:36AM
all those are from just the past year. you can find many more pics of Ophelia Rain happily hanging out with people of all races on her instagram.
this is not the profile of a neo-Nazi
more and more it seems like her pic with the neo-Nazi was an elaborate troll job. if he knew anything about her lifestyle he would be disgusted by her
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bumblaster
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Posted - Jan 13 2017 : 5:40AM
still sad times when racism (pretend or real) is used as a punchline.
lobster lobster
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Posted - Jan 13 2017 : 5:44AM
you sound disappointed she is not a racist
bumblaster
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Posted - Jan 13 2017 : 5:57AM
I don't know what she is or isn't (because the "I have Black friends" excuse is she just that, an excuse)
And I am rarely if ever disappointed about racists or racism because it is rampant but I'm always disappointed in apologists (which I am not saying you are part of).
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 13 2017 : 7:29PM
Having had too many encounters with neonazi skinheads in the past I can say that consistency and logic are not their strong points.
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Harri Patel
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Posted - Jan 13 2017 : 10:14PM
Would you say the post that launched this thread is such a polite invitation?
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 3:42AM
Most people don't want their money going to support racists. Most people watch porn. Most punks hate Nazis, so if anything more of Joanna's fans are likely to care than the majority of the population, who also do care.
misspornUSA
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 11:02AM
^I don't know how many of Burning Angel's members and regular customers define themselves as punks. Neither do I know how many members/customers would give up Burning Angel because Joanna occasionally shoots a racist performer. Certainly at least some members/customers are simply interested in watching tattooed pornstars have sex, and don't care beyond that. The number of those who do care may be much greater, a little larger, or roughly the same as those who don't. Or maybe it's a smaller number. We don't know.
Pr0nz
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 2:07PM
Ophelia no longer has IR on her availability, as well she tagged her photo with a known white supremacist with the "#pure" implying pure blood, even if she is Jewish there are many self hating Jews that even became Nazis themselves and changed their name to fit in easier.
Ophelia is at the Burning Angel booth for every event, feature dancing with her, and personal friends with Joanna. As a fan I can speak with my money and not support the website or company until things like this are confronted.
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Edited by - Pr0nz on 1/14/2017 2:09:31 PM
 
misspornUSA
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 2:11PM
Has anyone contacted Joanna to inquire about Ophelia, or contacted Ophelia directly?
Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 3:19PM
Why would someone do that. It is easier to make blind statements.
bumblaster
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 3:33PM
I contacted the website and told them I was no longer subscribing because of Romance's swastika post and this was their answer: I will
pass your comments along to the appropriate department.
This was December 26th.
LCF All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 6:11PM
Ophelia Rain is Jewish
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 6:15PM
You threatened y them trying to force them to do something of your liking and they get pissefd , is that what you mean?
misspornUSA
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 7:04PM
What's your view of the picture she took and the #pure tag?
misspornUSA
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 7:11PM
Joanna hasn't worked with Romance recently and I see no real basis from which to conclude that she will work with her again. The same can't be said of Ophelia.
No one's contacted either Joanna or Ophelia about any of this via social media?
misspornUSA
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 7:12PM
Burning Angel's response seems pretty standard to me.
bumblaster
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 7:20PM
Dude, what's your glitch?
I informed them I would no longer be subscribing to their website. That's not a threat, it's a fact.
Where do you read that they got pissed?
tookie
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 8:36PM
I have to say it strikes me as kid of funny, this idea that it's up to the public to contact them and say, 'Hey what's up with the Nazi shit?'
 
lobster lobster
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 8:50PM
if you want an answer it is up to you to ask the question.
if you make an accusation you should give the subject an opportunity to defend.
otherwise it is just a snap judgment.
some people just want to make a snap judgment. that is why the internet is overflowing with mob justice and hysteria. it is the outrage culture.
misspornUSA
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 9:46PM
^^If members/costumers are concerned, it makes sense for them to contact the appropriate parties.
high_flyin5
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 10:07PM
Pretty sure nobody in here is engaging in hysteria. But then again, it wouldn't be a message board without someone hand-wringing about "outrage culture" over people voicing their criticisms.
Edited by - high_flyin5 on 1/14/2017 10:47:39 PM
Captain Jack All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 10:11PM
I'm supposed to interview Joanna this week so I'll make a note to ask about it since everyone is up in arms.
misspornUSA
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Posted - Jan 14 2017 : 11:23PM
^That is good news.
tookie
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 4:57AM
If a company is selling tainted meat is it my responsibility to ask how they feel about botulism? I don't think so. I just make a note to avoid their products.
NomnoMnOm
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 5:49AM
Romance is retired from porn, anyway. Contacting companies she has shot for is unnecessary.
Also Leya Falcon, who has a biracial child, is long time friends with her and has vouched for her not actually being a racist.
bumblaster
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 7:09AM
If I wear a t-shirt saying "rapists are cool", even as a joke, I hope we still live in a society that will make "snap judgments." So yes I am making one about Romance and now Ophelia.
There are no "snap judgments" about Joanna, just questions. Where is there mob justice and hysteria? Is she being disallowed to make a living? Have her servers been attacked? Are there protests in front of her HQ? One thread on a message board is considered by you to be mob justice and hysteria? Talk about "outrage culture"....
misspornUSA
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 10:49AM
It's not a question of "responsibility" in this case. A person can make a decision to stop supporting Burning Angel based on an incomplete picture, or that person may want pursue a fuller picture so that their decision is better informed.
misspornUSA
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 10:53AM
^^^Did vouching for her include an adequate explanation of both Romance's racist comments and the selfie she took in front of the symbol of a genocidal regime?
Edited by - misspornUSA on 1/15/2017 10:54:07 AM
 
NomnoMnOm
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 11:05AM
^Neither of those were addressed, no, only that they've been friends long before Romance began porn.
misspornUSA
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 11:12AM
^Then the vouching doesn't amount to much imo.
NomnoMnOm
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 11:17AM
^ Fair enough.
But I would give Leya the benefit of doubt that she wouldn't defend and continue to be friends with someone she truly thought was racist.
Pr0nz
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 11:21AM
I was told they are aware of the post and that Ophelia is Jewish and friends with Jewish people....
Then they agreed to have her at their booth and dancing with Joanna, so they are aware of this and have made their decision that their friendship is stronger than any post of Ophelia with white Supremecists calling herself pure blooded.....
Very saddening.
LCF All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 11:44AM
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 11:45AM
You're the best, as usual. Thank you very much
bumblaster
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 12:09PM
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 12:19PM

^
I think we made our point ,we disagree and that's it
bumblaster
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 12:31PM
^how can we disagree when I have no idea what you're talking about and I'm not sure you understand the language...
But yeah, moving on from you.
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Posted - Jan 15 2017 : 4:36PM
^
Well I saw that many others told you the very same thing I'm telling you from the beginning... It's not me the one having problems here
misspornUSA
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Posted - Jan 29 2017 : 3:37PM
From Captain Jack's interview:
Edited by - misspornUSA on 1/29/2017 3:37:49 PM
Quorrl
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Posted - Jan 29 2017 : 4:06PM

Thanks to Captain Jack for asking the question; now everyone can shape or reevaluate his opinion on Joanna's relation to these persons.
tookie
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11/06
Posted - Jan 29 2017 : 5:40PM
Well okay, but it wasn't a couple of years ago.
You can see here that Jeff Schoep retweeted on May 20, 2016
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She removed the tweet but you can see in the cached version that it's that same one.
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And if you look at the bottom there you can see that she 'liked' his retweet.
Which as of right now at least you can still see on his twitter

tripper
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Posted - Jan 29 2017 : 11:13PM
This is one thread I would like to see end. So some porn whore made some stupid mistakes. Oh my, six o'clock news. And she is gone, so who cares. Let's make this into a Watergate investigation. Maybe some Deep Throat informer will come out. Come on, what are we looking for here. We want to take down Joanna because she used her as a model. Joanna is a long time and well respected professional in the industry, and Captain Jack has a lot of creds here also. I'll just go with the CJ interview.
misspornUSA
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Posted - Jan 30 2017 : 12:23AM
^The discussion on this thread has developed beyond just Romance.
Edited by - misspornUSA on 1/30/2017 12:24:06 AM
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 30 2017 : 2:27AM
Seems she is probably bullshitting Joanna. As I said earlier, she is probably a very confused person, her own comments to Joanna reflect that. Perhaps she is having trouble extracting herself from her former 'friendship' with these guys. Not exactly the types you want to insult and piss off.

Edited by - BlackSix on 1/30/2017 2:31:29 AM

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