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paulyd
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Posted - Mar 20 2014 : 4:55PM
Has there ever been something like this? There was a funny commericial that is fake on this with Bar Rafaeli and she said if 1 million dollars is raised, then she would do a sex video. This is one of those spoof videos which aren't real. It then has the amount going up to 1 million dollars real quick in the picture when many ppl call and do donations.
I'm wondering do you think its possible for enough money to be raised for a pornstar to come back and just do 1 video etc? The same can be said of like a certain girl who only does girl on girl and never hardcore.
The reason why i thought about this was to me the best looking pornstar ever is Susie Diamond AKA Suzie Diamond. She retired back in 2007. She is one of those pornstars that i would love to see her back. It would be a dream video if she participated in a gangbang video such as cz3chgangb3ngs.
She had done gangbang videos before but its always with 3 guys at the most. It would probably be a dream if i could see her in this type of video production. I wonder for someone like her, do you think its possible she would come back and do a porn scene if the money was right? Like imagine 2000 Susie Diamond AKA Suzie Diamond fans would donate 25 dollars for her to do a video like that where there would be $50,000 in donations. Of course some amount will have to go to the porn director and the ppl filming it etc. So lets say she got offered 35,000 to do this. Do you think she would just for 1 porn video? However, it would be like cz3chgangb3ng so it would be like 20 guys fucking her. I'm thinking if it was a regular scene with just a few guys she would do it but not with that many guys? Or you think someone like her would say i quit it, im not doing it anymore.
The thing is i seen a video of her where she fucked this guy named Torbes many years ago. And as many of you know, Torbes is hideous so if she fuck him, there would be tons of guys she would fuck. But do you think someone like Susie Diamond AKA Suzie Diamond would not do it anymore b/c she is older? She retired pretty young at 23 when doing porn and has been out of the porn business for 6 years already. However, i seen some videos she done on youtube with fleshlight etc but of course this is just like going to those convention and picture etc.
But besides her, do you think any pornstar who retired would come back and do a scene if they were offered a good amount of money? I know many pornstars get paid max $2000 per scene it seems with the average being much lower. But would someone ever turn down this type of money? The same can be said about those pornstars that won't do b/g girls. Would they do it for much more?
Topic Moved by - flash on Mar 20 2014
Jaktarn
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Posted - Mar 20 2014 : 5:47PM
very interesting topic. For some reason I think Indie Gogo and Kickstarter wouldn't accept these kind of campaigns but if someone would find an option that would i'd be interested to create and support some campaigns like that.
shalalin
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Posted - Mar 20 2014 : 7:02PM
Oookay...
I P Freely
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Posted - Mar 20 2014 : 7:33PM
Start a fund for Kristarra Barrington and I'll donate.
Macko69
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Posted - Mar 20 2014 : 9:09PM
I'd pay to see Blondie Bee, Kascha, Sandra Scream or Nikki Dial perform again. I saw a recent picture of Nikki and she still looks great. Don't know how the other three look, but I bet they also still look great. However, I never watch porn that has more than 1 guy in a scene, so I wouldn't buy in if they were planning to have more than 1 guy. Also, I wouldn't donate unless the money were handled by an independent 3rd party who promised to return the money if the shoot doesn't take place.
Some retired stars might jump at the opportunity (and the promise of a big payday). I'd also guess that a fair number of them have moved on from porn, and have husbands, families, jobs and a new set of friends, and wouldn't do it unless the money were really life-changing, if they'd even do it at all. As for your question about who would do it, the only people who might have a clue are people who know these retired porn stars.
 
The Elbow
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Posted - Mar 20 2014 : 9:34PM
in this strictly hypothetical situation, I bet that the studio that would shoot this scene would want a sizable cut of whatever money was raised
just sayin'
wmike1
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Posted - Mar 20 2014 : 10:01PM
I have been thinking something similar for years, where fans would put up money to see a star do a specific scene, for example we could bid on an Anna Morna gang bang or a Jessica Drake Interracial, anything we have never seen or might never see. Most of us couldn't afford it, but it could be done as a group
Jaktarn
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Posted - Mar 20 2014 : 10:05PM
Thats an interesting choice!
Blackie
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Posted - Mar 20 2014 : 10:31PM
OK, I'm in, but not for a gangbang.
What if 22% want a gangbang, 50% want lesbian, and 28% want a mom/son incest scene?
ninja1
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Posted - Mar 20 2014 : 10:55PM
^This is why it can't/won't happen. You need a lot of contributors in order to raise enough money. But the more contributors, the more impossible it is to have agreement about the makings of the scene. I'd need it to be a solo scene, or I keep my money. Well maybe I'd be OK with b/g, depending on who's the guy. For example.
wmike1
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Posted - Mar 20 2014 : 11:50PM
It would work with someone with a big fan base, you could have people submit ideas, star picks top 5, and then the fans vote on what they want to see, then you just figure out a price, you could do it on ofbeatr
hashphish
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Posted - Mar 20 2014 : 11:54PM
So how much is enough to get them to agree to do a scene?
Jaktarn
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Posted - Mar 21 2014 : 12:01AM
My pipedream crow funding projects would be the following:
1. Getting Nikki LaMotta to do b/g
2. Getting Keri Sable to do a comeback scene
3. Getting Nikki Jayne to do a gangbang comeback on-off
4. Jill Kelly!!!!
5. Shane from Shanes World doing a b/g scene
aclayfan All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 21 2014 : 12:39AM
Sorry! After you mentioned Bar Rafaeli's name, I lost focus.
wmike1
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Posted - Mar 21 2014 : 7:33PM
As for retired stars, they would have to still look good and be in shape for me. Current stars, It should probably be a contract girl who has a real wild side but was suppressed by the company, She would be someone with a big fan base and would have lots of first time things to do. The first name that popped into my head was Alectra Blue, even though I have never really been a fan of hers
 
pat362
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Posted - Mar 21 2014 : 9:05PM
I've seen this type of subject discussed more than once in one form or another and although I don't have anything against the concept. I have no idea how anyone could get this done. Even if you can get a reputable crowdfunding organisation to handle the donation aspect. You have so many other obstacles than finding someone to handle the money.
I think finding a list of performers willing to make a comeback and getting a majority of people interested in them would be a huge problem but we might come to a consensus where a majority could agree on the performer and the sex act. The problem isn't really there but it's really a question of money and trust. People are now so cheap that they find every excuse for using tube and torrent sites so trying to get those cheapskates to donate any amount of money is a lost cause. Even if you could find them then how many would really want to pay for something that may never get done. After all you donate in the hopes that the project gets done but there is no guarantee that it will and no way to get your money back once it's donated.
Let's say for argument sake that we have the performer, the sex act, a reputable crowdfunding organisation. I can't see anyone making a comeback and doing the type of things we would like them to do for less than 40,000$. I also don't expect people to be as generous as donating an amount above 10$ so we would need more than 4000 people willing to pay as much as 10$ for a single porn scene that might turn out to be a gigantic mess. I have paid more than that for some bad sites so I would be aboard but I fear I'm in the minority.
wmike1
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Posted - Mar 21 2014 : 9:33PM
That's why it would have to be someone with a huge fan base, someone like a Jenna Haze, in a double vag and double anal gangbang, I think you could get enough people to und that, and you would only pledge the money. It would only be collected after what ever goal was met. I don't think there are any other retired stars that could pull it off though. They tend to go bad really fast
wmike1
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Posted - Mar 22 2014 : 2:46AM
I don't think it would be that hard to put together, you could put a couple different things into 1 scene. 20 guys that would pay $100 be to see close up of feet, 20 that pay to see and oral creampie, 20 who pay to see dvp, 20 who want to see Double anal, you would have about an hour long scene and you just collected $10,000 to shoot it , plus the performer would be able to sell it through a personal website or through a commercial one
pat362
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Posted - Mar 22 2014 : 11:05AM
^Sorry but where have you been in the last 5 years? People have stopped paying for porn so trying to get them to donate 10$ is already going to be a huge obstacle. Let alone 10 times that amount. Where do you think you can find anyone willing to pay 100$ for one porn scene today? I'm not saying that there aren't people already paying that because some people are paying more than 100$ to see and interact with their favorite star(s) on cam sites but they pay those amounts because they get to talk with the performer but there wouldn't be any of that in a porn scene.
I'd also like to point out that any scene involving 20 guys is going to cost you significantly more than you seem to have calculated. Let's say you can find 20 guys willing to do the scene. You still have to pay them so unless they are willing to take a discount(not happening) then you are talking a minimum of 8000$ but it's more likely to be 10,000$ just for their services. That's on top of the 30,000 to 40,000 you'll have to give the woman. That means that we now have to generate at least 40,000$ to 50,000$ just to be able to book the performers.
I'd also like to point out that getting a retired performer to comeback for a huge paycheck is a possibility but why would you think that she would do stuff that she never did when she was active? Oral creampie is a possibility but you can forget Double vaginal and certainly double anal. The vast majority of todays performers don't even do these things anymore so a retired performer sure as hell isn't going to. I think you project is more fantasy than anything else.
wmike1
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Posted - Mar 22 2014 : 11:45AM
People won't pay for crap that's being produced now, of course they would pay for custom shoots, that is the future of porn. People are paying $100 of customsforu just to see one of their favorites do a strip tease, people are paing for scenes on clipsforsale, if you give the people what they want, they will pay for it, especially if that's the only way they will ever get to see it
TomChoad
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Posted - Mar 22 2014 : 12:15PM
"Pornstarter". Sounds interesting.
ladd3rfr3ak
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Posted - Mar 22 2014 : 1:21PM
I would raise money for the orphans instead. retired pornstars has played their part and now its time for the new one.
shalalin
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Posted - Mar 22 2014 : 6:35PM
It's hardly a "custom" video if you need hundreds or even thousands of folks to agree on what's going to be in it. And "people" may be paying lots of money on clips4sale, but they're doing so to buy thousands of different clips.
Some people here are seriously deluded about the level of interest in such extreme niche ideas as getting a specific (long forgotten in many cases) performer to film a specific scene - porn may be a multi-billion dollar business, but the overwhelming majority of the revenue comes from people who don't even care about current stars that much that they'll spend money specifically to see them, let alone past stars.
And that's without going into the logistics of actually getting to shoot these pie-in-the-sky dream scenes people are hoping to finance.
Edited by - shalalin on 3/22/2014 6:36:43 PM
wmike1
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Posted - Mar 22 2014 : 6:53PM
^ There are 10 stars that I follow, all of them have done customs or are planning too, they go from $100 to $5000 for full sex. All it would take is one person to find 100 fans of a star, collect the money and get the shoot that they want and since everyone I follow has 50, to 300 thousand followers, I doubt if it would be that hard
[mod edit: quote removed. please do not quote the post directly above your own. just use an "up arrow". thx.]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 3/23/2014 12:30:00 AM
paulyd
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Posted - Mar 27 2014 : 12:36PM
Okay so for $50000, you dont think the most crazy suzie diamond fan wouldn't shell out $50 to see her come back? I could imagine she has thousands of fans and if everyone just gives $20, that would be a good amount.
There are ppl that pay good money for porn sites etc so i cant imagine how thousands wouldn't pay 10 dollar and then you see the counter such as just this much for suzie diamond to do a porn scene.
 
NotMyRealName
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Posted - Mar 27 2014 : 12:48PM
Pornstarter!
This is an interesting idea and there probably is a way to do crowd funding for this but there are several problems I see arising if you are planning it independently.
- You have to pay for everything up front. That means regardless how the scene turns out you are already buying in (this will make some people uneasy)
- Every porn fan has a different idea about how the scene should go (based on a lot of idiosyncratic tendencies that form their tastes). This would make it difficult to get everyone to agree on what to shoot (at least to the degree that people feel like they were getting their money's worth.)
- There is always the possibility that the scene never materializes after money is spent on all the necessary items (lots can go wrong!)
Having said that, the best way I think this could work is to use a company that is already producing content. If you have a subscription you should be able to pay in an extra couple bucks towards a bank that buys the kinds of scenes that you want to see (of course there is still compromise and agreement towards the final version of what they are to produce.) This way you avoid the possibility of watching your money go down the drain (or at least you mitigate the chances to the degree that people are willing to buy in with enough confidence to raise the funding level to the appropriate amount.)
wmike1
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Posted - Mar 27 2014 : 5:46PM
http://offbeatr.com/ already does crowd funding for xxx, I am supporting a project now.
All you really need to 1 guy to trust. Somewho who goes to a star with a scene, then contact her fans and raise the money. The only real problem with that is the trust issue, and yes I know that is the big issue
pat362
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Posted - Mar 27 2014 : 8:27PM
It wouldn't surprise me to hear that she has a thousand fans. Heck it' wouldn't surprise me to hear that she has ten thousand fans but the problem is that I don't think those fans will pay any amount to see their girl come back when they can see some of her old stuff for free on tube sites. If there were so many fans willing to pay for porn then the entire industry wouldn't be where it is and that's the reality today.
wmike1
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Posted - Mar 27 2014 : 8:59PM
I think the point of this thread was to see one of your favorites do something she has never done before, preferably one of your favorite sex acts. That is what fans will pay for
I P Freely
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Posted - Mar 27 2014 : 10:52PM
^
Actually I think the point was to get a retired porn star to come back for one more scene, regardless of what she does.
Where do I send my money to bring back Kristarra Barrington?
Mathle21
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Posted - Apr 8 2014 : 9:41PM
Someone should start akickstarter-like campaign to bring back Kelly Wells for a feature movie. 4-5 different scenes to keep everyone satisfied (solo, blowbang, b/g, gangbanb, lesbo or b/g/g. I would easily tbrow down some $$$ to get Kelly Wells back
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paulyd
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Posted - Jun 11 2014 : 1:25PM
anyone know if it possible to get suzie to come back to porn?



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