I have been getting caught up on the IR conversation using the search engine (handy and fast BTW). It seems there is some controversy over whether or not doing Ramon counts as IR. There is one fool-proof way to determine African decent: the hair. Ramon has nappy hair and there is no other way to get it except African DNA. Now, I don't mean curly hair or frizzy hair. Jewish people and Irish people often have frizzy or curly hair. I'm talking break-a-finetooth nappy hair. And Ramon has it. So yes, all the Ramon scenes count as IR. If she did Ramon, you gotta let her off the hook. Lastly, I realize that some of these women are in denial about the blackness of Ramon. That's on them for being duped into fucking him. They can't change what he is and what they did. (posted in good humor)
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LLvladk Deactivated User
121 Posts 10/09
Posted - Jan 20 2010 : 5:40PM
I will refer you to Hannah West and Missy Stone on this one.
Ramon is Afro-Latino. That's been established. It's not a mystery. If performers don't want to do IR for whatever reason (and I think the reasoning is usually bizarre, weak, or outright illogical) yet they have sex with Ramon, well, they don't understand that Latinos can also be black, LOL. If you've done Ramon, you've done IR, even if you say you haven't. It's obvious! What makes Ramon acceptable, though? Because he is Cuban? Or lighter skinned? He has a huge cock, so no one can say, "I don't do IR because the dicks are too big." I'd really like to know what makes it more acceptable to these performers to have sex with Ramon over, say, Mr. Marcus or Sean Michaels (who I'd personally do in a heartbeat over Ramon)? I can't see any other reason but straight-up racism, but I'm sure I'll be harangued for bringing up the dreaded R word. Edited by - scissorme on 1/20/2010 6:13:48 PM
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lack100 Deactivated User
139 Posts 8/09
Posted - Jan 20 2010 : 6:25PM
it shows how racist these girl are.. i mean this dude can have the same skin, same everything, if he is born light skinned afro american..girls wouldn't do the scenes. but he is light skinned latino so its ok. this is what Kelsey Michaels said: "Okay now for the record, This is the kelsey michaels the one and only and ramon was latin i made sure of that before I even worked with him"
^Heh, I remember reading that a few months ago and shaking my head. Obviously there's a fundamental misunderstanding about Ramon's race, ethnicity, and nationality. Latin definitely doesn't automatically mean "not black." Edited by - scissorme on 1/20/2010 6:37:23 PM
And this was the point of the thread. The whole issue is silly, the people who are arguing it are silly, and at the end of the day it doesn't really matter. If someone is so adamant that IR is bad, why would you even take the risk? Answer: money. Look, if doing IR was the only way to get a big money Vivid or Wicked contract, EVERYBODY would be doing as much IR as possible just to get their attention. But there is no end to the comedy of girls trying to make a guy "not black" because they already got tricked into fucking him.
^Apparently IR threads have been done to death and have even driven away some stars, so a lot of people try to thwart them. BUT I still think the Ramon topic warrants discussion, mainly because the denial of his blackness makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Also it's kind of hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that "my parents will tolerate my porn career as long as I don't fuck black dudes." I mean, is that deeply ingrained prejudice or what?
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LLvladk Deactivated User
121 Posts 10/09
Posted - Jan 21 2010 : 12:36AM
Interesting question: what makes him more acceptable? I know Missy Stone denies his blackness and gets offended when you bring it up.
I don't have a horse in the IR race. However, I find it surprising that Ramon hasn't been picked up for regular work either for DVD or site-based stuff, given his prior success on both fronts. Bangbros has taken a major nosedive since they nixed him. Hell, Bigcockteenaddiction.com should put Billy Glyde out to pasture, at least for that one site, and rehire Ramon imo.
My question will be: how did an Afro Latino like Ramon managed to fool so many big*ts to work with him? I have seen many half black/white brothas who looked whiter than him. I wish Jake Steed was still around to get an answer to that question.
Thank reason for Ramon or we would of never gotten anything big and black up Kristina Rose's sweet pussy. Whatever his secret or some girls reasoning I hope they both keep it up. Wayne In Dallas
I think he's been umm, blackballed if you'll pardon the terrible IR pun. After he was dumped by Bangbros he hasn't done much of anything that I can tell.
I think he should create his own site. I know has some black ancestry but I think he's got the biggest one among all light skinned (white,latino or asian) performers. With that distinction alone he should be one of the highest paid male actors, if not the highest. Maybe the fact that he isn't American isn't helping.
He's done a handful of scenes for the site, Cubankings, so he's stil living in the Miami area I guess. I think our best hope of seeing him perform again is to petition Emily Rigby to use him in some of her upcoming productions. Given her directorial talents and propensity for finding hot, young talent, could be an explosive combo.
Posted - Jan 20 2010 : 3:34PM