Get this: they're having a discussion on BBC Radio 5 Live and the topic is that men who watch porn are potential rapists. What a stupid thing to say. How on earth can watching a conventional porn movie be possibly linked to rape unless that person is unhinged from the start. Rape is a crime, a separate issue, totally detached from watching porn movies. I find that an insult to all the nice men and chicks who visit sites such as this and who watch porn. 99% of men and women who enjoy porn get fun out of it. Full stop. Period. Rump.
Couldn't agree more...as far as I'm concerned, porn would reduce the number of rapes as it provides an outlet for the release of one's sexual fantasies...
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Posted - Jan 15 2003 : 7:55AM
It took years before laws allowing the sale of hard core were relaxed in the UK. For much of the 1990s, British people lived in the Dark Ages of Censorship. It was a pathetic situation.
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Posted - Jan 16 2003 : 6:58PM
Yeah, I think a lot of the basis behind the theory that rape and porno are related is the statistics between child molestation and child porno. I don't know the numbers, but supposedly a very high percentage of molesters have child porno. I guess this connection is stupid for two reasons: first porno is video of sex, not rape, and second anyone who watches child porno is deranged, and you can't compare to regular people.
Well, there's got to be something wrong with us. If we're not potential rapists then we might be ...gasp... normal!
"I knew a girl who liked the prong but alway brought her dog along..."
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Posted - Jan 16 2003 : 7:24PM
I donpt think that porn is influential enough to either reduce or increase the number of rapes.
Of course, there´s various degrees of rapes, from date rape and drunk rape to the violent, premeditated rape.
A rapist is DERANGED by definition. There´s the possibility that he can get some ideas from porn movies, but he would rape anyway, porn market or not, cause that´s what fucking maniacs do.
It's an ignorant suggestion. And apart from everything else, the biggest hidden fallacy is that men who watch porn are some weirdo minority.
It only confirmed my suspicion, but if you ever read the "True Porn Clerk Confessions" weblog, one of the interesting tidbits was that every male customer at the video store (a mainstream video store with an adult section) eventually rented some porn. Those of us here may be on the high end of the porn-viewing scale, but it's not as if the norm is NOT watching porn at all.
Her point was, any woman who wants to imagine that her boyfriend, husband or co-worker has no interest in porn is fooling herself. And if you believe rapists are just "those porn-watching guys", you're an even bigger idiot.
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Posted - Jan 17 2003 : 4:53AM
"I Spit on Your Grave" is the only one that comes to mind and it´s not even porn, but a slasher/exploitation movie.
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Posted - Jan 17 2003 : 4:56AM
The truth of the matter surely is that if someone is gonna commit rape, he is as likely to be triggered to do so by looking at pretty girls in lifestyle mags, as he is by watching porn vids. It's the person, not what comes into contact with his eyes.
Edited by - Rumplestilt Skin on 1/17/2003 4:57:30 AM
rape has been ocurring long before the introduction of film! what was their reason why rape occured 2000 years ago? what was it back then that made men potential rapists? dirty heiroglyphics??!!! this is a very tired argument which ive heard many times!!
Exactally, so good to hear so many people getting it (pun not intended) When ever people say this type of stuff , is it the movies , music etc all I can say is: " What was hitler listening to or watching " Or the people who exterminated the indians, or rwoada , etc
================================ Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. -CS LEWIS
Like others here, I definitely disagree with that statement.
However, I am willing to argue that men who ARE potential rapists may be influenced to act out on their impulses if they watch enough movies with rape themes in them. Seeing it happen onscreen enough could act as a kind of "enabling" device. In that sense, theoretically, there may be a bit of a point to it. But, again, the percentage of people to whom this would apply is so low as to be negligable. And it's not something that's a good reason for branding pornography as "evil" or "criminal". (Just as a guy with homicidal tendencies who's pushed over the line by exposure to working in a slaughter house, morgue, viewing thrillers / murder mysteries, etc., shouldn't be an argument for doing away with those things.)
Edited by - Mythsong on 1/17/2003 11:27:12 AM
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Posted - Jan 17 2003 : 11:47AM
Years ago, a venezuelan guy was arrested in São Paulo for rape, and he basically stated that he was "copying Rocco´s modus operandi".
But that was an isolated case. Meanwhile, there may be like a gajillion of rapists around the world who prolly don´t even know who the fuck is Rocco.
I remember a great cartoon in an old Playbog mag. In the first scene it has a picture of a guy looking at a porn mag and saying to himself "I'm gonna go rape some bitch". This was under the heading of something like "What They Want You to Think". Then in the second frame, under he heading "Reality" the same guy has the mag in his left hand, his dick in his right hand, and he has shot his load and passed out.
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Posted - Jan 17 2003 : 5:33PM
Yeah. But, save for one Geraldo -like TV show host who just LOVE sensationalism, no one gave the rapist credit. He´s doing time in Oz now.
You can all thank sicko and mass murderer Ted Bundy for some of the stupid and ignorant beliefs that porn leads to rape. In his last interview before his execution he blamed his obsession with porn for his crimes. Yeah right! I've read some books on the relationship between porn and rape/violence and guess what science says ? There isn't any.
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Posted - Jan 17 2003 : 8:51PM
"Hey! Son of Sam said that a dog told him to kill! LET´S BAN DOGS!"
This line of reasoning, to quote Frank Zappa, is like "getting rid of dandruff by cutting off your head".
i think most rapists who use porn as an excuse for their crime, are just trying to divert blame from themselves. so people will think "hes not such a bad chap..porn made him do it"! they dont really want to own up to their crime(what would their family think!)no. its better to blame it on something...yeah that rocco tape. etc etc. its like as kids we would never own up to stuff, it was always...they made me do it......we just dont handle guilt that well i guess.