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Pete Zaface
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Posted - May 27 2018 : 12:10PM
Maybe 12 or 15 years ago, one of the studios, Diabolic perhaps, had a scene in one of its videos where they ordered pizza in the middle of the day and, when the delivery guy showed up to a porn set with a naked girl running around, it didn't take much convincing to get him to shoot a scene with said naked girl. (I forget who she was. maybe Mysti May or Tianna Lynn?)
I'm pretty sure the guy was either an actual delivery guy or at least an amateur. The scene had that sense of verisimilitude to it, unlike, say, BigSausagePizza or Bangbus. It's the only scene of its kind that I know of -- where I can actually believe a "civilian" decided to do a porn shoot pretty much on the spot. The next closest thing I can think of was also a mid-scene conversion in a DancingBear episode, where a guy signed up a girl to wear the "I'm game" wristband in the midst of the scene. Another was a long time ago, when Mike South was in a booth at a diner, a girl in the next booth overheard his conversation, and, 30 miutes later, she was doing a porn shoot for him. GirlsDoPorn comes close, but it doesn't quite fit the bill, because the girl has already been approached and signed the papers.
I think it would be cool to have more scenes like that. (Amateur Allure going back to one-timers, or at least girls who've done fewer than 10 scenes, would be nice, too.) It doesn't have to be real; it just has to look real. But real would probably be better, because I don't think most producers could make it look real.
While I'm dreaming and hoping that the current infatuation with cuckolding and incest will die out in favor of something like this, can anyone recommend any similar scenes?
fringster
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Posted - May 27 2018 : 1:55PM
Did the delivery guy have an up to date test STDs with him when bringing the pizza
pat362
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Posted - May 27 2018 : 2:43PM
^What he said. You cannot shoot porn without a valid test and that was still the case 20 years ago. For that reason you will never have a so called civilian do porn and more importantly. You never want to see that because fucking is easy but doing porn isn't. You can be one of the best lovers in the world and still be a limped dick guy once you are expected to do it in front of a bunch of people who expect you to get hard and stay hard for over an hour.
Why do you think producers don't allow the boyfriends of performers to work with them in a porn? They know what a mess the boyfriend would be once he was naked and expected to fuck his girlfriend on command.
Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 27 2018 : 4:04PM
The On the Prowl series by Jamie Gills did this.
Pete Zaface
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Posted - May 27 2018 : 9:57PM
Yeah, and I forgot about Midnight Prowl.
Okay, so the geeky-looking pizza guy would have had to have been tested. The point is, he wasn't some porn stud that I'd seen a hundred times before, so I could believe that it was real. As I said in the OP, it's not so much about nevessarily being real as being plausible to the viewer. DancingBear was that way, MidnightProwl was that way, the pizza guy scene was that way.
Or maybe -- I don't recall the scene's particulars -- she just gave him a blowjob. Were standards different then/are they now for a just-a-blowjob scene?
Although I don't know who it is that says you cannot make porn without a test, or what the penalty might be for doing so, what you said does make sense, and it may help explain why there's never been a DancingBearette, which , IMO, would be a lot of fun.
 
gruntler
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Posted - May 28 2018 : 2:42AM
Don't know if this counts, if it was pre-arranged but if you take a look at Amateur Dreams @ Manyvids a girl named Jess has her first video doing implied nude modeling it runs for about 40 minutes chopped into 2 scenes, in part 2 she's being filmed POV in doggy position while a tripod is also pointed at the bed after she's been brushing up against the video guy he pulls her shorts down and starts ramming her. It concludes (badly angled) with him cumming over her chest/face.
Her second vid is full nude which ends in a similar style.
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gachiznit
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Posted - Apr 8 2019 : 8:15AM
Which DancingBear did the guy convince the girl to wear the wristband and at what time?
jm6d
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Posted - Apr 10 2019 : 3:08PM
Thus despite the talk about test these scenes where with men directly from the street, while Midnight prowl was with tested men????
Excuse me, but I get a bit confused,
jm6d
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Posted - Apr 15 2019 : 6:17PM
So, should I believe it or not when it's written about the movie: "Marsha May Bangs a Random Perv" that he has no idea that he's going to take part in a porn?
hoochimama
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Posted - Apr 16 2019 : 11:58AM
I love seeing chicks go the "extra mile"/doing something I didn't expect, that includes a civilian chick joining in on the porn action (it's the same as a G/G pornstar doing her first B/G after a long tease etc) but it's also understandably rare to come by.

If you want specific scenes there's a bunch of them listed on the freeones threads dedicated to the subject such as "Scenes where a girl unexpectedly joins in the sex", "True AMATEUR girls who have sex in PARTYHARDCORE !?" and some of the dancingbear threads (it happened more than a couple of times).

Best sites for occasionally finding "civilians" going naughty that i know of:
https://www.realgirlsgonebad.com
https://www.partyhardcore.com/
https://www.swingingpornstars.com/
https://czechmegaswingers.com
https://czechhomeorgy.com/
https://czechparties.com/
http://dancingbear.com/
https://www.moneytalks.com/
http://www.inthevip.com/
https://www.realitykings.com/tour/site/view/51/vip-crew/
https://www.theupperfloor.com/
https://www.publicdisgrace.com/
https://vimeo.com/primecutpro/ (soft)

Now perhaps not the best example but it's the only specific one I can link to without going against the no streaming/piracy sites rules:
Youtuber/blogger Gemma Schwein is certainly a civilian, you won't even finds nudes of her.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5QZe_x8cjy7wwXptJAO6DQ
https://www.instagram.com/jugandoconeros/
https://jugandoconeros.wordpress.com/

She sometimes appeared on cumlouder scenes as an extra in the background or conducting interviews, but never doing anything naughty:
https://www.cumlouder.com/porn-video/claudia-y-nekane-hot-in-granada/
https://www.cumlouder.com/porn-video/let-s-talk-about-porn-for-women/
https://www.cumlouder.com/porn-video/claudia-and-nekane-ladies-only/

...until she found the dude was kinda hot:
https://www.cumlouder.com/porn-video/amaranta-and-gemma-soulmates/

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Edited by - hoochimama on 4/16/2019 8:55:19 PM

grimes
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Posted - Apr 16 2019 : 12:12PM
not on the spot, but CanHeScore was good if you like civilians fucking pornstars. That's one of the series I really wish would come back, but I doubt theres budget for it in porn these days.
hoochimama
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Posted - Apr 16 2019 : 2:17PM
^I wouldn't call those "civilians", those were porn hopefuls who knew exactly what they went there for. Otherwise might as well also count all the guys on the fuckteamfive, daredorm etc sites. Some of the random censored face dudes on some of the https://candidlooks.com network sites are more likely to be civilians going further than they expected to, same as some of the less adventurous chicks.

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Edited by - hoochimama on 4/16/2019 3:32:56 PM

Pete Zaface
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Posted - Apr 4 2020 : 7:40PM
See here:

https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/a-during-filming-conversion-at-dancingbear

I don't know the episode.

studrams
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Posted - Apr 6 2020 : 12:07PM
Not necessarily spur of the moment but there's plenty of amateur guys lining up up at Glory Hole Swallow.
rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 6 2020 : 4:42PM
^ I've often wondered about Glory Hole Swallow. The guys must be amateurs but I assume that there is some pre-arranging things. There would be some needed tests and I'm sure the model on her knees would like to know that any dick coming at her has been in a shower in the past while.
 
pat362
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Posted - Apr 6 2020 : 8:24PM
^You are correct that no matter to whom the dick belong to be he a pro or an amateur. His owner needs to have a valid 14 day test and the producer has to have the proper 2257 paper to go along with the test so no actual walking off the street would be possible. I also want to point out I suspect most pros in the industry would be pissed to hear that producers are hiring amateurs when they are available to do those type of scenes.
studrams
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Posted - Apr 6 2020 : 11:30PM
l know testing is required but l'm not aware of what other regulations are in place when it comes to porn, what would happen if content was being made without the necessary paperwork?
snufish
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Posted - Apr 7 2020 : 1:21PM
The genre is called reality porn.
@studrams, you get charged by the feds, like this guy
StraightBoyz Owner Arrested on 2257 Violations

Edited by - snufish on 4/7/2020 3:39:52 PM

studrams
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Posted - Apr 7 2020 : 2:37PM
That's hardly the same as Glory Hole Swallow, it's pretty obvious everyone knows exactly what's happening.
evilpineapples
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Posted - Apr 7 2020 : 3:10PM
Porn is fake. Almost everything you see is an illusion. It's a product designed to entertain, so that informs every aspect of its creation.

There is no "real civilian" porn that follows the legal requirements imposed upon producers. That is your answer.

Verisimilitude can be created deliberately by the director, and often is, so just because something "feels" real does not mean that it IS real.

Edited by - evilpineapples on 4/7/2020 3:11:55 PM

snufish
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Posted - Apr 7 2020 : 3:38PM
GHS would be filed under the Amateur/gonzo section in a porn store. On internet site, it would be under about 7 genre depending on the physical attributes of the performers and scene setting etc..

the type of porn OP is referring is called reality porn

Mike Hawk CEO Dixon Cider
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Posted - Apr 7 2020 : 5:31PM
I seriously doubt that random guy or girl just does porn on the spot. Think about it.

Are random guys going to be able to just get wood on demand with a porn crew hanging out?

I'm also pretty sure that they'd have to sign a release in advance of said scene or else what's going to stop a guy or guys from saying "I've changed my mind" after getting laid or a BJ.

Plus how often do non pro performers just start doing people on camera with people they just met?

Lastly, I'm sure the percentage of people who would only look and maybe give a boob squeeze but nothing more is about 99.999%

Pete Zaface
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Posted - Apr 8 2020 : 2:23PM
The world has changed since the scene I mentioned ni my first post, and, sadly, DancingBear is no more.

But to extend the discussion further, let's accept that the pizza guy wasn't a civvie, and the DancingBear conversion wasn't real.

The point is that I could believe both were real, the pizza guy because I'd never seen him before and haven't seen him since, and the DancingBear scene because it sure looked real.

The Mike South scene didn't quite fit the bill, but I could believe that the girl that git fucked had indeed been in a restaurant 30 minutes before.

The larger point is verisimilitude -- can I believe it? With all due respect to the person who said that it's created often, I disagree wholeheartedly, and not just about this genre.

I used to believe Amateur Allure girls were indeed amateurs, 10 years or more ago when that was the only site you saw them on, or when they only appeared on one or two other sites before moving on to whatever life awaited them outside of porn. It's hard to believe that now, because the scenes of so many girls there are released after we've been watching them for a few months. In extreme cases, we'll see a girl who's been doing porn for a year or two; sometimes she's a returnee, but sometimes she's new to the site. The only thing that makes AA unique these days is that the presentation of the girls, IMO.

GDP filled the niche that AA vacated by bringing in a lot of girls who only did that one scene. If someone could figure out a way to make that business model work without the coercion and subterfuge,, he or she will do well.

Beyond that, I can't think of very much that looks real. Part of that is because we're seeing professionals that we've seen before and will see again, and part of it is because the nature of the product and the regulatory environment almost dictate that something spontaneous or involving "real people" can't be captured on video. Almost every attempt to make something look real falls short:

InTheVIP is shot in such close quarters and in such bad lighting that it's not worth much. Additionally, orgies in a club VIP just don't happen. Now, if you wanted to do scenes involving the VIP room in a strip club, and the things that go on there between dancers and their clients, you'd be closer to real. (If Emily Austin could direct, she could use the VIP at Bucks. :))

Most of the gloryhole stuff is ruined because the girls look up into the guys' eyes while they are sucking, or because it strains credulity that a girl would go into a peepshow booth and start sucking random dicks. Gloryholesecrets is pretty good because there's no eye contact, and because the interviews help establish the reality of the situation.

DancingBear worked because of the number of scenes, the number of girls, and the nonparticipating audience providing a sense of reality. (How about a reverse DancingBear, where we have girls dancing in a club who go out in the audience and find guys wearing the "Availabhle for blowjob" wristband?)

MidnightProwl worked for the same reason the pizza guy scene worked -- the use of "non-professional" male talent.

Bangbus might have started out well, but it's old and worn out by now. What must that van smell like by now? And how come none of the girls ever ask about all the grafitti?

Massagegirls18 did, and Tonight's Girlfriend does, do a pretty good job of credibly presenting the scenario, because that's the way those sort of encounters go (sometimes). But the power of the scenes is lost because of the use of pros.

Anyway, maybe the hiatus will spark some creativity. I'll bet the situation we're in is going to prompt a lot of new faces once this thing is over.

pat362
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Posted - Apr 8 2020 : 5:47PM
^I think Backroom casting Couch, Exploited College Girls and I would like to also add Net Video Girls fills the bill when it comes to producers who shoot amateurs. It's just that their setup is one that is primarily one-on-one as opposed to a group thing but the reality is that no one can shoot those type of scene today. The logistic would be hell but the cost would be even more so.
Mike Hawk CEO Dixon Cider
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Posted - Apr 8 2020 : 7:21PM
^^ When you say "let's accept" do you mean let's pretend the whole concept of random people just doing porn on the drop of a hat actually exists?
 
Dark Vader
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Posted - Apr 9 2020 : 7:40AM
I am also keen on scenes that at least "appear" to be realistic/unrehearsed and with genuine chemistry between the performers.

Some of my current favs are

1. Akira Lane & Jessica Bangkok threesome in the Audition.

2. Sandra La Rosa (aka Sandy Summers) first b/g scene.

3. Pauline Presely's only b/g scene in Big Ripe Melons (I think)

4. Hanna Hilton Pornstars at home - scenes where she walks in on apornstars in action and decides to join in.

5. Linzi Drew interview of Rocco and gives him a surprise blowjob.

6. Cruelty Party - various scenes where "reluctant" birthday girl is "forced " by her girl friends to fuck a male stripper with their help and ends up enjoying herself!

7. G Picasso scenes from hersweethand, justabj, perfectD etc. are also very genuine where "sometimes" he persuades models to do more than they originally agreed!

All of the above are (in my humble opinion) very realistic and VERY HOT!


Edited by - Dark vader on 4/9/2020 7:45:43 AM

Edited by - Dark vader on 4/9/2020 8:00:13 AM

Pete Zaface
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Posted - Apr 12 2020 : 10:34AM
Found it: Trixie Kelly in "Spring Chickens 5":

https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/spring-chickens-5

https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/pizza-delivery-for-porn-stars

Edited by - Pete Zaface on 4/12/2020 10:41:45 AM

ssimfa
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Posted - Oct 22 2025 : 9:22PM
MOD:
Scene listings must include either:
a) Performer name + DVD name/Company (and say that it is a DVD)
or
b) Performer name + Site name + name of the scene on the site (or date the scene was uploaded to the site if there isn't scene name). (UPDATED MARCH 2025)
or
c) Link to the scene on the site (and make it easy for your fellow members to find the scene you are discussing).

Don't list the new scene as "new scene with X." For instance, if someone checks AdultTime daily and someone else checks AdultTime weekly, what is new is a different and for the latter, the scene may already be on page 2 of their listings. And the post is completely useless to people months in the future. If a thread is company specific, like a thread on Girlsway, you don't need to list the site, but you still need to list the scene name, or if none is provided, the date the scene was released.

This will help your fellow members find the scene you are discussing. When this information isn't provided, almost immediately, someone has to ask where.

These rules have been in effect for over 6 years now. Pretending not to understand them doesn't work anymore.

Edited by - Flash on 10/23/2025 2:13:58 PM

Putz324
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Posted - Oct 23 2025 : 1:31PM
Back in the golden era I've heard examples of this happening quite frequently, especially in the underground NY porn scene. It was so long ago that I can't remember specifics but there are some other forums frequented by experts in that era of porn.

yosemitejack664
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Posted - Dec 18 2025 : 1:11AM
A lot of the OG Fuck Team Five episodes used real guys.
EthanEdwards
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Posted - Dec 19 2025 : 3:25PM
I remember a scene by Sky Lopez in "Sky's Day Off" where she, I think, jerks off two civilians in a car. Can someone verify that?

Edited by - EthanEdwards on 12/19/2025 3:26:51 PM

rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 19 2025 : 4:21PM
^ I might be able to verify later (when my bride isn't home) but I think you are right.



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