I recently viewed an online flick of Ava Devine getting DP'd in the back of a van. Ava was up to her usual nastiness. She sucked off one stud though in a way I wish was performed more often. While caressing and massaging his already soaking wet balls, she sucked him and sucked until he exploded into her mouth. As he came, she let the cum dribble out around her lips and down the shaft as she sucked more and he came more. Needless to say, he was groaning in pleasure. It was really hot. Why aren't there more suck-offs like this being filmed? I mean this was far sexier and far more erotic than watching the same old cum-on-the-face shot.
1)We don't have scene like this because we buy whatever they make, and because that all they offer, it's what we buy. Porn is market resistant
2)Porn makers are jaded and haven't the slightest notion about what is sexy
3)The scene was raw, natural and primitive, not suited for their genteel, urbane audience who'd prefer she have at least sucked the spilled cum off the floor with a straw, blow it into another girls ass let it drip out into a glass than walk a block or two in a crowded area as it dries, making conversation with as many seniors and policemen as she can find.
I think you'd be more likely to find this if you watch older movies - Golden Age, as they say. For some reason it was much more common then to have cumshots without the guy jerking off, and also to do them other ways than facials. You could ask in the Features forum.
In modern movies the best cumshot I've seen which was similar to what you describe was in Euro Angels Hardball 13: The Hole Story. I think it's the fifth scene, a sort of bondage/dungeon/anal/group setup. Anyway, the second cumshot has a girl on her knees while sucking a guy off, and he cums while she's rubbing her lips and tongue along the end of his dick. Some goes in her mouth, some on her cheeks and lips, and he keeps spurting as she rubs her open mouth and tongue mouth back and forth along his cock.
Do a search of the forum for the term "Oral Creampie" and you'll find several other vids that exhibit this particular type of cumshot. I'm a fan of it myself and have found several good recommendations herein.
I haven't read any posts on this message board where somebody says they prefer watching guys jerk off to competion vs an actual live "Oral Creampie". Some will defend the jerk-off completion because of the needs of the director or the problems of being a porn star. I say BS to that! This jerk off completion is bad direction that the industry took and they are all doing the same formula now days. I hate it.
Me either Hank. I've heard the "urban myth" that the viewer demands to see the cumshot otherwise they won't buy that it was "real." So the whole "pull out of that great feeling pussy/ass/mouth and jerk off with your own damn hand" moneyshot was born. It's been a staple of porn for the past 25 years or so now, as long as I've been watching it at least. And I really don't get why. Gimme a closed mouth popshot where the gal opens up and lets it drool out, or shows us before she swallows the load anyday. Creampies are just as good IMHO. I'm done with watching male actors jack off and will almost always FF past the popshot if I see that crap.
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Posted - Jan 22 2007 : 1:51PM
I know Miko Lee was very good at this practice! She was one of my favorite preformers and she did this in alot of her movies that i saw!
I think in most pops the two biggest concerns are aim and volume, and both are probably maximized when the guy finishes himself off. But I agree that it's so much hotter when the girl makes him cum, especially in blowjob movies. In Head Case the guy never even touches himself, the girls use their hands and mouths to get every last drop. The loads are mostly pretty small, but the girls make up for it. I'm concerned with quality, not quantity.
If the guy is going to jerk himself to completion, I'd rather that it happens spontaneously after pulling out of her mouth, pussy or ass. I hate when there's a cut right before the pop, so you don't know if the guy's been jerking himself for 10 second or 10 minutes. This is the one problem I have with the 50 to 1 series - every cumshot is exactly the same. The girl opens her mouth wide and sticks her tongue out, there's a cut to the girl licking balls and asking for cum, then he jerks off onto her tongue. Sometimes this is really hot, especially because all the girls swallow, but it does get a little redundant after 50 girls.
I remember seeing an out-take or BTS at the end of a videotape (this was years ago) showing one of the studs who just couldn't cum for ages. He didn't have a wood problem - they'd shot the whole scene successfully until that point - but he was just sitting there jerking off for ages. They cut several times, with 'two minutes later' and 'three minutes later' printed at the bottom of the screen. The girl he'd been with tried helping out - a bit of oral, some handjob, some general fondling and massaging his thighs and chest. Didn't work. He tried lying on the bed, sitting in a chair, standing up, standing so he was looking down at the girl, on the bed with her over him, whatever. He wanked normally, squeezed his balls, rolled his dick between his hands, rubbed the tip, everything you can think of. He just kept wanking and saying "Almost there" with the occasional "Sorry about this".
Eventually, he yelled something like "Here it is" and jumped across the room to where the girl was sitting in a chair waiting (nude, and probably half-asleep by this time) and delivered a perfect facial. The text at the bottom of the screen said something like "Fifteen minutes - and you thought porn wasn't work!" In the scene as edited for the tape it had looked like a conventional pop-shot. What professionals!
So yeah, when there's a cut away I know that cut might cover ten seconds or ten minutes.
I guess one of the skills of a porn stud is to hold back - to keep it hard and use it as long as required without shooting. I've read that the average sexual encounter only takes about five minutes from erection to ejaculation, so to shoot a scene where you might be required to keep hard and keep getting stimulated for an hour or two is kind of an achievement of restraint. No surprise if someone who does that regularly eventually finds it difficult to cum in the usual way.
Tempting Schoolgirls - review by Captain Jack
Posted - Jan 21 2007 : 1:44PM