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aybesea
Senior Member


Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Mar 7 2003 : 2:03PM
All I can say is wow! These guys have their shit together. All of the recent Private releases (last 2 months) have been absolutley amazing. Adamo, Kovi and Del Mar are doing a wonderful job and really seem to be coming into their own.

If you haven't watched any Private stuff lately, do yourself a favor and check them out!

Particularly of note: Love Story, Big Member and Fetish Academy. All wonderful releases. Also, the 6 disc Penthouse re-issue, they did it up right.

MLyons
Senior Member

1617 Posts
8/02
Posted - Mar 7 2003 : 2:07PM
Thanks for the heads up Ayb. I myself have just beeing getting heavy into Tanya Hyde. I tend to be slow on the new releases until I get a feel about them from other people. There are exceptions to that of course, but in general I'm pretty picky and like to do research. :)

Never seen a Kovi or Del Mar movie, though.

Mike L.

DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Mar 7 2003 : 2:23PM
Mike,

Adamo and Kovi have a certain 'style'. Some like it, some don't. Might suggest you rent a Kovi, and if you like, then go for it!

DenverDon

Sbando Boy
Euro Babe Magnet

1839 Posts
6/01
Posted - Mar 7 2003 : 2:58PM
Couldn't I agree MORE?

Possible explanations of this behaviour...:

1) Subliminal messages (not unlikely)
2) Mesmerisation
3) Something they put in the water
4) Abc is secretely Kovi (mmmmmmmm...)
5) The videshop keeps mismatching cases & discs and you're actually watching different movies (good ones)
6) Vulcan mind-meld
7) Osama ownz Private
8) That was humor, nevermind
9) You signed an incredibly hot Aussie starlet but then forgot to put her in a half-decent movie, so you're just denying it ever happened
10) You shot a Braveheart parody, but then pretended it never existed. More denial
11) You release sixteen new series every month so quality control is out of the question and Max Bellocchio comes very handy
12) You used to have girls that looked like angels in a painted Russian Icon and your Boss used to be a tanned playboy, while now you're just one of the many and your new boss is a fucking yuppy

Ok, I disagree...

aybesea
Senior Member

Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Mar 7 2003 : 3:04PM
Hmm... if I were Kovi I wouldn't be posting messages about Private releases, I'd be having Michelle Wild spread her legs for me! AHHHHH.
 
Diesel
Member

516 Posts
3/00
Posted - Mar 7 2003 : 8:02PM
I also remain a loyal and obedient PRIVATE fan. They are one of the finest and most consistent studios around!

Diesel

(By the way, Sbando...great avatar! Kristin Kreuk is a major babe...)

Edited by - Diesel on 3/7/2003 8:03:39 PM

Goldmember
Member

518 Posts
7/02
Posted - Mar 7 2003 : 8:47PM
Obviously I agree with abc, I might also add however that their future releases look to keep thier hot streak alive.
Sbando Boy
Euro Babe Magnet

1839 Posts
6/01
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 1:36PM
Me too, Diesel. I buy/rent everything, all the mags, and I'm a private.com subscriber.
Although I'm not joking when I say that I find their current output less than satisfying.
Productions by the team of Del Mar/Romagnoli are especially
cheap and not up to Private standards.
I'd eat red kryptonite from Kovi's butt-crack for her.

Edit: sp.

Edited by - Sbando Boy on 3/8/2003 1:38:52 PM

Speelie
Senior Member

Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
5/01
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 1:52PM
For the record, Private lost me 6 months or more ago. They no longer produce what I am looking for, but I fully accept that my tastes in porn can be a bit odd, and that Private are pleasing a lot of customers. Now, if Michelle Wild was pleasing me, all would be well with the world, though with all due respect to Aybesea, I think I'd pass on sloppy seconds if he got to her first....
balabala
Member

968 Posts
8/02
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 2:18PM
I have been a fan of Private for many years and I'm still very loyal to them. They are a top notch company and I'm sure I will keep enjoying Private dvd's for many years to come.
Jimmy C
New Member

5 Posts
2/03
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 5:07PM
Private, for me, are too up and down these days. They let the occasional good release out, but most of their stuff is far too formulaic. You can almost write a review of each scene having only read the grouping: Two girls and a guy: they both suck his cock, he then fucks one of them vag, then anal, while the other sits and pretends to masturbate, then he cums on her face. Two guys and a girl, she sucks one cock, gets fucked vag while she sucks the other cock, dp, the kneels down while each guy stands either side of her and then they cum on her face one by one, the cue the slo-mo replay. As I read on here once before, they're just going through the motions.

Despite all the money that went into Gladiator series, they're no better than any of their previous releases, and are only saved by Rita Faltoyano's fantastic tits.

My main gripe with Private, despite being a long-time fan, is David Perry: is this guy an asshole or what. If Steve Holmes wasn't ugly and scrawny enough to turn most women off, we have to deal with Perry acting like a retard. It's even worse when they don't bother to dub him and we have to listen his predictable accent ridden bullshit.

Cheers

MLyons
Senior Member

1617 Posts
8/02
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 5:32PM
Jimmy C,

Welcome to the forum. Your valid opinion of Private notwithstanding (I have to wholly agree about the Gladiator series... what a complete waste of money. :), I don't see the need for such strong and seemingly personal attacks against David Perry and Steve Holmes. Steve for one is a regular contributor here. Would you say these things to David Perry's face? You're entitled not to like these performers, and you're certainly entitled to say, in this forum, that you don't like watching them for whatever reason, but let's just ease back and remember that some of them are members too, and we like having both you and them around.

Again, welcome to the forum!

Mike L.

Edited by - MLyons on 3/8/2003 5:36:29 PM

Hardware All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

Your other left
14594 Posts
3/02
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 5:32PM
"9) You signed an incredibly hot Aussie starlet but then forgot to put her in a half-decent movie, so you're just denying it ever happened"

Gotta agree with that one, Sbando.

Sbando Boy
Euro Babe Magnet

1839 Posts
6/01
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 7:17PM
That explains the Burger King mentality and the aggressive market strategies: they sign new directors every week (Ninn, Bellocchio, Romagnoli, J.M. Ponce, the mistery Scottish director) and they're constantly launching new labels and new titles (next month will be the turn of Private Café , "The first porn soap opera"). All in the name of "brand recognition".

On the American front, the deal with Michael Ninn has been quite disappointing. They hired Jodie Moore mostly to do promotion, and I'm fairly certain that Jodie's fans feel very frustrated.

On the Euro front, they chose Gianfranco Romagnoli (who's a big shot agent and a producer/director) to do all the hard work. He ghost-directs for Adamo and Del Mar, assembles the casts, shoots a myriad of vignettes.
In the new Xtreme, Calling A Gigolo , he also acts but, for some reason, his name doesn't appear anywhere in the credits.

My main complaint though, is with their very customer-unfriendly policy.
The new labels are confusing, the covers are undistinguishable. The new Private Shop, as flashy as it looks, is badly designed and it's really complicated to find stuff.

Most of all, I miss Roger/PrivateDVD's monthly updates of their new releases. A different era and a different way to deal with their customers and fans.

Edited by - Sbando Boy on 3/8/2003 7:18:06 PM

Aerola
New Member

1 Posts
3/03
Posted - Mar 9 2003 : 1:57AM
I must really say I am moved to post for the 1st time out of protest and disappointed at a company that I once loved but has begun to fall into the abyss.

I am extremely disappointed in Private now. Spando, they lost me when they let Pierre Woodman go. I think Kovi and Adamo's style is very, very by the numbers formulaic sex. And I can't for the life of me see what's REAL about "Reality"?!?! These 2 directors exhibit no feeling for sex it looks like they do it just for the money. (To me) Dreary and completely devoid of heat or any passion whatsoever. Just a load of pretentiousness. I am particularly disappointed because I used to crave with lust after the next XXX, Triple X, and Pirate ect. Now the only thing worth watching from them is Private castings...

They are using the same girls now over and over again :(

All the pans up to the guys face (I'm not gay don't & want to see the guy making funny faces) They should be on their knees to Pierre Woodman begging him to come back of find someone new like him and quick who brings us new girls. He brought us new beautiful fresh natural looking girls all the time and although his scenes look a little over controlled "of late" by that I mean the men he chooses to perform tend not to exhibit much lust after the girls.

Private please listen! Please! Wake up or I think you are toast. Get back to what you did before, what made you the biggest and best!!! What you did before with the XXX's and the Triple X Pirate. Get intouch with your former viewers who made you big and stop all this silly pretentious tinkering around and find your focus again. I suspect the ground swell of opinion is with me on this and I feel strongly about this because you WERE the best. Look at them now...:( I miss the Private that was. Please come back to me.

 
Sbando Boy
Euro Babe Magnet

1839 Posts
6/01
Posted - Mar 9 2003 : 3:39AM
My first reply to Ayb was in jest, of course.
Whatever makes you people happy!

My complaints, instead, are for real.
And I'd really love to see Private post and answer messages in this Board again.

MLyons
Senior Member

1617 Posts
8/02
Posted - Mar 9 2003 : 10:38AM
Aerola--

Welcome to the forum!

I would have to personally agree with your analysis in general. I haven't watched too much of Private's most recent stuff precisely because of the stuff I've seen from Adamo and the trailers I've seen lately. I call it the difference between the first age (Pierre Woodman, Frank Thring, etc.) and the second age (Adamo, et al) of Private. I prefer the first age much more--but I think that people like Aybease might prefer the second. I imagine that in some strange way with their more formulaic and quite yuppy attitude in the second age that they are probably reaching a broader audience. Maybe there's still room, though, for them to bring back some of that less slick, more human rawness that really propelled them to greatness in the first place. I don't know. With the direction they're moving in, I just don't see it happening. You never know though. :)

To be fair though, I haven't seen a whole lot of their recent stuff, but I've seen enough to know that I'm not too excited about running out and getting it. I am on a Tanya Hyde kick right now though, but she(?) has long since departed from Private.

Mike L.

David X
Member

128 Posts
5/02
Posted - Mar 9 2003 : 10:43AM
I haven't yet seen the very latest Private releases ("Private Cafe 1" on the Black Label, "Calender Girl" on Private Gold, and "Caribbean Vacation" on Private Tropical), but I was very impressed with Kovi's last two Black Labels ("Private Love Story" and "Sex Secrets of the Paparazzi"): they made me think "Lust Tango in Paris" might not have been an accident after all. (Or were they "ghost-directed" as SbandoBoy puts it in another connection? Or was I overly enamoured of Michelle Wild and my major cutie-pie Dora Venter?) I also thought "Gladiator 3" was top-notch Adamo, though his consequent movies were a bit disappointing to me (I was hoping he was getting back to his original excellence). I still blindly buy Private, possibly victimized by subliminal advertising (as someone jokingly suggested).

That said, Aerola's sentiments on this subject mirror mine almost exactly. (Welcome to ADT! Please post more, as your pornologic is impeccable!:)) What a dream to have Pierre Woodman back at Private! Do you think it's possible?

Diesel's article was a joy to read, particularly as it seemed to justify my own tastes. (And he favors Blake too: how perfect!)

And to our resident expert on the subject, SbandoBoy: we always hurt the one we most love. I have no doubt that Mr Prast was brought in to make the shareholders happy, but last time I checked the hemorrhaging hasn't stopped (under $2 and dropping!) I never thought I'd miss Milton Jr at the helm. No news for 3 months: I think there is serious cause for alarm. Pray that PrivateDVD comes back here to explain/reassure. Have you noticed that Private Shop's available catalogue (even of the DVD's) is incredibly sparse? Only one of the Virtualia's, for example. I wonder what's going on.

Sbando Boy
Euro Babe Magnet

1839 Posts
6/01
Posted - Mar 9 2003 : 2:16PM
How true, my dear David. I can't let it go.

Kovi has made some nice little movies, from Indiana Mack on. Light-hearted and pretty well crafted. He also has a great stable of girls, although I still don't understand why someone would want to hide Maya's beautiful face behind
a Kiss make-up.

Adamo is a very professional film-maker and a master videographer. I'm sure that my friends here will appreciate his Cleopatra.

The new Private Shop is a mess. Broken links stay broken for a week and it took them a month to add a nav bar, so that people could actually navigate the site.

I don't know if you're familiar with the tv series Angel, but Prast and his New Economics attitude remind me of Angel's "Wolfram & Hart".

Wally
Senior Member

1821 Posts
8/01
Posted - Mar 9 2003 : 6:28PM
One thing that is not mentioned often is that when Pierre Woodman left Private, they not only lost a great porn Director but all the girls that Woodman use in his videos. If you take the time to see his work from Hustler you'll see that there is a ton of beautiful, gorgeous babes that first will show their pretty faces in a Toni Ribas or Evil Angel video before appearing in any Private's (if they appear at all,that is). ..so right there the feeling of exclusivity is gone. ..If you ask me, Private these days looks more in more like Vivid and let me explain this before you jump to conclusions. ..More and more everytime I go to the videoshops here in NYC I see less and less Private's on the shelfs. ..by that I mean in the "New Releases Section" ..Where you see lots of Private's is in the sales section (old stuff for $9.99) ..just like Vivid ...Private got a contract girl (Jodie) with lots a hype but those videos are not as great or hot as the videos she made for other porn companies before working for Private, ..same thing with many Vivid girls. ..clearly, Private is paying a lot more attention to the cable market this days ..just like Vivid ...So I would like to make an observation here; These days Private is making videos with the idea of appealing to a broader audiance. ..but I think they are failing miserably on doing that. ..Lets see: Raincoates (like myself) that used to go after Private videos (like a PittBull after a Poodle) for many years, are buying less and less of their stuff all the time. ...After reading a different thread in the couples friendly section of ADT I found out they are not doing so great with that crowd neither. ...more than that even porn fans that are just looking for porn where the girls are having fun (you know, girls that are "into it") and fucking like bunnies and definitely are Not really looking for anal & dps are staying away from Private also ..So my question is: Where is the broader Audiance everybody is talking about!? ..Private is trying to make everybody happy with CheeseBurgers but it's not working because the fans that help made Private the great company they got to be (once) got used to finer meals. They ain't buying it anymore. ..Some will say
to them I say, ..well.. there is people still buying Leisure Time too.
Frigo
Senior Member

1290 Posts
7/02
Posted - Mar 10 2003 : 3:28AM
what is private.com members area like? high quality vids and pics?
Sbando Boy
Euro Babe Magnet

1839 Posts
6/01
Posted - Mar 10 2003 : 4:30AM
Website-wise:
the members section of private.com used to be bad two, three years ago (heavy on scripts, diffucult to browse). Now it's awful. It doesn't allow you to open links in a new window, the pages are so heavy that moving from a page to another it's a pain, the site map is unfathomable.

Content-wise:
photo sets are not that great, pictures are small and only a few sets have bloated versions of the original pics.
The only redeeming value is the magazine archive, although they never upgraded from the original mediocre scans to better versions as promised a long time ago.

Frigo
Senior Member

1290 Posts
7/02
Posted - Mar 10 2003 : 4:41AM
does not sound to be worth the money to me. thanks for the info

i'll stick to the movies than

TempleG
Member

112 Posts
1/03
Posted - Mar 10 2003 : 3:34PM
This is a fantastic discussion: it's put its finger on many of the things that have been bothering me about Private. I did a real geek's review of stuff I've been buying recently, and whilst it has been mostly Private in the past, that is fading away at a rate of knots. The over-stylized, heat-free, crikey-that's-a-pretty-shot stuff seems to be aimed at a coffee-table porn market that... well, I'd be stunned if such a thing exists. It's hardly a pretty picture book to impress gandma with, is it? And photography that makes a woman taking a DP seem sexless is just weird.

Stuff I'm buying now are Hustler (blessed be Woodman - he's made their XXX series although the film looks shit half the time, and I'm going wherever Superfuckers are!), Red Light District (THAT is how to use video for porn), Anabolic and whatever company does the Killer Pussy line. Think I'm chasing sexual heat, here.

That said, Michelle Wild keeps me trying Private, but the return seems weaker each time. Perhaps I should become a shareholder - any of them here?

TG

aybesea
Senior Member

Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Mar 10 2003 : 3:55PM
<RANT>
Sorry, but I disagree!

This has not been a great discussion. I posted this thread because I thought that the last wave of releases from Private had been very strong. Since then, the thread has been hijacked to whine about Woodman leaving Private... again!

Get over it guys. I personally like Private a lot better since Woodman left. The women are hotter, the production values are higher, and the product costs less.

I don't have a problem if you guys worship Woodman, but don't hijack my thread and then celebrate about how great this discussion is.
</RANT>

 
TempleG
Member

112 Posts
1/03
Posted - Mar 10 2003 : 4:05PM
Um, sorry. Reality 14's bloody good, if that helps.
Speelie
Senior Member

Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
5/01
Posted - Mar 10 2003 : 4:09PM
Aybesea, does it make you feel any better if I were to point out that I don't much care for Woodman's non-Private product? But he was already moving towards cheaply produced vignettes even in his Private era. I was not as big a fan of the Private Superfuckers as many seem to be. But those were long movies, and one thing that really bugs me about the last year or so of Private releases is that run times have been reduced to circa 75 minutes, instead of 120 or more. I can't disagree that good production values are in place, along with pretty women, but I feel the longer movies of the past, including by Kovi and Adamo, offered more value.
Sbando Boy
Euro Babe Magnet

1839 Posts
6/01
Posted - Mar 10 2003 : 4:28PM
Ouch, ayb!

Disagreeing is not equal to hi-jacking.
I disagree and I also explained why.

I think that the discussion has been about Private and those same production values that you mention, and not about personal tastes. By the way, no one is able to tell me "how" those production values are higher these days.

Time will tell who's right.

aybesea
Senior Member

Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Mar 10 2003 : 4:31PM
Sbando, no hard feelings. It just struck me when I read that comment so I let it out.

It must be my time of the month.

fannatastic
Member

England
212 Posts
4/01
Posted - Mar 11 2003 : 6:00PM
Does it really matter if recent Private releases are good or bad?

Should we concern ourselves with this triviality when there is a far more important issue to address?

How can we talk about such things when a huge problem is staring us in the face, one which nobody seems willing to confront?

Why is there no space between the 1 and 2 after Topic is 2 pages???

fannatastic

Steve Holmes
Senior Member

1235 Posts
12/02
Posted - Mar 12 2003 : 4:39AM
Don't worry, I'm not getting pissed off so easily. I know, that some people don't like my looks and can't imagine that girls like to work with me.

Steve Holmes




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