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Beaumont Livingston
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Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 3:44PM
The only girl that I can think about responded to me after I expressed how much I wanted to be with her. Although she says some nice things, I'm still taking this as a rejection because I did everything I could to make this happen, won't go into what. I think she felt uncomfortable talking on the phone so she wrote me an E-Mail. This girl is special to me though,there really isn't anyone that comes close to her from my point of view as of right now. I'm taking this pretty hard and need some advice to get over it, here is the letter.
I want to begin by saying I have a lot of respect for you that you had the courage to tell me how you feel in the first place. Hearing it was a surprise, but extremely flattering. I appreciate that you acknowledge and respect the fact that I am in a relationship because I know not many guys would. Though we don’t know each other too well, you seem like a really great guy. I honestly think you’re gorgeous and as I told you before I did have a crush on you during our newswriting class. Unfortunately we didn’t have the chance to get to know each other better then, and I became involved with someone else. Things may have been different if I wasn’t such a baby and just told you how I felt then, but I believe everything happens for a reason. By saying this I don’t want to lead you on in any way because I think that’s one of the worst things you can do to another person. Like I said before I have been in this relationship for 2 years and things are going really good at the moment, I don’t know what’s going to happen after graduation, but I’m not even thinking that far ahead. I’m the type of person that likes to live in the moment and not stress about things that may happen in the future. I like to make the most of everyday and that’s why I respect you so much for putting your feelings out there for me.
Although I think you are a genuinely good guy (not to mention very handsome) I’m sorry that I don’t share your feelings. As I said if I wasn’t in a relationship I’d be more than happy to get to know you better, go out to dinner, and maybe become more than “just friends” but I can’t. I even feel guilty for saying that while I have a boyfriend, but I feel it’s only fair that I honestly tell you how I feel since that’s what you did for me. I’ve been cheated on and had my heart broken in the past and while that experience taught me a lot about myself and helped me grow as an individual, it also made me never want to hurt someone like that or put them through what I went through.
Thank you for finding me attractive, caring about me as a person, and having the balls to tell me that you’re interested. I hope we can still be friends next semester.
Edited by - Beaumont Livingston on Jan 29 2008
kataboom
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Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 3:58PM
you cant argue with that. be friends but continue to flirt with her regardless of bf status.
MissJanet
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Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 3:58PM
I would say that she really made an effort in her letter. She is polite, friendly and tells you in great detail that she likes you. But she also makes it clear that you and her won't happen.
Maybe you should go out with friends for awhile and let time soften the feelings you now have. From what her letter tells about her characterone thing is clear - you have good taste in women and you treaded her about right. You'll find someone who is available.
Edited by - MissJanet on 1/29/2008 4:02:11 PM
MissJanet
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Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 4:00PM
One question: didn't you know that she was in a relationship?
Edited by - MissJanet on 1/29/2008 4:04:32 PM
SexyHard
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Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 4:07PM
Does she know that you posted a personal communication on a porn board?
 
Kimi Lixx
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Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 6:05PM
I wrote almost that exact letter to someone and he still can't seem to understand that I am not interested in having a relationship with him. Now he tries to bully me into accepting his "friendship", which is only a new way of pressuring me to get close to him. I have come to dread receiving his emails and to consider blocking them altogether.
Why do some people seem to think that because they want to pursue a relationship you are somehow obligated to let them chase after you and try to persuade you to do something you don't want?
My advice to you is to look somewhere else. This woman does not want you. Some other woman will. If you insist on continuing some kind of relationship with this woman, I would suggest defining it as "extremely casual friendly acquaintance". Someone you talk to when you bump into her now and then.
Beaumont Livingston
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Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 6:29PM
Yes, I did but since this girl is so special I had to take a risk and try anyway.
Beaumont Livingston
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113 Posts
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Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 6:32PM
No but since our real names are not revealed I doubt she'll ever find out and if she does, she'll just have to understand that I needed some advice. The posters here on Adult DVD Talk have always been very mature for the most part so I don't look at this as a negative thing.
myk
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Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 9:02PM
Its a strong 'thanks but move on to one of the other 3 billion women in the world' message. Polite, but firmer than a restraining order. Move along, be civil, expect nothing.
Myk
kataboom
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Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 11:07PM
yeah - being a stalker is not an option. keep that in mind. if she doesnt want it, then let it be man.
BSD
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Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 11:41PM
BEAUMONT -
Drink heavily, wallow in self-pity and despair for about two weeks, get up, move on.
That's the way I handled dozens of those.
Smile.
BSD
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You'll be alright. Just don't do anything stupid.
ntfighter
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Posted - Jan 30 2008 : 2:57PM
what about it Beaumont, can you be her friend next semester?
Beaumont Livingston
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Posted - Jan 30 2008 : 4:07PM
Thanks for your advice but I get the feeling that this is slightly different from your situation. It seems as if you had no interest at all in the guy that keeps E-Mailing you. Judging by this letter, conversations and text messages I believe that this girl does have a certain level of interest. I think she is somewhat regretful that she didn't make a move earlier. The reason I'm taking this hard is because I blew my chance with back when she was single. She used to give me looks and things of that nature but I brushed it off because I didn't appreciate her at the time. Over the last couple years she has grown on me and I've come to realize that she is special. As far as stalking goes and things like that, I'll never consider doing that. I'm gonna leave her alone and not even bother her. We have seen each other once so far and she was very nice and seemed much more confident since I expressed how I felt about her. I let her know that the door is open for the rest of the semester so if by any chance she breaks up with her boyfriend, hopefully she'll contact me.
TheMightyCelestial
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Posted - Jan 30 2008 : 5:40PM
I've never gotten a rejection letter.
But then again, I'm illiterate.
So maybe I have, but didn't know it.
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Posted - Jan 31 2008 : 1:19AM
Ah, Dr. Phil is on in the afternoon!
 
ma meeshka
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Posted - Jan 31 2008 : 1:24AM
it might be because you share the same name as a chris tucker character.
hanniballs_licktor
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Posted - Jan 31 2008 : 3:44PM
The best way to get over someone is to go out and pick up!
Then tell the girl you went out and picked up and how much better they were than them.
But as your a sensitive caring guy I don't think you would do that, so just take life easy and one day you'll meet a great girl and both of you will feel the same way.

And don't over complicate life and try to get too much too soon, you will fall and burn.

lilacwine
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Posted - Jan 31 2008 : 6:42PM
Live your life or sit and wallow, the choice is yours. You never know what's around the bend.
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Posted - Jan 31 2008 : 7:27PM
I'll say it again ladies, the Dr. Phil show is on every afternoon.
Smiler Grogan All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 1 2008 : 1:52AM
And that's the right decision. Don't force it. If it happens, great, but if not, it just wasn't meant to be.
And I feel ya brah. 12 years ago, I was involved with a great woman when I was 23. Really my first great love. I'll call her Tori in honor of Tori Welles :) She had a 1-year old and was getting out of a bad relationship with the drinking, drugging baby-daddy. We worked together at a dead-end bank job. (We were both tellers) I would talk to her a lot, then we started going to happy hour every once in a while, then once a week, then we started hitting the clubs on weekends and one thing led to another and then Bada-Bing!
We dated for a year and a half and I was in heaven. But then I went back to school to finish a languishing degree and maybe make myself into a decent possible heaven. I got a different part-time job and therefore we weren't seeing much of each other and she started to get the impression that I didn't love her as much as I said. She apparently had deep seated insecurities that were coming to the fore. She never sent me a note, but just stopped returning my calls. That hurt more than a note to be honest.
The worst part? The sex had been off the chain. Since she had a kid and a roomate, and I had three roommates at the time, we rarely had sex in one of our's pads. Sometimes it was in a motel, but more often than note it was in the back seat of a car. We sometimes spent an hour riding around trying to find a secluded spot, safe from the prying eyes of the county police. Let me just say, I got very familiar with the warehouse districts of the area. And BTW, I never discussed porn with her. EVER. To say those were unbelievable nights would be putting it mildly. And then...pffft!
Some friends told me I would get over it, plenty of fish in the sea, blah blah blah, but it hasn't happened. So I'm not gonna preach to you and tell you that you're eventually going to get over it. If you feel that strongly about it that you're talking about it here, I won't attempt to judge your feelings.
Twelve years later, I'm married. And a successful accountant. And happy. but I still think about her. Admittedly (and I'm ashamed of this) sometimes while having sex with the current wife. But there's no going back. It happened and it's over. It's something lots of guys and gals just have to live with.
Like I said, if you're leaving the door open and she comes back fine. But keep guard, you don't know when her doubts about you might come up again.
But otherwise move on. If you don't want anyone else than there's no shame in being lonely. Better to do that then to be with someone JUST to be with someone. Lot's of people do that and they're just wasting time. In time, you will find someone, somehow, someway.

"What's weirder, enjoying porn or collecting stamps?"

Beaumont Livingston
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Posted - Feb 1 2008 : 9:40AM
Thanks for the advice everyone, I just want to also mention since this board is packed with Teagan fans, this girl doesn't look like Teagan but she's one of the few girls I've seen that reminds me of her, she just has that Teagan look. What I'm trying to say is that she's basically on Teagan's level as far as looks go but I like everything about her, not just her looks.
Edited by - Beaumont Livingston on 2/1/2008 9:41:28 AM
jayo All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 1 2008 : 6:58PM
Having chased a number of women who did not want me, some of whom were very kind in letting me down, some tactless, I suggest this:
Cut her loose and look for someone else. Be friends, be friendly, but mentally start looking elsewhere. If you think there's nobody else, you're wrong. They may have a different combination of attributes, physical, personality, spiritual, whatever, than this girl, but there are other winning combinations.
If you stay hooked in a stalled situation, you'll just be miserable longer.
Easier said than done, I know. Been there, done it, bought the t-shirts. Every time I thought I'd found the Woman of My Dreams and blew it, I eventually found another object of my affection who I thought was the Woman of My Dreams. She was different, but wonderful in her own way and flawed in her own way.
Cut yourself loose and give the wounds a chance to heal.
cochise
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Posted - Feb 5 2008 : 2:16AM
If you continue to press it, I think she will begin to dislike you. I'd take the advice to start looking elsewhere.
Beaver
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Posted - Feb 12 2008 : 3:45PM
I take it you are in college so my advice is GET OVER IT and enjoy college!
There are plenty gorgeous women out there man.
And if you want my honest opinion about this girl from that letter she is a selfish teasing bitch.
She says she doesn't want to "lead you on" but says at least 3 times how she thinks you're "hot" or whatever, and if she wasn't involved she'd fuck you and all that (reading between the lines).
My advice is completely ignore her from here on out, and I guarantee you she'll become interested if that's what you want.
But if it were me I'd just completely write her off!
Good luck, and ENJOY COLLEGE! You only go once!
Edited by - Beaver on 2/12/2008 3:46:48 PM
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Posted - Feb 12 2008 : 7:04PM
Date others, be her friend. As long as you're cool about it you can get to know her better without any pressure. Just make sure she knows you're dating people, not pining over her. Don't waste any time though - you're in college surrounded by interesting people - you don't get that later in life - sleep around (with condoms of course.)
 
nietzsche
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Posted - Feb 13 2008 : 1:38AM
I wonder if she does anal.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Feb 13 2008 : 9:13AM
Leave her the hell alone.
Because she was too spineless to just tell you to fuck off because she wasn't interested. She actually bothered to write a long whining email trying not to hurt your feelings.
If she cared she would have told you in person something like "I have a boyfriend but I am flattered, thank you for noticing me".
Sending you an email of all things was incredibly impersonal bullshit. Real people do not communicate that way and it reeks of drama to bother writing such a thing especially because it created drama for you.
This is the modern day equivalent of writing a note and tying it to an arrow and firing it at your front door. Or pinning it to your door with a dagger.
If she were a grown up adult type person she would have just told you she was not into you/she has a boy already/whatever else. Doesn't matter. Point was that you were genuine and sincere when you told her you liked her (I am assuming you did not do it by email, if you did I am way off base here and disregard this whole note) and she fired off an email to you. That is what I do when I do not want to talk to someone.
What the fuck does that mean? If things "happened for a reason" then why does anything happen ever? I want to know the reason why everything happens. What is the "reason" behind anything in the world? It seems to me that if anything had a choice (reason for happening) then nothing would bother to exist because it would be far to lazy to have come up with a reason to do so.
This is bullshit because it is her choice and it happened because she chose it. It did not "happen for a reason" it happened by decision and she is too much of a child to notice that. There is not some kind of mystical "reason" behind what happened. Don't believe the hype. She thinks she was being nice to you, she was not.
There is a real reason why when I turn on my stove it gets hot. Electricity is involved, etc. What she means is "I have a bullshit excuse for you but do not want you to think I am a retarded bitch so hopefully this will placate you so the rest of school does not become awkward for us".
Also, do nothing but drink booze and read books. And I also wonder if she does anal, and if not, what is the reason?
Why is the sky blue? Why is water wet? Why does eating garlic make my breath stinky? There are no reasons. Things are as they are because that is how they are.
One hand clapping anyone?

Edited by - conquistador on 2/13/2008 9:21:43 AM

Kimi Lixx
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Posted - Feb 13 2008 : 2:37PM
This thread has been valuable. I sent someone a clearer message than I had previously been sending. Trying to be nice to someone when you are rejecting them is apparently "spineless" and leads them on. I will never be nice again. (in a rejection letter)
How can you not be cruel when you reject someone? Is there a way?
conquistador
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Posted - Feb 13 2008 : 3:32PM
There are all sorts of ways to get rejected in life. Sometimes it involves work, or school and usually then it is some kind of professional thing but when feelings are involved there is no way for it not to hurt.
Hell, I feel a bit rejected when I smile at someone and get no reaction.
It is much better to be flatly reject then "led on" (however you happen to define it). The worst if being ignored.
And also I was being a bit harsh in my first post. She was probably feeling screwed up about the situation you placed her in and did not know how to talk to you about it.
I know it sounds like something you have heard before but to me getting rejected in a letter like this beats being totally ignored or being dumped after a while. If you are going to dump me I would rather not even bother you, I am long term like that because feeling stable is nice.
No I am not married but have been with the same lovely girl for 4 years this month. I know that isn't tremendously long but consider that she was 17 and I was 21 when we started out.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Feb 15 2008 : 9:51AM
I don't think you have to be cruel. Just be honest and don't leave any room for them to think there's any possibility. Some people will keep going as long as they interpret the response as a "maybe". I guess it's always possible they'd interpret a clear, honest response as cruel but as you say, if that's the case - if the person is that thick, they're going to end up being hurt or offended no matter what.
Cornell Lingus
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Posted - Feb 17 2008 : 10:52PM
You can add my dozens of those similar experiences. It's usually in that second or third week you go for about three straight days without showering and you hit bottom that you realize you stink and really need to shower, then get your ass out of the chair (or pile of empties, depending on the bottom you hit). Once you hit bottom, you enroll in your friends' Adopt A Derelict program and start looking for the next chick that will break your heart.
Cornell Lingus
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Carryin', contrarian, libertarian
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Posted - Feb 17 2008 : 11:04PM
Pay for a call girl to deliver the message and start the getting over you? Other than that, I'm stumped.
Once the guy has engaged in that emotional/romantic gesture to seeking commitment from the woman, the only good outcome from the dude's standpoint can be the woman saying yes. Anything else is crushing failure for him.
Clam Digger
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Posted - Feb 18 2008 : 10:06AM
I think that this girl did, without being cruel. If it didn't hurt so much I think that the OP might even have been flattered.
The classy way she handled this makes me think that her soul may even be more beautiful then her looks, which I suppose just makes it tougher to accept.
Sex is everywhere, but honor it precious.
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Feb 18 2008 : 12:32PM
Dude, are you blind? "at the moment?!?!?!" She's all but given you a key to her apartment with this line. You are plan B. Go for it!
Clam Digger
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Beaumont Livingston
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Posted - Feb 18 2008 : 5:18PM
I actually texted and asked if I coul call her and get a response but she was with her boyfriend so she wouldn't do it. The E-Mail situation was my fault but it was the only thing I could have done. I was gonna ask her on the last day of class but she didn't show up. Then I actually gave her the study guide for our exam and she actually gave me her number and wanted to study together, so I was gonna ask her then. By the time we planned to study, her boyfriend needed her car for some reason and we couldn't study together. It's my fault for putting it off 'till the end but at the time I thought E-Mail was the only option and I thought it put less pressure on her. Anyway, I regret sending the E-Mail and wish I could have went back and did it in person. I agree thought, E-Mail is a weak form of communication.
Beaumont Livingston
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Posted - Feb 18 2008 : 7:22PM
I just want to add that I thought she handeled the situation with a lot of class. I really didn't expect her to leave her boyfriend or cheat on her boyfriend, it was just one of those things where I had to tell her how I felt about her. I'm just having a tough time dealing with the fact that I blew my chance when she actually was interested. It's just not easy to put someone out of your mind when you think you've finally found someone special. People seem to think that there is this idea that all college's are filled with beautiful premiscuous sluts. That's not the case with this school at all. This girl is beautiful and she's a great person but aside from her there is not really anyone else I'm passionate about besides her.
TheLoneGunman
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400 Posts
10/03
Posted - Feb 19 2008 : 10:14AM
I personally have never had a problem with rejection. What DOES bother me is when a woman seems OFFENDED by the fact that I'm attracted to her. What's that all about? How can you be pissed off that someone finds you attractive?
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Feb 20 2008 : 5:57PM
Depends on what YOU look like and/or your image overall.
I'd be pretty offended to find out that Charles Manson had a crush on me.
Clam Digger
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Posted - Feb 20 2008 : 6:22PM
especially if you were his cell mate.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Feb 21 2008 : 7:35PM
Well, you're a dude so I guess you should be a little put off if another dude finds you attractive. And plus, most men aren't Charles Manson. Even if I don't find a woman particularly attractive, I'm always flattered if she compliments me. I think it's socially rude and insulting to react negatively to someone if they express attraction to you. You can reject someone without insulting them.
Kensington Chapp
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Mine is the biggest.
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Posted - Feb 24 2008 : 10:25AM
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Kensington Chapp
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Mine is the biggest.
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Posted - Feb 24 2008 : 10:28AM
Where's the fun in that?
One could just say that one is gay. I did that once. I was wearing a kinda flamboyant shirt that a female friend gave me for my birthday and would have been let down if I didn't wear it.. this desperate chick on leave from 3 tours in Lebanon or some place came onto me.
I said "I'm gay".
She said "No, you're not"
I said, "Ah come on, look at my clothes"
She left.
Cornell Lingus
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Posted - Feb 24 2008 : 1:42PM
Sir Kensington, I am shocked at your conduct. Unless the desparate chick was ugly enough to make a stone statue go limp, it is your duty as a gentleman to slip the trouser snake to those women on leave who sacrifice so much while in Her Britannic Majesty's service.
Clam Digger
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Posted - Feb 24 2008 : 2:04PM
I didn't know Brittany Spears had a service. When did that happen?
Kensington Chapp
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Mine is the biggest.
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Posted - Feb 24 2008 : 2:40PM
She was pretty hot, butt the short hair was a real turn off.
Mr. Lingus, I think she had a little too much of the old Justin Trousersnake... she was probably passed around like a doobie while on tour.
Wait... if she was, she wouldn't be as upfront about being cock-ravenous when she got home.............................. d'oh.
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Cornell Lingus
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Posted - Feb 24 2008 : 4:09PM
Kids, you must learn from Sir Kensington Chapp's episode. Never pass up an opportunity for sex because every chance you pass up is one you won't get back later.
Clam Digger
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Posted - Feb 24 2008 : 4:40PM
Actually I have passed up so many I'm in the minus column.
I think about it, it is an odd way to be in debt.
Edited by - Clam Digger on 2/24/2008 4:41:55 PM
Kensington Chapp
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Mine is the biggest.
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Posted - Feb 24 2008 : 5:11PM
Clam, you need to get your finger out.
BustdownGal
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Posted - Mar 15 2008 : 10:07PM
Beau,
Stop.
Communicating.
Now.
1. Email is not a weak form of communication. It's the same as paper and pen, except more legible. She clearly told you how she felt.
2. Stop communicating now. You say "I'd never stalk her" but you can't even see that you're already acting like one. Don't call. Don't text. Don't email. Don't stand under her window with a boombox.
3. Your passion is selfish and is not based on making her happy. You can't even see this because you're too deep in it. If you were about making her happy, you wouldn't have attempted to start something romantic with a woman who's already in an LTR. Dirty pool, boy. Dirty pool. The best way to make her happy, from what you've told us, is to leave her alone. Is to in no way manipulate her into thinking that "you're cool" with the whole situation. You're not cool. You're in a state of immature love and you're focussed on "winning the prize" and not on starting a healthy relationship.
4. Next time, you'll know better than to ignore girls who like you.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 15 2008 : 10:42PM
^^^
Jesus, are you ever in a pissy mood!
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