Reluctant acceptance

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Nobody Member 19 Posts 4/08	Posted - Feb 12 2011 : 10:04PM I've seen this in two movies, both were in the "White chicks licking black crack" series. The actress is there to shoot some pictures only. The producer or whoever it is off camera asks if she would be willing to suck or fuck. The girl says no for whatever reason, because of a boyfriend, husband, or just trying not to do porn anymore. Anyway, the off camera guy keeps asking..pressuring her until finally she gives in. Anyone seen scenes like this? [Link]
Nobody Member 19 Posts 4/08	Posted - Apr 3 2011 : 5:03PM Really??? 114 replies to a rape thread but not one to this topic? Never realized rape was so popular. [Link]
ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08	Posted - Apr 3 2011 : 5:19PM Maybe that's because everyone's answer is "No, I have not seen any scene like that". And even if such a scene exists, it can't help but come off as scripted/staged. I've seen a couple of Rodney Moore scenes where the "subject girl" gets talked into performing a BJ or sex, but you know they're just acting out a scenario. They agree too soon, too easily, after being asked only 2 times; and usually the girl is at least a little bit interested from the very beginning. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Apr 3 2011 : 5:29PM 1. I have some vague memory of something like that in a few scenes but I honestly couldn't tell you which ones. 2. When I see stuff like this, I often have to take it with a grain of salt. There is apparently a segment of the porn viewing base that gets off on the "Good girls being corrupted by the dirty old pornographer" act. I find it's often hard to tell if it's scripted or not. I tend to come down on the side of it being at least somewhat scripted, since there is little in porn that isn't. If I saw stuff like this and I knew for a fact that it was real, I'd have a problem with it and would probably remember which movies they were. 3. The rape thread is 3 years old, if I recall. This one's been here for a couple of months and appears to have been posted on a Saturday night at around 10. ADT is typically dead around that time on a Saturday night so there were probably few people hanging around here when you posted it and threads that are not picked up on right away tend to sink like a stone and disappear off the front page. If you want to know why it is probably because there was no one reading at the time who had anything to contribute. The rape thread was originally posted at a time when ADT was more active and had more regulars. Beyond that, a thread with "rape" in the title is bound to cause more of a commotion than one called "Reluctant acceptance". Edited by - randomprecision on 4/3/2011 5:40:34 PM [Link]
hoochimama Deactivated User 1438 Posts 5/10	Posted - Apr 3 2011 : 5:38PM In purrfect productions' videos with Julie K Smith and Stacy Moran where there's actual vaginal penetration, it's done reluctantly "Don't worry, it's just the tip". [Link]

zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10	Posted - Apr 3 2011 : 5:42PM What girl goes to a porn shoot just to take pictures? Maybe she goes to a camera shoot for a magazine or online site and ends up doing some unplanned hardcore shots. I remember some HBO series about strippers where Miss Bunny did this with her boyfriend. She claimed that was the first time she ever shot hardcore but couple years later she was doing hardcore scenes for Evasive Angles. Maybe the girl goes to a shoot just to do BJs and ends up fucking that happens a lot probably. Also heard about cases where girl was there to just work behind the camera doing makeup or working as assistant and the girl who was scheduled to work that day does not show up so she is asked to perform in her place. I remember watching some BTS for a Diana Devoe movie where she mentions that Trinity Post has done this for her a few times. Trinity Post always works as director's assistant for Diana Devoe on her movies. [Link]
Shotgun84 Member A great philosopher once wrote naughty, naughty, very naughty. 167 Posts 1/10	Posted - Apr 4 2011 : 8:31AM Most of the scenes in one of the whitezilla dvds (the one with lexi belle I think) are like this where the girl is unsure at first but gets talked into it. I guess it's staged as they are all well known pornstars [Link]
Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10	Posted - Apr 4 2011 : 9:26AM These types of scenes are ALL STAGED. There are exceptions that prove every rule, but all these 'I got talked into it' scenes are staged......all of them. [Link]
Nobody Member 19 Posts 4/08	Posted - Sep 4 2011 : 4:05AM Of course it's all staged. If this was a mainstream movie site and I asked for a tourture movie, I think it would go without saying it's staged/acting. Anyway, the two movies that have perfect examples of this are White Chicks licking black crack 2 and 6. Lisa Marie in part 2 and some pregnant girl in part 6. They show up to do a photo shoot, but pressure and money pushes them to do more. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Sep 4 2011 : 4:39AM You might find interesting the whole Casting X series of Pierre Woodman , there are many girls who had to be convinced with many efforts and there are other who only did the casting shoot and then disappear , many of them became pornstars but many didn't I don't know how much of it was scripted nor how much wasn't , the fact is that many of that flicks weren't supposed to be published , for example the casting of Silvia Saint came out after she was long retired I remember one with a russian blondine which scene has been cut some times and then resumed the girl was escaping from down pierre , not actually escaping but wasn't very much into it, so he had to stop talk talk to her (maybe this part is not shown)at the end he managed to fuck her even in the ass , that girl did that flick only. I can't suggest any special of them, can't remember which star was in what collection there are so many of them , try to find out through IAFD from star lists if there's one or more of your interest Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 9/4/2011 4:48:54 AM [Link]
David Cop-a-feel Deactivated User Trust me, honey, it gets better 323 Posts 10/10	Posted - Sep 4 2011 : 3:37PM A few of performer/director Phillipe Soine's titles for German company Magma utilised the "reluctant" scenario quite well. If you're super-insistent I'll try and dig 'em out for ya. I think one of them was called "Interview with a Pervert". [Link]
a9nostic Senior Member 1056 Posts 8/08	Posted - Sep 5 2011 : 7:42PM Pierre Woodman does this all the time. And it doesn't look scripted. I get the impression that he has to go through a few girls and fail, just to get one that works out. [Link]
rickybizness Member I like nice asses 102 Posts 5/10	Posted - Sep 6 2011 : 11:30AM ninja1 wrote: Maybe that's because everyone's answer is "No, I have not seen any scene like that". And even if such a scene exists, it can't help but come off as scripted/staged. I've seen a couple of Rodney Moore scenes where the "subject girl" gets talked into performing a BJ or sex, but you know they're just acting out a scenario. They agree too soon, too easily, after being asked only 2 times; and usually the girl is at least a little bit interested from the very beginning. Click to expand I think we can all agree that 99% of porn is scripted or at least "fake". Some are shot well enough that you can suspend disbelief and get lost in the moment long enough to enjoy the fantasy. They can be done well and unless you are such a sceptic that you can't lose yourself in the scene, it can be quite enjoyable. I enjoy videos where it appears that the girl isn't there for the scene but gets talked into it. It's not a "rape" thing, it's just a moment where you, (are hoping) that she just got horny enough by being there and being asked that she just can't resist. A lot of people fantasize about girls who just can't say no to you or a sexual opportunity so that's what it plays on. There is a great scene in The Gangbang Girl 14 where Rebecca Lord finally joins in after watching Vanessa Chase get run through by a bunch of dudes. She gets all worked up and finally joins in and takes over. Of course it's totally staged but It worked for me and if you like that kind of scenario, it should work for you. Oh, and it's great if you like gangbangs on fake construction sites. I don't know what you would call that but I'm sure there is a name. [Link]
magda2000 Member 69 Posts 12/08	Posted - Sep 8 2011 : 6:58AM nice post rickybizness ... why can't we see more of this theme in porn? ... any suggestions for good movies with reluctant women finally giving in despite their virture, being married, etc ... [Link]
ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08	Posted - Sep 8 2011 : 10:35AM Well here's an idea to add to the believability. Have the girl actually say no and not have sex. This will add some realism and make it less porny. Maybe have one guy who gets turned down, and make sure it is a very well-acted Hollywood-style scene where the guy is saying all the right things and using his best lines and everything. Then have him meet a different girl and use all the same lines and have to work just as hard and the 2nd girl finally reluctantly agrees. That would be a believable scene. Or have the first girl meet a second guy and the second guy's game is a little bit different and he has success with the girl. Make the challenge more difficult and make the outcome less predictable. [Link]

torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00	Posted - Sep 8 2011 : 10:39AM Nobody wrote: I've seen this in two movies, both were in the "White chicks licking black crack" series. The actress is there to shoot some pictures only. The producer or whoever it is off camera asks if she would be willing to suck or fuck. The girl says no for whatever reason, because of a boyfriend, husband, or just trying not to do porn anymore. Anyway, the off camera guy keeps asking..pressuring her until finally she gives in. Anyone seen scenes like this? Click to expand I like this idea if it seems organic and natural and not some trite setup. It would have to be with an unknown or veggie only starlet to work to maximum Porn Drift effect. [Link]
torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00	Posted - Sep 8 2011 : 10:46AM RandomPrecision wrote: 2. When I see stuff like this, I often have to take it with a grain of salt. There is apparently a segment of the porn viewing base that gets off on the "Good girls being corrupted by the dirty old pornographer" act. I find it's often hard to tell if it's scripted or not. I tend to come down on the side of it being at least somewhat scripted, since there is little in porn that isn't. If I saw stuff like this and I knew for a fact that it was real, I'd have a problem with it and would probably remember which movies they were. Click to expand Yeah, unless they are vetted by the brain trust at AIM with the legitimate health certificates, I imagine a true "reluctance" type scene would put the producer at legal risk if someone got infected. It's like all those Rogue Adventure Tgirl encounters where Joey and Fabio are cruising Brazilian streets in their car and happen to pick up a dental hygienist on her lunch break and hijinks enuse. I'd like to believe that that spontaneity is serendipitously occuring, but legal and health logistics tell me that if Evil Angel won't allow asskimo pies why would they be so casual on Brazilian tgirl scenes? [Link]
inquisitive Member 162 Posts 12/08	Posted - May 30 2012 : 8:19PM hoochimama wrote: In purrfect productions' videos with Julie K Smith and Stacy Moran where there's actual vaginal penetration, it's done reluctantly "Don't worry, it's just the tip". Click to expand i saw this a while back...pretty interesting. do you know if there were more vids of B-actresses that did private videos similarly? Thanks. Edited by - inquisitive on 5/30/2012 8:21:44 PM [Link]
inquisitive Member 162 Posts 12/08	Posted - May 30 2012 : 8:21PM David Cop-a-feel wrote: A few of performer/director Phillipe Soine's titles for German company Magma utilised the "reluctant" scenario quite well. If you're super-insistent I'll try and dig 'em out for ya. I think one of them was called "Interview with a Pervert". Click to expand Can you be more specific? I tried to look up the title and came up with nothing. Thank you. [Link]
David Cop-a-feel Deactivated User Trust me, honey, it gets better 323 Posts 10/10	Posted - May 31 2012 : 7:12PM ^ Sorry, I re-read the OP and the Phillipe Soine stuff is more sort of "coercive but gives in", borderline -rape stuff but not done as a photography scenario. But I think just about any of Rodney Moore's many titles feature a scene or two like the one's you're looking for. Try his We Swallow/I Swallow series for starters. Edited by - David Cop-a-feel on 5/31/2012 7:14:24 PM [Link]
inquisitive Member 162 Posts 12/08	Posted - May 31 2012 : 7:22PM David Cop-a-feel wrote: ^ Sorry, I re-read the OP and the Phillipe Soine stuff is more sort of "coercive but gives in", borderline -rape stuff but not done as a photography scenario. But I think just about any of Rodney Moore's many titles feature a scene or two like the one's you're looking for. Try his We Swallow/I Swallow series for starters. Edited by - David Cop-a-feel on 5/31/2012 7:14:24 PM Click to expand so Soine stuff is staged just like Rodney? I've seen Rodney's stuff already. Thanks. [Link]
David Cop-a-feel Deactivated User Trust me, honey, it gets better 323 Posts 10/10	Posted - May 31 2012 : 9:20PM Well it's staged but it's like creeper/voyeur type stuff, not much talking involved. I guess it would probably qualify as rape-porn but with the females becoming enthusiastic participants. Edited by - David Cop-a-feel on 5/31/2012 9:22:54 PM [Link]
inquisitive Member 162 Posts 12/08	Posted - Jun 1 2012 : 1:03AM David Cop-a-feel wrote: Well it's staged but it's like creeper/voyeur type stuff, not much talking involved. I guess it would probably qualify as rape-porn but with the females becoming enthusiastic participants. Edited by - David Cop-a-feel on 5/31/2012 9:22:54 PM Click to expand Ok...btw, anyone remember that German series called "Excuse Me"...i thought a few tapes were real and staged, but later on, it all was faked or at least not good enough acting to at least make it look real. [Link]
David Cop-a-feel Deactivated User Trust me, honey, it gets better 323 Posts 10/10	Posted - Jun 1 2012 : 12:26PM ^ I believe it was actually Dutch, one of the few porn productions of any longevity that the country has produced despite being a major distribution and sales hub. [Link]