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Kperv
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Posted - Jan 15 2006 : 4:05PM
How about a link on each review that, when clicked, opens a thread for comments on that review?
If a thread for that review already exists, it could post the comment at the end of that thread.

It might provide some insights for those of us who don't write enough reviews to improve by simple experience.

OTOH, it might fill up with pointless bickering when someones favourite movie gets slammed or vice versa.

Good idea? Terrible idea?
Will the mere thought of implementing such a feature give Drew nightmares for a week?


(If Tech Talk is the wrong place for this, do please move it.)

Drew Black
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Posted - Jan 15 2006 : 4:24PM
steph and I have discussed this exact idea in the past. I don't remember the outcome though.
Pagoda
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Posted - Jan 15 2006 : 4:24PM
I was thinking of adding my @my.adultdvdtalk.com email address to the text of future reviews. That way people could take issue with me privately, ask me for more details; things like that.

A forum might be good, but you couldn't expect the more prolific reviewers to always respond to the threads. Some people review several movies per week. I think a review should stand on its own as the reviewer's last word on the subject, unless he or she chooses to discuss the movie further. In other words, I think it should be accepted without complaint if a reviewer doesn't wish to discuss a movie beyond what they wrote in their review. However, I think reviews can be a good jumping-off point for lively discussion among the all forum members.

Just my $0.02.

ObiBong
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Posted - Jan 15 2006 : 4:43PM
We're not talking about actual threads in the forum, right? More like blog-post comments? That could be kind of interesting.
Pagoda
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Posted - Jan 15 2006 : 4:56PM
Oh, in that case, that might easier for a reviewer to keep tabs on. All they'd need do is search for their own reviewer name every now and then, and read the comments, answering questions if they wish. Then it's not so much a discussion. I'm sorry, I misunderstood Kperv's idea.
 
Drew Black
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Posted - Jan 15 2006 : 5:08PM
Blog post comments are essientially the same thing as a forum message thread.
Kperv
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Posted - Jan 15 2006 : 5:13PM
Both...Kinda.

The main entry point to a particular review's comments, would be the review itself.
Like blog comments.

A secondary entry point could be a new forum with one thread for each review with comments. That way the regular search function could be used on the comments.
To be honest, I don't really know if this would be of any use.
Just an idea.

picman
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Posted - Jan 15 2006 : 5:33PM
A lot of us leave links to our email addresses in there but not a lot of feedback is forthcoming. I probably get as much email from assorted directors as from members and lurkers. Occasionally a thread gets started in the forums complaining about what a terrible job we're doing. Making it like a forum subject could be interesting, and potentially contentious.
ObiBong
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Posted - Jan 15 2006 : 5:45PM
But I meant as far as the actual location of the comments. As opposed to threads in the forum. Because that could get chaotic, no? Aren't there tons of people who read reviews but don't register for the forum? I was just thinking it might get messy.
Pagoda
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Posted - Jan 15 2006 : 5:56PM
I just request it mentioned in the Etiquette that reviewers aren't obligated participate in any threads stemming from their reviews. I would start a topic about about a movie in the Porn Pool if I wanted to discuss it in-depth with lots of people. If I just want to document my perceptions and leave them hanging in cyberspace, I'll write a review. I wouldn't want to be judged harshly if I sat out a discussion about a movie I'd already reviewed. I could see it becoming quite time-consuming for frequent reviewers. I'm not one yet, but likely will be eventually.

Edited by - Pagoda on 1/15/2006 5:57:39 PM

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Posted - Jan 15 2006 : 8:46PM
That's a hard one, it would help out people who have questions of 'who is this person' when the reviewer doesn't know, but it also just might turn into poorly worded critism of the reviewer and turn people away from reviewing.
Drew Black
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Posted - Jan 16 2006 : 9:13AM
That's along the lines of what I was thinking. In my experience people generally comment on something when they are disappointed or don't agree. (Think of those Rate-the-Service cards at restaraunts and hotels. How often have you filled out one of them?) A review is very subjective and depends a lot on a reviewer's personal preferences. I don't know how beneficial a comments system would be with this in mind.
Cumwhipper
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Posted - Jan 16 2006 : 9:27AM
+1 Separate thread for each review.

Seems like you'd need a new Forum Category, with it's own moderator(s), visible on the Message Forum page. But I think it's a great idea.

Drew Black
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Posted - Jan 16 2006 : 10:12AM
It wouldn't take me long to write this, but before I do so I'd really like to hear from a lot more reviewers on the idea.
MLyons
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Posted - Jan 16 2006 : 11:28AM
I don't know. I just don't know.

I certainly agree that reviews of movies can be a great jumping off point for some cool discussion. I've used my own reviews for this purpose with great results in the past, but on the other hand, I'm afraid, like others, that this kind of thing would end up being more of a discussion of the review rather than the movie, and I'm not sure that should be encouraged unless the particular reviewer is specifically asking for such discussion.

I think if it WERE done, then it should be to encourage discussion of the movie, rather than discussion of the review or the reviewer's opinion. And even then, I just... don't know. If someone has a differing view from the reviewer, why not write your own review? It's what we've always encouraged. More people will read it than anything you post in the forum, and that way the discussion remains about the movie rather than debating the "rights" and "wrongs" of individual taste.

If a reviewer is honestly looking for critiques about reviewing style, that of course is perfectly acceptable, but different reviewers like that criticism delivered in different ways. Some have started forum topics for that purpose (which as I understand it, is perfectly allowed), and some prefer email feedback. Some privately solicit feedback from reviewers thay admire (a very effective method, I might add). And some don't want feedback at all.

Anyway, I'm one of those that really enjoys public discussion of reviews, and I see the value of that for those who are trying to write better ones. It's always a fine line to walk, though, and it can get kind of spiteful and silly in a hurry. I'm just not sure that opening the doors to discussing review styles for every review that's written is a great idea--at least not without some guidelines in place, and some moderators that are willing to enforce them.

But that's just me. The bottom line is that we want to encourage people to write reviews--and express whatever opinion they want to express about a movie. I just think this kind of thing has to be delicately handled, lest our reviews and the people who write them become too much a product of peer pressure and less that of honest reactions.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. I'm just talking out of my ass, as usual. :)

 
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Posted - Jan 16 2006 : 12:37PM
We thought about tying this into the release calendar. I can see us having a "discuss this movie" link to open a thread but not a "discuss this review".

There are reviewers who have no desire to participate in any discussion of their reviews. And I don't want reviewers discouraged by the idiots who get off on internet trolling. Or getting pressured by producers.

Sbando Boy
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Posted - Jan 16 2006 : 4:02PM
All a reviewer needs after hours (or days) of hard work is getting the same attitude you usually get in Internet boards.
howie
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Posted - Jan 16 2006 : 10:02PM
Drew, Steph:

I vote -1 for the review board. I wouldn't want to spend time defending my review to others, especially directors/performers/studio reps. I've had 2 instances of directors e-mailing me in private about my poor rating for a movie, both of which left a poor taste in my mouth.

Also, a current thread in the Porn Pool asks that reviewers point out if the female is barefoot in each scene. I wouldn't want to monitor threads on my 100 reviews for such requests.

Then again I have no idea if people read my reviews or skip over them.

MLyons
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Posted - Jan 16 2006 : 11:42PM
Amen, brother. :)
I suspect you have nothing to worry about. :) I've read many of your reviews... I'm positive I'm not alone.
MASAMUNE
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Posted - Jan 17 2006 : 7:26AM
It would be interesting. I suppose you can give it a test drive for a while and take it down if it doesn't work out


if so, the "Discuss this movie" thingy would be wiser than "Discuss this review" as Steph mentioned. Discussions on movies presents more raw information and will be even more helpful to the consumer. I know for me, I usually can't come to a full deciscion based solely on a single review and look to the forum for more information before I make the purchase

ive dabbled with this idea in a few of my reviews as have other reviewers like Crucifixio. at the end of this review here there is a link to one of the forum threads on the movie. https://www.adultdvdtalk.com/reviews/read_review.dlt/sku=12606/second-thoughts.htm
Actually, i'd probably link all my reviews to their respective threads only most don't have one

its also a good way for the directors or performers in the movies themselves to get direct feedback. As you can see, director Stormy herself discussed her movie openly in that thread, as well as Michelle Lay [ invalid url ]

Edited by - MASAMUNE on 1/17/2006 7:53:25 AM

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Posted - Jan 17 2006 : 5:05PM
there is one logistical hassle with the "discuss this movie" and that's associating an existing thread with a movie sku. starting a new thread is easy enough, but the mods will get mad if we duplicate thread topics ;)
Bornyo
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Posted - Jan 17 2006 : 5:37PM
Derail for a second... As you might guess, I fill those things out compulsively. Never a complaint- just compliments... Sometimes its about the ease of access to the parking lot or the width of the parking spaces. Maybe even the brightness of the menu lighting or flowrate of the sodas.

I get the strangest follow-up calls.

Sorry.




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