We have pushed back the shooting date slightly because we weren't able to get ALL the TOP A-LIST guys I really, really want on the original date.

We are now shooting my scene on February 1 and Katja is shooting on February 7.

Wait till you see my guy lineup... it is looking so incredible now - I am so glad Dion, Jake Malone, and RLD are okay with shooting two weeks later so that we can have ALL the top guys.

This cast list should be finalized in the next few days, and as soon as it is absolutely final - I will post it.

I won't be able to walk for days... LOL

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Right as The Scene Ends Could You Give The Camera

a Little Wink That Would Be Sexy as Hell

Just Happy Being The Dumbest Guy On ADT

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RED LIGHT DISTRICT PART I
Dion approached me about shooting in RLD Gangbang Girls 3 in November and we had several meetings on it. We reached an agreement and I committed to the project. Katja Kassin was to be the other girl. In the first meetings, Dion said that he wanted Mike John to shoot Katja and Jake Malone to shoot me.

We actually spent two and a half hours shooting the boxcover on November 26 (and the pics are STUNNIG!!!).

Originally, we were going to shoot my gangbang in December, but too many of the guys were unavailable so we ended up booking January 16-17 for my shoot and January 19-20 for Katja. (I don't know if they shot Katja or not).

My dates were moved to January 31 and February 1 because I was pretty strong on wanting the TOP list possible for the 12 guy gangbang and they had some glitches booking all the guys for that date. According to the Production Manager for the shoot, the guys were booked for February 1. It was not an iffy thing- we were shooting.

EVOLUTION EROTICA RAISED THEIR HAND
Evolution Erotica approached me about shooting a mini-bang in December (8 guys) for a feature film Guy Capo was putting together. I contacted Dion and explained the situation and asked for permission to shoot the EE movie.

Dion was paying me a good rate for the RLD one and I would not want his marketing or sales of the movie to be compromised by a competing movie (even though it was COMPLETELY different from the RLD one). I told Dion that I would absolutely turn down the EE project if he required me to - I really wanted to shoot the RLD one and I had committed to it first.

After talking it through and a RARE agreement with EE, Dion gave me written permission to shoot the EE movie and kept my deal with RLD the same (EE actually agreed to not release their movie until the RLD was on the streets and selling - which I thought was an awesome validation of how much they wanted me in their movie and how cool they were with other companies in the industry). *Obviously, that no longer applies to EE since RLD did not shoot the movie and if they do, the release date for them will be so much later now it doesn't matter.

I shot the scene for Evolution in December. They completed shooting their movie in January (Katrina Kraven is the other girl).

The EE movie is going to be unbelievable... Guy's concept was very "Memento" like. He wanted to start with a girl dealing with an ocean of cum and then work the movie backwards to explain how she ended up getting gangbanged in the first place.

Just wait till you see me licking a river of cum flowing down the glass.... but, I don't want to spoil the movie for you. :)

My scene was shot in a dirty, grimy wharehouse (there is a reason why in the plot) and Guy shot it with the crane camera overhead, multiple cameramen on the ground. He is going to be working on multiple angle choices for the end viewer on the DVD. It is going to be pretty special...

Katrina's was shot in a incrediblly rich mansion (there is a reason for that).

RED LIGHT DISTRICT PART II
When the whole Dion/RLD thing happened I expected a little adjustment period for RLD. RLD assured me though that the bang was still on and to keep those dates for them. I did.

Then I started running into some glithes... I was told before AVN that Mike John was shooting my scene and he actually approached me at AVN show and said we needed to get together and talk about the scene. But, when we got back from AVN and I called RLD to set up a meeting with the production manager and Mike John I was told I needed to speak to Vince Voyuer before anything happened.

I have tried getting a meeting with Vince, but I have not been able to yet. He did tell me on the phone that he had not really seen my work and wasn't sure if I could deliver in a gangbang. :( That- I CAN do.

I did see the press release on AVN about the RLD updates and they did state they would shoot a RLD Gangbang Girls 3, but that "the girls had not been determined yet" so I am assuming that the deal is falling apart.

I do totally give Vince the benefit of the doubt from the standpoint that I am sure RLD has been working SO hard just to restructure and get everything running smoothly again after the sudden Dion departure. I am sure he has had many things on his plate. I would like to be able to just get the meeting with going.

DVSX TOO???
This past week, DVSX approached me and asked if I would do another mini-bang for them for their "Gangbang Darlins" line which I agreed to. It was a 6 guy scene.

ALL THAT TO SAY THIS
So, to clear up all the questions:

-I shot the EE scene with 8 guys in Decemeber. (It should come out in mid- March)

-I shot the DVSX scene with 6 guys this weekend (on the date I was supposed to be doing the RLD one)

-I have not shot the RLD scene (12 guys) yet and am not sure if it will happen, but I hope it does.

I really wanted to shoot the RLD scene. I had personally talked to a couple of guys who refuse to do gangbangs who agreed to do mine (like Manuel Ferrara and Michael Stefano). I know I was going to get Micheal Stefano, Brandon Iron, Manuel Ferrara, Steve Holmes, etc... it would have been a DREAM lineup.

I STILL want to shoot it. I will still actively persue it with Vince and hopefully will have some good news for you in the future. If it ends up not happening, then I am really glad I didn't have to turn down the EE one because that movie is going to fantastic.

I have been a little more open about this today than I normally am about industry dealings because:

a) I don't want all this confusion;
b) so much has changed since November when the gangbang thread was started;
c) I really want RLD to still shoot me;
d) MOST IMPORTANTLY - I will never allow myself to be in a position where porn fans feel I cheated them or misled them.

I sincerely apologize to any fans out there who were starting to get antsy as a result of the intial excitement of this scene vs. the ongoing "when is it going to happen?".

I would never intentionally let you down.

Selena Silver

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Sorry you said Jake was to shoot you,lol, so hope he gets to do it!!

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I have not yet had a chance to see you in a movie, but I am looking forward to the experience very much. Reading the reviews you write, and your bio material on your own websites, has been enough to put you on my "must see" list. Your personality shines through in everything you write.

All the best to you from a fellow Australian.
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That's why I would rather see Selena do a gangbang for Devil's Films.

Edited by - Ramsey on 2/3/2004 3:46:36 AM

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There IS a difference in the level of guys in porn and they DO make all the difference in the scene. You can put the two hottest girls in porn in a scene together with a lame guy and you will get a lame scene. I know.

Guys like Stefano, Iron, Ferrara, Holmes... they get the work because a) the girls love them and request them; b) they are ALWAYS hard and always deliver so the scene is SO much easier to shoot; c) they pull of the required sex positions better which makes the movie better to watch.

I wanted a 12 guy bang from RLD that was a list of future Hall of Famers. I wanted to always be able to say I had done that. I wanted to have a scene I KNEW that porn fans everywhere would marvel at.

RLD & PXP did a really smart thing by locking up the guys they did. I would request those guys for every single movie if I could.

And, yes Rene... it is SO hard to get them on the same day. The top level guys in LA are booked several months in advance. They get booked by a director before he or she even knows what movie they are shooting or what girl they are pairing them with.

There are very few guys in the whole world at their level -and that, by dear Ramsey - is why you see them again and again. :)

NOTE TO MIKE JOHN: our conversation was in passing in the walkway. We did talk. I started checking your stuff out after having enough fans rave about your work. Even if this bang doesn't happen - I would still LOVE to shoot for you. Of course, I am still hoping it does. :)

NOTE TO ALL MY ADT'ers: I don't play things out in public so I won't be "updating" constantly or working through the public forum to work on this. When there is a definite "go" or "no go" I will let you know. :)

Thanks so much for you interest!!!

Selena Silver

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There are a lot good performers out there like Sledgehammer, Wesley Pipes, Mark Anthony, Mandingo, Boz, J.Monty, Mr.Bigg and Justin Slayer for example yet they don't get the same exposure just because they're black, not fair but I know that's how the industry works but then again, that's another story.

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But mislead she did when she reviewed "Mason's Sexual Disorder," praising it to the heavens and giving it her 5-Star rating. I bought "MSD" and found it to be childish, amateur, and at times offensive.

When Selena raved at the director's deftness with storytelling, I was compelled. Now I know: Mason wouldn't recognize eroticism if it slapped her in the face. For every word of praise Selena wrote for "MSD" I can counter with two words of criticism. My money was ill spent.

I no longer trust Selena and won't buy any DVDs based on her review. My thinking is she promoted her friend to help her out. She used ADVDT and her forum to do so.

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And what about the other four positive reviews of sexual disorder? Also Mason's friends? Porn is subjective. Mason's movies elicit a love or hate response. Please feel free to provide your constructive criticism of the movie.

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Somebody help me here...What was the name of that other Mason film that preceeded SEXUAL DISORDER?

I think if you check out some of Selena's other reviews, you'll find a very diverse selection of styles and genres. It would be to your disadvantage to assume that everything she likes you will end up hating.

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Specifically, the key scene is the "hangar scene," which is referenced again in "MSD" in Katrina Kraven's meat-and-greet with Manuel Ferrara and Denis Marti (aka "X") in the same hangar. And the return of Julie Night (from the earlier "hangar scene") as the object of Mason's obsession. One thing for sure, it is not "fluffy bunny tender sex," and it is psychologically quite twisted -- but it's not like you wouldn't figure that out from reading the review. And, besides, if someone recommends a work that they themselves are involved with, they're only telling you how their experience was and how they enjoyed the finished product. It's a lot different from discussing career moves with fans or explaining why a much-advertised "major event" did not come to pass. Two different things.

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In any case, I really don't know why Sparky has such a negative opinion of Selena as a reviewer. I'm sure you've found other reviewer's you disagreed with before. Just because she happens to be a porn star as well doesn't make her opinions about porn movies any less valid. If you put all your eggs in her basket and got burned, that's the way it goes. She can't be blamed for that.

As Steph said, you're certainly welcome to post your own review of MSD...

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But mislead she did when she reviewed "Mason's Sexual Disorder," praising it to the heavens and giving it her 5-Star rating. I bought "MSD" and found it to be childish, amateur, and at times offensive.

"childish, amateur and at times offensive"?

Aren't those considered positives? Anyhow, bold statements tend to be taken with more gravity if you support them with something.
i know it's boring to do, but selena somehow took a break from her grueling schedule of lying for enormous personal gain to tell us why she thought what she did. contrived bullshit isn't that easy to hide, and her review, although written as a friend, didn't reek of it to me. questioning integrity is a serious charge, opinion and proof are not interchangeable when you do so.

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Not really on topic for a thread about RLD Gangbangs and a chance for the fans to contribute their ideas for one, but ok...

I always find it humerous how seriously people take their own tastes. Because that is all we are talking about. People like different things- big deal. Get over it.

Describing and reviewing porn is influenced 100% by bias - that bias is what I personally like and dislike. That is the same for every single reviewer and every single fan.

That is why people I respect very much on ADT reviewed this particular movie in opposite ways. Some loved it; some hated it. Btw, one group loved my scene in it (the same group that found the sex in the movie too hard) and the other group hated my scene (because my scene was now too soft).

I would advise that when you read a review of a movie, you really read it. Pay attention to the sex acts and fetishes listed; see how the sex is described. If it doesn't fit your taste - don't buy it just because the reviewer liked it.

A well-written review of MSD, for example, would clearly alert you to the type of movie you can expect.

And, if a reviewer's tastes are different than your own - find another one whose tastes are like yours.

Selena Silver

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Edited by - SelenaSilver on 2/13/2004 10:29:02 AM

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Edited by - SelenaSilver on 2/12/2004 8:51:41 PM

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Let's get back on topic or this thread will 'cease to be.'

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Dion Giarrusso.

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Remember that time I told Brandon to review his own movie when he complained about someone's review? Heh, those were the good old days.

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