After reading through all the messages; I just wanted to say some worlds to defend Rocco side of it.
First, Rocco has a reputation for stuff!
Secondly, if you view any of his recent previous videos; you know "exactly" what you are going to be facing.
Thirldly, Rocco explains the setup and it is shot in sequences which will involve some degreee of pain and punishment - flake or real it just depends on the female's expression in the scene. If she is sort of timid and not showing "heat" in it; Rocco will up the tempo to get it the way he wants it!
Finally, I think he is an artist in the making and creating erotic, passionate and far out scenes - that even the most hardcore voyager will be turn on.
Most of his videos are top in hardcore quality! I have never heard of any viewer of his videos that are aimed at rough and controling sex not be 120% pleased. Of course he has other series that don't have that "hardcore" in it; but that is mostly in his series themes; but his full feature videos are 100% hardcore which is editted to meet U.S. censorship standards. Thus, the U.S. versions are deluted versions and so maybe Roxy Jezel was watching the U.S. version and did not expect what was shot!
I know there was a thread about "hard anal sex" on this board and the Roxy/Rocco scene in this movie came up, and I posted in that thread as well, so I won't repeat my thoughts on the scene. Just thought some would lie to read more on the scene.
Rocco is loosing his MOJO... If you manage på piss off both Janine and Roxy Jezel in just a few months....I think it's time to put the tool to rest. It's really sad to remember Rocco this way. And Tricia, if Rocco easely is bored, then I think we, the viewers are the first to know. I will not pay money for a dvd where Rocco Siffredi is bored. Yaikes.
i finally got to see Ibiza 2 and i thought it was typical Rocco as in any number of his movies...as good as this movie was,i thought the BTS was just as good...i saw something their i never saw before>>> Gina Jolie giving some guy a BJ with some serious deep throat action with rollers in her hair...too bad this Brazilian baddie only made a few movies then diasappeared into sunset... mod: extraneous quote removed - see the Forum Etiquette Edited by - hardware on 6/25/2007 7:07:59 PM
following up on my own post...i like the oddball things that happen in the BTS...a couple that come to mind in addition to girl in hair rollers i posted above... Stepanie Swift eating salad from a buffet table about 5 feet from bed where two people are banging away... Sandra Romain berating some guy because he couldn't perform to her standards and Sativa Rose crying about first anal,both from same Anabolic film... Edited by - hardware on 6/28/2007 12:10:00 PM
If you look at Ibiza 2 behind the scenes you will hear Rocco talking with Roxy, telling her that he didn't know that he was hurting her. In fact in his broken English he said something to the effect, "little more Rocco?, tell me more little, more little." Then goes on to say he's geniunly sorry for her discomfort. My take is that its either one of three things. 1. this is just staged, 2. he actually did know he was hurting her but for the sake of the porn continued, or 3. he actually didn't know he was hurting her and was honest in his apology and concern for her. I think i can see why women do like him( most) he does have a charm that lets him do whatever he wishes. Bust again I don't know what is really going on on the set or behind the scenes.
I feel you. At the same time, Justin Slayer and his crew did the same treatment on a few girls in the "Black Pipe Layers" series. As far as Rocco is concerned, I've seen this scene a long time ago and it was really rough and intense. However, Jewel De'Nyle was able to take it in "Rocco: Animal Trainer 15". If Roxy said she could have handled it, she must have told a lie. I recall reading an article about Leanni Lei being very intimidated by Rocco, saying that he would kill her. I think Jewel was intimidated by Rocco, but got over it when she let him hit it. Anyway, this was another very rough Rocco scene. I saw this flick a long time ago and it was pretty decent. I don't think it could match up to the Rocco flicks that I love, on the other hand. And I doubt that "Rocco Ravishes Ibiza 2" could touch something like "Animal Trainer 15", although it did have a mixture of white & Hispanic babes!
Just saw the scene in question.Listen harder. She says no and yes interchangeably. She's clearly struggling and conflicted in the scene. His tone isn't one of concern. It's more egging her on..."You want me to stop? After all this time you want me to stop?" etc She clearly says "Stop it!" not long after he basically picks her up with both hands wrapped tightly around her neck...he does this suddenly without warning and then continues thrusting as deep and hard as he can. But not before we hear Roxy wailing and saying "ow" along with other untelligible sounds. In fairness, once she said STOP, he stopped...but only for a moment or two...before taking two or three long thrusts and continuing. At this point she's more or less screaming out...at which point Angel Dark looks up with a bit of a surprised look on her face. She's clearly stunned at the end of the scene as Rocco walks out to the balcony hand in hand with both girls. "You okay?....You okay?" he asks. She doesn't respond and can't fake a smile. "Look how tiny she is.", Rocco says. My impression of it is that she felt it was just better to try and soldier on through the scene instead of stopping it. But why does it so often seem Rocco is trying to inflict pain? Roxy is very, very petite. I doubt there's much seperating her body from that of many pre-teens, to be totally blunt. Yet here we have Rocco, a full grown man with a large cock, seemingly trying to ram his dick up her ass as violently as possible. Why!? The whole thing has a bad vibe to it. Edited by - 007 on 10/31/2008 5:51:56 AM Edited by - 007 on 10/31/2008 5:52:26 AM
If stuff like that happens then I think it´s both parties fault. Rocco´s for picking someone for a scene who is clearly not built for that kind of sex, and the girl´s for being in a Rocco flic when it is widely known what kind of movies Rocco makes. Pair up Rocco with a female talent that is just as crazy as he is and you get a great movie, pick a clueless chick and then you get ugly results. It´s the same reason why an amateur boxer shouldn´t step into the ring with a professional heavyweight champion, because you know someone is going to get hurt.
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Posted - Oct 31 2008 : 8:34PM
^ Anybody who's followed Roxy Jezel from her very beginnings would say that she was no shrinking violet when it came to rough scenes. She was one of those women who seemed to thrive on it. This scene is an anomaly where she's concerned. One thing I've noticed about Rocco is that he loves corrupting innocence, and can be very gentle, yet persuasive, when faced with a relative neophyte. Step to him with the attitude that you're up for anything and he'll make you prove it, taking things way beyond sexual and into some dark place that few would be comfortable. Jewel DeNyle found that out, and it really wasn't pretty. Rocco will use Kelly as his template for depravity and drag his partner down that rough road. I think Roxy's bravado found her on that path, and she definitely wasn't ready for it.
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Posted - Nov 1 2008 : 2:29PM
^ I thought Jewel said that was where she drew the line and didn't allow him to take it into an entirely different genre. As if they weren't close enough already.
^Yeah but some people think it ought to be considered more like boxing or K-1 than acting or sex. Not that I'm one of them. I'm just saying, there are people who feel this way. And chicks who want to get punched in the stomach might feel this way too.
I'm not saying it should be illegal, but I would like girls like Sasha to read up on it, so she don't just notice how she's peeing blood... My interest in anatomy goes beyond tits and ass, that's probably why I care about things like this.
I cant see something wrong in this scene too. To blame Rocco for a traditional male strong manner is not right. He is just proud, powerful, playful and positive aggressive. The nature of sexuality is raw/rough and when we fuck we are still animal. Instincts, Passion and body language is the main communication between man and woman - NOT words! And for sure artwork is a deeper issue; performances are different from the norm whichwhy we admire and enjoy it. Especially Rocco is a gifted character and blessed with a big dick. Man/Woman pay attention to him, show respect and honor this massive artist. Under this circumstances he meets Roxy a very cute girl: Its setup already a hot match. And moreover she is challenging him. So she turns up the heat even more. I made the experience myself with girls that they behave mean on purpose. They like nasty. They said that they like it when I get angry. This makes me very focus on them and make me want to fuck hard and punish them. This God given strategy creates a deeper connection between man and woman on a high intensity level. No question Rocco is the champion of sadistic-masochistic-sex. He loves the force of his dick. Then he looks like almighty God. Often pictures have the beauty of a statue. BTW: A female perspective on addiction to Rocco. Worth to read: http://www.raindegrey.com/dirtywords/rocco-siffredi-the-man-the-myth-the-magic/
