When I was a child, bondage and domination got my dick hard. As I became older, I realized this was hard-wired into my sexual being. Bruce Seven was the first porn director I loved, Max Hardcore was the second.
Bruce Seven met an untimely end, maybe it was karma, but I bet he's making asses red up above as I speak. He loved women in a rough-hewed Peckinpah sense. As we all know, a lot of women like this, just not filmed.
Max (Steiner) Hardcore was of the same breed. He worked for National Geographic, and then decided porn was where his heart, and hired dick (Private and Zane) could do him best. Seriously, Max Hardcore with his cowboy hat and 6" dick has done more for American pornography, (and Max's wallet) than any beautiful pictures of scenic Racine, WI or Zambia could hope to.
Why the fuck does Max Hardcore, in his infinite wisdom, deem women vomiting all over the fucking place hot? I love Mr. Hardcore's movies (I brought you a teener, mister!), but goddamn, where is the market for bile?
I think Maxx Hardcore does'nt give an F#@$ about the art of Pornagraphy because hes smart enough to know that it is not an art. Its video material (SMUT) the consumer can whack off to. Its all about casting pretty girls to bring enough consumers that will be interested in your product. If you dont have any niche girls;you gotta resort to a specific theme or concept that seperates you from the rest. A portion of a America loves things that are bile and gross. Isnt this evident with such Reality shows as Fear Factor? Maxx Hardcore in my opinion is one of the fewest geniuses of the Porn industry.He has a gimmick that comes from the heart. This unlike Studios today that judge there product based on what Joe Blow is doing next door. He takes alot of heat and critisism for his content;but hes smart and old enough to not give a F$#%!!He makes Porn from the perspective of how he views Wemon and it comes across real on camera. Come on;the man has put a cigerrette in girls butthole;and made them puff smoke! It takes a sick Mother Fu#@$# to do smething like that;but thats why he's so great.
First of all, there is a market for everything. Secondly, why are people beating up on Max Hardcore, the same people who have no problem with a guy with a 12 inch dick busting up some poor porn girl's asshole?
In fact, I suspect that a lot of porn girls would prefer to be vomited on than to have their ass holes torn to shreds.
The following is just me being my normal, idiosyncratic self. Ignore as you please. :)
Yeah, I don't know. Just because Max makes porn from the "hate perspective" certainly doesn't qualify him as a genius. That's a hoot! :)
I've liked some of Max's early work, back when there was an occasional sense of fun in what he was doing.
Khan is ok... when he matches up with the right girl--but Khan is all about degredation/humiliation, and although I enjoy that fantasy at times, he's on a mission to make it real no matter what inane, and wood-killing thing he can think to ask these girls. I'm not really down with that. With the right girl, his brand of "reality in the porno shop" and psyche-exploration can work, but alot of times I just wish he'd lay off a little bit.
I don't know. I hate being pigeon-holed, just like anyone, but I definitely enjoy the more intense side of things. That should be obvious by now--as should the fact that Joey Silvera is the guy who most consistantly pushes my buttons with his work in this regard.
I guess I like intensity. Dominance. Roughness with a sense of role-playing. Humiliation with a sense of mutual excitement. And above all, the realism of these themes within the bounds of the performer's comfort level. This is the best way I can describe it. I realize that on the surface these things may look contradictory in nature--but sex isn't simple, and the devil is in the details.
In many ways, it's counterproductive and futile to attempt to analize these things. But on the other hand, especially in the case of porn directors, you'll never hit the target if you don't define it. :)
Anyway, some people like Max, and that's ok. I'm just not one of them--at least not anymore. To bring this full circle, that's "what's up with the rough porn" in MY experience. But we each have our own perspectives, and meanings associated with it. That's the beauty of what we as porn audience members bring to the enjoyment, or lack thereof, of what we watch.
mike, that was amazingly well thought out and put. I personally love Max, and I hear all the time "I hate him" "or hes pure evil" etc, but no one has ever taken the time to look at it rationally. kudos!
The puking thing I think will be big soon, it doesn't do it for me, but then again the first time I saw a max movie I could only watch a few seconds at a time and found it appalling, but I kept going back and watching more, now I own dozens!
Max has been around long enough to know trends change and I believe his goal is to shoot tomorrows porn today. when (if) puking is all the rage he's got stock piles.
Hey X-Ray;I understand your view, lets not look at these girls as victims.You have right to feel the way you want to about Maxx;but do you feel the same about the Ladies that are in his Production? I mean;why be mad at Maxx and want to spit in his face when these girls let him do it.Every body is in control of there own Temple;which constitutes there body. If one allows you to invade it willfully;the distain should be on the indivisual that allows this to happen. Isnt it kind of like when a man catches his wife fu#@%$^ another man;and the guy beats the man up;instead of directing his distain at the female that let it happen. Yes;you may view these girls as targets of violence or abuse in sex;that may not fit your fancy.These girls however;are looking at it as a pacheck counting there money;and waiting for the next time Maxx can stick the next cigerrette up her Ass.
I agree woman are responsible for their actions and if they do stuff you find offensive they are just as much to blame as the guy they are with. but tycoon,there are women in the industry that look at this as more than a paycheck. I do not view myself as a target of violence, and I don't sit around counting my money. But I think MeanDr74 was just saying that he doesn't like puke.and thats it the violence thing wasn't really an issue for him. *edited cause I re read and realized you were talking to x ray not meandr! ya you can spit at the girl too (she may like it), in fact there are companies that do just that, they refuse to book a girl if she has worked with max.
to explain myself a little further: i was introduced to maxx with a sample video showing a girl basically fucked to tears (not positively) screaming stop! all the time. as he was through and the girl gave herself up like traumatized he pissed on her with a smile on his face probaly thinking about the great scene he just shot.
i would not wonder if s1 pops up here and tell me this was just an excellent acted performance. but that wouldnt change my mind about him.
as previous posters said, to each his own. i could have used much less drastic speech, but i meant it. the guy can count himself lucky he did not ran across me at any international fair.
i dont know his earlier work or what he did for the porn industry in general, but from what i have seen he hates women.
to explain myself a little further: i was introduced to maxx with a sample video showing a girl basically fucked to tears (not positively) screaming stop! all the time. as he was through and the girl gave herself up like traumatized he pissed on her with a smile on his face probaly thinking about the great scene he just shot.
i would not wonder if s1 pops up here and tell me this was just an excellent acted performance. but that wouldnt change my mind about him.
as previous posters said, to each his own. i could have used much less drastic speech, but i meant it. the guy can count himself lucky he did not ran across me at any international fair.
i dont know his earlier work or what he did for the porn industry in general, but from what i have seen he hates women.
to explain myself a little further: i was introduced to maxx with a sample video showing a girl basically fucked to tears (not positively) screaming stop! all the time. as he was through and the girl gave herself up like traumatized he pissed on her with a smile on his face probaly thinking about the great scene he just shot.
i would not wonder if s1 pops up here and tell me this was just an excellent acted performance. but that wouldnt change my mind about him.
as previous posters said, to each his own. i could have used much less drastic speech, but i meant it. the guy can count himself lucky he did not ran across me at any international fair.
i dont know his earlier work or what he did for the porn industry in general, but from what i have seen he hates women.
to explain myself a little further: i was introduced to maxx with a sample video showing a girl basically fucked to tears (not positively) screaming stop! all the time. as he was through and the girl gave herself up like traumatized he pissed on her with a smile on his face probaly thinking about the great scene he just shot.
i would not wonder if s1 pops up here and tell me this was just an excellent acted performance. but that wouldn't change my mind about him.
as previous posters said, to each his own. i could have used much less drastic speech, but i meant it. the guy can count himself lucky he did not ran across me at any international fair.
i don't know his earlier work or what he did for the porn industry in general, but from what i have seen he hates women.
That's the idea he's trying to get across all right. I'm not sure how much is real and how much is him acting out what his followers want him to do, though.
I am a person who says do what you want as long as I don't have to see it if I don't want to and it hurts no one who doesn't want to be hurt.
So, X-Ray, I have a question. What about spanking, BDSM, caning, smothering, crushing, ws outside of a Max scene? What about choking during sex? I do not intend an argument, I am just curious where your line is. What's "cruel" (for lack of a better term) and what's natural expression. Again, please don't take this as an attack, or desparate defense of Max Hardcore. I was just wondering if you yourself have thought about where your own line is, and why you put it there and not further or closer to whatever ideal it is we're discussing.
same here.Well, i think every actor should perform whatever sexual practice they're comfortable with. As long as it's consentual it's okay, same goes for private life. But you asked specifically for my line. i don't like choking (i mean real choke not just the fake ones) and i'm not into BDSM. Spanking can be fun, especially if you switch from tender to rough back and forth. The last thing i tried out was hot wax games, i like roleplaying and domination games. I'm not into Watersports. I don't like swallowing. I love anal sex, hmmm i think that should do. to be true, i never thought about why i like what i like, i guess that's just me.
so what's cruel? Cruel is - to point at max - if you fuck a girl to tears in a way that is clearly (at least for me) not acted and no way consentual. As a perfomer you have to trust your partner that he/she will actually stop whatever is going on when you get uncomfortable. You can't fake these tears of desperation and pain. maybe the right word would be rape.
If you hate women, alright i can accept that. But if you want to rape them on film to show the world, you better be prepared for society to strike back at you. And than there is no one else to blame.
On the subject of Max Hardcore does anyone know of any good sources for his films, and I mean uncut versions complete with fisting and pissing? I have looked at the official site but the shop link seems vastly overpriced. As he is someone who clearly arouses strong opinions and seems to generate only hate or love with no middle ground, I would love to see what all the fuss is about.
Who buys this Max Hardcore movies now ,with all this pissing and puking shit ? Before some years, i liked his anal and gaping stuff, but now he treat every girl like shit and that's too rough for me .
Jerk off to Max; or not. Hate him; or not. He's obviously got self-hatred personal issues he has found a way to work into a lucrative career - not unlike a few others...
But feeling better about the porn YOU watch as better or more highminded than his, is self-delusional.
Ok, as far as Max, I agree with you. I used to like his stuff until I saw him destroy this little girl who was indeed crying, with her hand behind her on his stomach trying to stop/slow him. He kept saying things like, "You lied to me," implying that she told him that she had done anal before and obviously hadn't. Of course, that's no excuse. So, I no longer enjoy his stuff. He begins (or ends) some of his movies by saying that he loves women and that they like it when it gets rough sometimes, etc. But, if I'm watching a scene that involves penetration of any kind, I want the girl to enjoy it, to love it for real, and the girls he uses rarely look like they're having fun. They usually look like they want to go back home and bake some cookies with mom, or back to math class, or anything but what they're doing.
I like rough sex, the humiliation/domination kinda thing, but I want the girl to really get off on it. The way Max performs/directs I can't see that happening.
I don't like Max mainly because he talks too much during scenes. As for the roughness and making chicks cry, it may not be my cup of tea but some folks like it and if it sells for it he should keep it up. Let's face it, the women in his movies are adults, no matter how young they look and they have a choice whether they want to work with him or not. What I don't understand is why he gets all the blame. No one forces these girls to come to him. Anyway that's my take on the matter..
Joey is the one who slowly turned me on to rougher stuff. His first few Service Animals were a nice introduction, slowly gettin' rougher, which is a lot better than just jumping into a rough DVD like I did with one of first purchases. I bought a Max Hardcore DVD, two actually, and at the time, wasn't ready for it.
But, I think I'll be seeing a Max Hardcore title, or two, soon, and we'll see... but I have gotten up and off at the trailers on his website, so...?
---BIGmike, going and going and going since MCMLXXX---
me and one of my guy friends are always talking about how (for us anyways) porn is a progression, we used to be able to get off to soft core spreads, then we needed penetration spreads, then soft core vids, thrn I went on this anal obsession, I used to masterbate to anal banners on the internet! now its gotta be very intense for me to even bother with it!
I agree Kami, I can't remember the last time I watched a movie that didn't have anal. I know i've seen movies without anal, but I can't remember, and I can't even imagine watching any porn movie without it now!
You're right. But, let's also look at this: it's not the government's fault that nuclear weapons exist, so let's not bother them to make sure the average person can't get their hands on one. That's like the old saying, "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." But you can bet your ass there were less murders when all you could buy was a one shot musket that took more than a minute to reload. What I'm saying, by using this disproportionate example, is that responsibility must be placed somewhere. i agree a person is in charge of his/her own life. But, are the tobacco companies responsible for the people who die of lung cancer? Most intelligent people would say no, but would they keep that opinion if they knew that cigarettes were laced with fiberglass in order to make tiny slices in the lining of the lungs so the nicotine would get into the bloodstream faster? Or if it could be proved that these companies deliberately market to children?
On the whole I agree with you. People are responsible for their conduct - you can't blame the car companies for your speeding ticket - but that includes Max, doesn't it? I don't BLAME him for what he does, I FAULT him.
A contemporary of mine suggested I go check out this forum, because there were often discussion of my movies, style, techniques, and general character. Of course I’m busy, putting out a movie or two every month, and running my websites, but after reading the comments of this thread, I am compelled to respond. Anyone remember Scotty Schwartz?
The comments in this thread take me back several years, to when I was new in the business. In those days of course, we didn’t have the internet, so we wrote letters. We also got together at trade shows and other public events and private meetings, where the very same issues were brought up about my movies. I listened, absorbed it all, and then continued along my way.
Topics of discussion ranged from how cheap and dirty my movies were, to how I degrade women, use too many gynecological close-ups, and so forth. Throat fucking and anal gaping --- Heaven forbid! Fast forward a few years and everyone is doing it. Just ask what things were like to one of my mentors, Henri Pachard.
I’ve made a lot of scenes in my career since 1992, and many girls have worked for me. And in all that time, I can tell you unequivocally, that not one of those girls was forced to stay on my set. I explain up front, that the scenes are not live-action shows, so we always have the opportunity to talk things over as they progress. However, I’ll suffer no foolishness.
Am I demanding? Yes, but I require more from myself than from anyone who has ever worked for me. I demand one-hundred percent effort from everyone in my productions. Anyone who’s ever been in a supervisory position knows that there are always employees who try to get by with the minimum effort.
I’ve always pushed the boundaries of what is commonly acceptable in porn. ‘Tomorrow’s porn today.’ Directing one movie in 1995, I had Jake Jacobs shooting camera for me. I asked Jake Steed to fist-fuck the girl he was working with, who had agreed ahead of time to try it. Jacobs set his camera on the floor and refused to roll. Now days he would probably have no problem with it, but at the time it was a big deal.
People always remember the most outrageous things they have seen or experienced. Were there times when a girl cried on my set? Yes, but who among you could put yourself in her position. Who among you heard me comforting the girl, asking her if she was okay, and would like to continue? And how can you put yourself in her head and know what she was thinking and feeling?
I’ll give you a good example; I shot Anastasia Blue several times, and each time I did, her natural reaction was one of a victim. For reasons few can fathom, she actually liked being treated that way --- and you can see in brief moments as she smiled and looked me in the eyes. It’s hard to understand for most, but I make no judgment on the way she chose to live her life. I simply pushed as hard as I could in my attempt to take those encounters to the limit.
I’ve never been one for violence for its own sake. I rarely if every slap a girl, and if I do it’s never very hard. And I can’t recall ever really choking a girl. I operate on a deeper level of the psych. I position my relationship to my girls with words, not with physical acts. I drive the point home with my cock, and my fist up their pussy, not by choking them into unconsciousness. And has been said, never had one man with so little, left such a lasting imprint.
Do I piss on the girls? Of course I do if they agree. I can tell you it’s make for some fantastic cinema. And some of them actually love it. Some don’t but they do it just the same. But has there been any discussion of how much water I drink before and during a set? Has anyone bothered to ask the girls how it tasted? The member Kami here can bear witness to that.
And how about throat fucking? What is the natural reaction to that? Puking of course follows. I don’t try and change nature; I explore it in ways some will never understand. If the girl I’m working with drinks a lot of water as well, it’s not that unpleasant to any of the participants or the crew. But what incredibly startling video.
I’m not responding to change anyone’s attitude or beliefs. People come into this business from all walks of life, and our audience is the defining measure of our success. But I’m not making porn to make the girls happy, to please all people, or even to sway my critics. I’m making porn for today and tomorrow and beyond.
Because we’re all going to be gone someday - Even this forum will be long gone. But my movies will live on forever. I came here to fulfill a vision, and leave my mark. When digital characters replace us in the future, my legacy will survive. I was a carpenter in my youth, and I built things to last. That’s all any man or woman can do.
I invite any interested persons to got to my website at www.MaxHardcore.com and see for yourself. Take a look at the scenes. Who says the humor is gone? Just look a little deeper and maybe you will discover things about yourself as well.
www.jadedvideo.com has some of Max's special collection. His website has everything, click on the link below, the tour is really wild, never mild and always 100 percent original. Love, Bridgette Kerkove xoxo
I do have to say that I have worked with Max twice. The first time was my third day in LA. second b/g shoot. Anyways he explained to me in painful detail everything that was going to happen ahead of time (he taped it too) he started out slow with me, he never hit me or passed me out. and at one point I was in a fair amount of pain and he asked me if I wanted to stop. I shook my head no and we kept going. He does Drink water non stop and trust me folks that's important! Max has been fair with me in all my dealings with him. But I think the fact that I worked with him twice kinda says that.
Mr. Steiner, welcome to ADT! I hope you enjoy the forum and the eclectic assortment of porn freaks from around the world that gather here on a daily basis. Please feel free to participate as often as you can and let us all know what is going on in your nasty world!
Bridgette, any chance to see Skeeter and Max team up and make a movie together? Would be cool if Max could could perform in movies directed by Skeeter.
It's an honor, to hear from Max Hardcore, one of the true visionaries of porn. I think one of the hottest aspects of Mr. Hardcore's work is his verbal skills in regard to domination and humiliation. When he first started making films, I loved the sex he filmed, but when he started talking rough that put it out of sight. I believe that was the first time I heard the term "fuck toy", a holiday classic.
There is a streak of misogyny that runs through his work, but that's what makes it great. I'm not saying Max hates women. I love his films and I don't hate women. Adults should be able to differentiate between fantasy and reality. Max's films are an outlet for a lot of desires we all have, but come on, have you ever taken home a girl that looks like Vanessa Chase or Jade Marcella and been able to talk her into a little throat fucking. The only reason they are doing this with Max is for the paycheck.
These forums get better and better, last hope that Max becomes a regular as he is truly an original and one of the few visionaries remaining in the industry.
I agree with what Kami said earlier, about the porn you like getting more and more extreme as you become jaded. When I was a young church-going youth, I could have used the TV Guide as porn. But I know I'll never find vomit arousing. Just a strong feeling I have. I realize it's a natural body function during throat fucking Max, but isn't that what editing is all about. I'm just worried if this is the evolution of porn, we're going to be knee deep (no pun intended) in scat movies during the Kerry administration.
i give you a hint, a natural expression for pain is tears. a common used term to draw attention to your situation is "STOP!"
I’m not responding to change anyone’s attitude or beliefs either. My future shines so bright, i gotta wear shades.
"I don’t try and change nature; I explore it in ways some will never understand" - Max Hardcore (yep, i never understood why the fly could not fly anymore after i ripped her wings) -=Heartless Bitches International=-
That willingness to look the other way and allow AB to express her desperate sexuality isn't a get out of jail card . It's just an abrogation of personal responsibility , and it seems from the very careful wording of your statement that you were in fact well aware that she could be experiencing serious psychological problems . The fact that you chose to ignore it and use her for your own profit is ( IMO ) wrong .Doesn't that statement free you of any responsibility towards any other individual ? We all learn to appreciate the warning signs of distress and pain from an early age , first in ourselves , and then through that , in others . The acceptance ( and even in some cases desire )of some women to play these degraded roles isn't a mark of acceptability . " Hey she enjoys it , she gets off on it ! " Yeah of course there are women who act in these ways in their personal lives , just as there are women who self-mutilate and do many other questionable things . A woman's sexual desires can be just as destructive as a man's , both to herself and others . Ahhhhhhh , sorry , got stuck in full on lecture mode there for a second !
The point I'm trying to make is that there is a difference between role play and acting out . When I've seen the desperation shining behind some of these women's eyes it seems likely to me which side their sexual antics belong on . Of course the end judgment has to be down to the individual conscience of the viewer .
Mr. Hardcore, I'm glad to see you and to hear your words. I just wanted to say that you're right - none of us are there. No one can know what it's like to be on set and opposite you in a scene unless they've been there. I can appreciate that.
Personally, my statements weren't intended to be the morals/ethics of society. I was simply trying to explain my own opinion. Yes, the normal response to pain is tears. I understand that. But, for me, that doesn't do it. My personal preference does not include pain. I know that may seem strange if you look at some of my other posts because I've said that I enjoy humiliation/domination. In fact, I DO like to see throat fucking, the messier the better. I would just rather not see pain. That's me. Obviously pain is popular. Look at all the caning, spanking, SM videos out there. The market does exist.
Further, I never once said, nor do I believe that you FORCE anyone to do anything. And if you look at the beginning of the thread I said that I feel that whatever people want to do is ok with me as long as I don't have to see it if I don't want to and it doesn't hurt anyone that doesn't WANT to be hurt.
I guess what this amounts to is that I was saying I don't watch your movies any more because of what I often see on the girls' faces. That's all. As I said before, I don't BLAME you for what's in your movies because blame implies you did something wrong, either morally, ethically, or even legally. Fault does not. Fault is personality causing error in judgment. And while you don't see error on your part, I do. It's a matter of taste, preference. I hold no ill will towards you as a human being. I hope you see that.
Max, first let me say welcum to the forum, and add, I know you're busy, but try not to be a stranger around here.
I know I can't say I'm a fan of yours, but, I have checked out the trailers on your website, and, I can't believe I am saying this, but I enjoyed them.
---BIGmike, going and going and going since MCMLXXX---
I personally have no problem with puking and pissing. Not my cup of tea, but, if it's consensual, whatever turns your crank.
The problem with Max Hardcore's stuff is another one: it's boring and without any innovation. I mean how many tapes with the same old same old stuff can you possibly consume? It's the same across different genres of porn: BJ Adventures of Dr. Fellatio was innovative at the beginning, but the stuff quickly became repetitive after tape 3.
The revolutionary idea that MH brought to porn was the idea of having a guy who isn't very attractive, has a small dick, is rough and rude, ass-, mouth-, and throat-fuck young innocent girls, picked up off the street. I remember the early installments, for example, the one with Tyfanny Mynx: you watched the tape and enjoyed this young, pretty girl (the kind who would never ever be seen with guys like Max) being brutalized and assfucked.
Every average dude has said to himself: man, I would love to fuck that pretty chick until she can't walk for a week.
Max Hardcore showed that fantasy on tape. Unfortunately, times have passed him by, and there is really nothing innovative anymore about his work.
I can't think of more fearful and fearless combination in the porn game, than Max Hardcore and Skeeter Kerkove , merging and blending their kind of porn together.
I wish them both well; because if I see something they've done that I think I can do as well -- if not better, I'm going to do it.
Thank you Henri. As everyone should know, you're one of the true heros of our business. You indeed have your championship rings. I learned more from you and Bobby Hollander in the first few years in the industry than I've learned in the last ten. Also, your insightful writing is amazing. Who says you lose your memory after 100? Keep it up!
To address some of the comments here about the girls crying, not wanting to do it, and all that stuff. I say again, you weren't here, and you have no idea what was going on. It's very easy to write this or that, (unless you've got the intelect of say a TonyT), but try creating some cutting edge movies for a change, and see what the challenges really are.
Should anyone think that time may have passed me by, they need only to cut and past the clip below of our latest adventures in Brazil from Planet Max 17. We'll see you all, around the world. Enjoy!
I always find myself "in agreeance" with you Mike, but that is so true. The hottest scenes make me pop before the cocksucking even gets going ...
Of course, I am a mile behind on this thread. Yeah, I've enjoyed some clips from max's site, but more than half of it is a huge turnoff. Was shocked/awed by the early stuff, "The Adventures of ..." but I can't quite get with the current version of the headtrip and find most of the girls to be too anorexic/fake underage jailbait/scrawny. I'll be getting whatever movies Kami is in, because she's a real woman and I wanna see her tangle with everything Max dishes out.
I mean, Rocco copped a lot of his shit off of Max, but honestly it's more fun to watch Rocco. The puking and speculum and spit-blanketed faces are not erotic to me at all. Once in a while, he nails a girl I find really hot and then it kicks ass, but the batting average is pretty low for my tastes. But I'll go watch a million Joey Silvera movies, and the technique is not dissimilar. I just find Joey fun to watch and Max rather grim and heartless. An "act" I know, but it's not my thing.
Personally, I like rough sex. I think it can be a display of passion. And when I see it on film, if the girl isn't into it(she's crying, displaying extreme discomfort- a little discomfort is OK), it doesn't turn me on.
Here's an example: Rocco: Animal Trainer 4. There's a scene with Rocco and two girls(a blonde and a brunette). They are on a stage or ring surrounded by guys on the outside. Fast forward to felatio. The girls are taking turns blowing Rocco but the Blonde starts to get the short end, well... of the stick. Rocco begins to force her all the way down on his cock by holding the back of her head. She can't breath, eyes tear up, etc. I was disturbed watching this scene. My sense that she wasn't enjoying it was confirmed at the end of the scene. You could tell she was upset. She could barely smile and it looked like the other girl was aware she wasn't doing well. Mind you, I am a Rocco fan. But this isn't the type of thing I want to see when watching a porno. I have watched many other Rocco films and have not come across a similar scene, which I'm glad about.
Nacho is a rather [or can be] aggressive performer. I think he is one of the best performers out there and his rough play makes him that. I've heard from many porn girls that he is the best male performer they have done a scene with and it shows.
I don't care for Max's stuff and I think it's a niche. The puking thing will never be any trend in porn. It's gross. That's like watching Fear Factor, you ever jerk off to that???
I think that is a fantastic and hot scene... i love the teary mascara eyed thing. I don't think this is any different from the rough throat fucking in FASHIONISTAS or ROCCO'S WAY TO LOVE...
Posted - Mar 4 2004 : 5:59AM
