-max hardcore and rocco is good. -rough sex 1 and 2 is good, although you cand "buy" it anymore. -gag factor/slap happy/throat gaggers is cool -theres a new title called "tough love" coming out soon, hell yeah! -forced entry is most likely the best, and I still want to buy it but I dont want to be put on some spooky govt listing (EA offices were raided and their records were taken including who bought what) :(
...and how does that bring anything to the conversation except flame bait?
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scrotencemalone Deactivated User
167 Posts 12/03
Posted - Jan 10 2004 : 11:42AM
I see nothing wrong with rough sex videos as long as the girls state they are perfectly willing to do these scenes. From a feminist perspective, these women have a right to make and be in these scenes.
Rape scenes on the other hand are morally wrong because it basically depects non-consentual sex, but the paradox is that if the women want to do these scenes they should be able to. I personally don't think the porn industry requires rape scenes. I think even things like consentual bestiality scenes are better because it doesn't appear that these women are being forced to do things. I suppose if you had a rape scene and the woman said before hand that it was role play and she wanted to do it, then it would be okay but not without it.
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scrotencemalone Deactivated User
167 Posts 12/03
Posted - Jan 10 2004 : 11:48AM
best rough sex scene (got a little off topic) slap happy the entire series (I hear 4 is supposed to be extra rough, but it's not on dvd) Gag factor 2 scene with sophie evans is pretty sweet. Stephanie swift's scene in House That Black Built
I just wondered specifically why you feel this is important. If I watch a mainstram movie I don't expect the actors to come on beforehand and announce that they are quite happy to pretend to be raped/stabbed/shot. I can understand why porn producers might want to cover themselves with little 'pieces to camera' in controversial scenes but that is a different issue; what I'm asking is why you would not feel it was okay if porn films mirrored their mainstream counterparts?
SNP.
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scrotencemalone Deactivated User
167 Posts 12/03
Posted - Jan 10 2004 : 1:10PM
Because the way in which people "view" porn films is not the same in the way people view mainstream film. I would say it's not psychologically healthy to masturbate to rape pornography because the viewer makes a mental connection to sexual stimulation and a rape scene where it is not expressed that it is fake. Kind of like those "no animals were harmed in the making of this movie" disclaimers at the end of all movies
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scrotencemalone Deactivated User
167 Posts 12/03
Posted - Jan 10 2004 : 1:11PM
If the viewer is told it is fake, at least then it could be qualified as role-play
Unless it is a snuff film, I'm sure it is safe to assume it is not real and it is role playing.
I agree, morals do not belong in porn. When you look at box cover you can generally tell what kind of movie it is. I don't understand why people just can't put the box down and move along their merry way. Instead, they pick it up, put it down and then go to FCC and cry their eyes out. This is America, founded on freedom and defended everyday for freedom. If you don't like it, get over it and move.
The reason rape without the appearance of role play is wrong is because rape itself is wrong. Unlike any other form of violence, you can never say "they made me do it" like other forms of self defense. To say movies promote violence is generally wrong because most action movies promote self defense or the defense of others. I don't object to movies like Slap Happy when the girls say they want rough stuff to happen to them because the picture is telling me this is a CONSENTUAL act. Rape movies without some sort of disclaimer leave out the concrete fact (I don't like to assume when it comes to a topic as serious as rape) that it is a concentual piece you are viewing and leaves it open to the viewer. For chirst's sake, we live in a world where people believe wrestling is REAL. Sometimes pornography gives us too much ambiguity about what the porn stars agreed to do and what they ended up doing without agreeing to it before hand. (i.e. shay sights scene in gag factor 5) Also, I imagine a person who really wants to view a rape movie has never been raped before, and I suggest to anyone who REALLY wants to view a rape movie to down about 10-15 shots of their favorite alcohol at a really seedy gay bar or if you're a woman any bar and see how you feel after that.
IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02
Posted - Jan 11 2004 : 12:21PM
There is some very funny shit in this thread. If I was in a bad mood, I would even persue some of them a little bit further.
Sorry, I have no on-topic recommandations at this point. Just wanted to share that I have picked up some very silly quotes here. Keep up the good work.
skronker said: "The Jayna Oso scene I can't even get through without, ahem, becoming a part of the scene."
hardware puts on moderator hat: Contrary opinions are generally welcome in this forum, as long as they aren't reduced to fanaticism. You may not wish to hear (read) them, Alex, but kindly refrain from dictating what people can and can't say on the boards.
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AlexPanzer Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 12 2004 : 11:19PM
Yeah I agree, I was just meaning that there are some people here that might be offended or think that rough movies are wrong, and I think that they arent, and those people might start saying that the movies are wrong.
Yep... and as long as no one gets personal or uselessly repetitive, they can say those movies are wrong all they like, just as you're free to disagree with them. That's the very point Hardware was trying to make. :)
We can already see that some people think rough-sex movies are wrong. As I said, they are welcome to express their opinions. I suggest that if you can't have a meaningful discussion with them on the subject then you shouldn't respond to their posts.
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Jul 17 2014 : 4:28PM
^I definitely was a big fan of PSP and am still angry at Brazzers' decision to not only discontinue it, which would have been bad enough, but remove all of its scenes. I think that I understand why they made that decision, but that doesn't make it any less aggravating to me as a member.
Sometimes, not everything is Black and White. 127 Posts 5/14
Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 2:11PM
I really feel for the the members, I hear the site is constantly plagued by problems, try getting the dvd of PSP. Try Fuck slaves as well, like to hear your opinion on it.
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 2:37PM
^It's been some time since I've watched any of the Fuck Slaves scenes. I should be making better use of my Evil Angel membership! It's too bad that the series was discontinued, but I'm glad Evil Angel didn't do anything so drastic as Brazzers. Luckily I still have quite a few PSP scenes in my possession, but as I mentioned in a previous thread Brazzers has quietly removed numerous other rough sex scenes as well. I'll continue to be a member as long as my favorite pornstars continue to shoot for them, but I'm definitely not getting everything that I signed up for.
I always think this about 'rough' porn: don't the women who agree to do it feel any sense of responsibility towards other women (outside of porn) who might find themselves on the receiving end of some very unpleasant treatment at the hands of men who've been jerking off to these fantasy 'rape' videos? I'm not taking a moral stance here because I'm a fan of rough porn myself - but we all know there are plenty of dickheads out there who can't differentiate between fantasy and reality. I don't think the analogy with horror films ("Why don't we ban them to prevent one or two psychos committing murder?") is comparable. A horror film is clearly make-believe to all but the biggest fruit loop. 'Rape' porn is much more insidious, blurring the line between what might and might not be 'real'. Paradoxically, I enjoy this kind of stuff but I'd be lying if I said I don't also find its existence somewhat troubling.
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 4:26PM
^You're assuming that adult males who enjoy rough porn also end up instigating rough sex in the bedroom, when instead what seems to be the problem are minors who spend their adolescent years illegally watching rough porn and eventually decide to act out what they've seen. I'm just speculating of course, but if I'm correct, then it's tube and torrent sites, not pornstars, who should take responsibility.
Where are the parents in all of this? Isn't it their responsibility to teach their children to respect other people? Shouldn't our schools be reinforcing that lesson?
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 4:56PM
^I'd like to think that with the media publicization of high school and college rapes in the past few years parents and schools will become more proactive in a healthy way, but since there is still a widespread cultural unwillingness to address youth sexuality in an open and honest manner I'm not getting my hopes up. The result is that many young people will continue to receive most of their sex "education" from porn with whatever ramifications that might have for their sexual development.
Sometimes, not everything is Black and White. 127 Posts 5/14
Posted - Oct 18 2014 : 3:51PM
So guys, this thread hasnt been active for a while. Would it be cool to if we turn it into a rough sex scene update thread. A thread that gets updated with any newly released rough sex scenes, something like The ultimate squirting thread. I find it difficult to find rough content on a consistent basis and this thread is aptly named already. So i would appreciate some updates, once again if its not against the rules, thanks. I shall start things off. Skin Diamond & Tommy Pistol- Fucked & Bound
Sometimes, not everything is Black and White. 127 Posts 5/14
Posted - Oct 21 2014 : 5:52PM
Yeah but its not the same as it used to be, the hot and mean scenes arent even that rough anymore. But thanks for the reccomendation brah, keep them cumming
Sometimes, not everything is Black and White. 127 Posts 5/14
Posted - Oct 26 2014 : 4:00PM
What do you guys think of the cumextreme scenes too rough or just right? I checked out the Billie Jo scene and she seemed to be in some serious pain. The Julie de Lucia one is also intense?
Posted - Jan 9 2004 : 1:05PM
