Hi there! I've recently came across a few rough sex movies where girls are beaten hard and don't seem to really enjoy what is happening (Or at least they pretend quite well not to be enjoying what's happening) . The best examples I've seen are the following: Rough Sex 2 (almost all scenes) Teen Line - The Blue Room I Wanna Get Face Fucked/Un-natural Sex 12 with Melissa Lauren are also pretty good, though she says at the end it wasn't hard enough, tears in her eyes make it look great anyway. If you know any similar stuff with hard breast/face slapping/porn stars not enjoying what's happening/crying etc, I'd very much appreciate if you could tell the movie names. Thanks a lot in advance! other movies mentioned in this thread (updates): -meatholes -donkey punch -Khan Tusion movies (apart from Rough Sex 2) -Max Hardcore movies Edited by - stalker199 on Apr 27 2011
I've never understood why anybody would want to watch a sex scene where the girl is not enjoying it. It is fucked up. The whole point of porn is that the girl is loving the sex. That's not to say I don't like rough sex, I love it, but the girl GETTING OFF on rough treatment is what makes it hot. Not a fan of abuse...
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stalker199 Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 25 2011 : 2:40PM
well such movies are of course not for everyone. and when I saw it first time (it was rough sex 2) i even got angry at the black guy. But after more and more porn became rough, i got used to it, and when i saw that scene again i quite liked it. as far as there's no blood/it's not snuff porn/some other illegal stuff, it'ok since it's a matter of personal taste, and tastes differ. if you don't like it, it doesn't mean someone else won't Edited by - stalker199 on 4/25/2011 2:41:11 PM
I know, I just think it is pretty fucked up to get off on somebody being mistreated. Sex is about enjoyment. If it's your thing then hey, I'm not one to judge, just saying I've never understood it. And again, there's a big difference between rough/hard sex and sex where the girl isn't enjoying it. The latter kind of implies a rape fantasy.
There is something about this discussion that I find to be wrong. I would boycott any company that banked on showing scenes where the woman is being abused and is crying and not enjoying it. That is basically rape with pre-consent as a legal cover. It is totally fucked up, and it's a major problem in porn. I'm all for rough, nasty, violent sex, but the minute the woman is making it obvious that is hating it and wants it to stop; I am disturbed and feel sick to my stomach.
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Posted - Apr 25 2011 : 11:41PM
I hate this kind of porn, but the industry caters to it. There are many websites like MeatHoles and Facial Abuse that do this sort of thing. That jailbird Max Hardcore has made a career of it
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Posted - Apr 26 2011 : 3:13PM
Can anybody post something relevant at least? Guys it's not a topic to discuss who likes this or who doesn't. There're many things in life which one can enjoy when the other doesn't. Men buy sex from prostitutes from time to time. And often prostitutes don't like sex at all, but still do it because they need money. And it's legal in certain countries like Netherlands. So making porno when the woman doesn't enjoy sex is absolutely legal and credible. Because porn stars are paid for it, and even if they don't like it they have to accept it, and if it was too rough they won't play in such scenes again. If you don't like it then just don't waste your time posting here. As there are people who like it, and they will seek such movies. And frankly it's none of your business if you don't like it, we don't care. And, after all, there're much worse things in porn such as someone eating shit or piss, etc, and yet nobody says they should be forbidden. If you want to forbid something, target such movies in the first place Edited by - stalker199 on 4/26/2011 3:15:35 PM
how is eating shit or piss and enjoying it worse than being beaten and not enjoying it?
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Posted - Apr 26 2011 : 4:04PM
i'm no longer gonna answer useless posts in this thread. if you don't understand the idea, simply don't post here
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Posted - Apr 26 2011 : 4:37PM
just discovered another excellent movie like that - "Donkey Punch" one can get videos here: [mod edit: link removed. no tube sites] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 4/26/2011 7:31:48 PM
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Posted - Apr 26 2011 : 6:39PM
though this one is even too much for me. as painful slapping is ok, but beating with a fist is a bit too much. some ppl may like it though, as again, tastes differ
Rather than provide my opinion about you, I'll quote you so that maybe you'll reread what you wrote and you'll get a glimpse of the kind of person you really are.
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Posted - Apr 26 2011 : 10:56PM
I did. Go subscribe to those websites Meat Holes or Facial Abuse. Go buy some Max Hardcore DVDs. They are full of the abuse you seem to crave. The Meat Holes scenes are on DVD as well. Excalibur Films link There is a Meat Holes scene with Crystal Ray where she genuinely cries in regret at the end. I have heard there is a Meat Holes scene with Ashley Blue where she is choked so hard she blacks out. Also she breaks down in sobs during the scene. In interviews years later Ashley said it was the rock-bottom worst scene of her life and she was genuinely afraid she was going to be murdered on the set. That is what you want, isn't it? Regret? Fear? Humiliation? Real pain and suffering? Real women being hurt and hating sex and hating themselves. Yeah that's great.
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Posted - Apr 26 2011 : 10:59PM
This thread is making me feel bad
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Posted - Apr 26 2011 : 11:14PM
Would you also believe her if she told you that she had a bridge in Brooklyn she wanted to sell to you?
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Posted - Apr 26 2011 : 11:38PM
Kimberly Kane said something similar. Interview linkThere are many other female performers who have said similar things about Khan Tusion and Meat Holes. Do you think they are all lying? Or is it more likely he really is an abusive person who makes abusive porn for people who get off on abuse.
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Posted - Apr 26 2011 : 11:43PM
Don't bother engaging with realtip, he lives in his own little world.
Edited by - BlackSix on 4/26/2011 11:44:00 PM
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If he does, then he's not the only one. From the same interview... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Danny: Have you ever felt like you were degrading another performer? Kimberly: Absolutely. I love degrading women. But only if she doesn't get all fuckin' bitchy about it. For instance, I've done these scenes called “violations.” And it's basically an all-girl gang rape on one girl. And when I say gang rape, I mean it. It's terrible. Terrible. It's rough, and it's horrible, and she always breaks down, and she always cries. And you're just like, “Oh god, come on already.” And I mean, yeah, whatever. Danny: Have you ever been “violated” before? Kimberly: No. They've wanted me to be violated before. I'm not tough enough. I can dish it out but I can't take it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- After reading that, it's hard to buy into the whole victimized girl role. She explicitly uses the word "rape" to describe scenes she enjoys doing. Oh, but I forgot, she's only talking about G/G scenes. So it's OK. Imagine if she were a man saying that she enjoys filming scenes with girls being "raped" by men. There would be so much controversy that the interview may never have been released. Thus, the double standards of porn.
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Posted - Apr 27 2011 : 12:27AM
then just don't post here. again if you don't like it, it's none of your business. thanks for the information on the movies btw, at least one useful post here
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Posted - Apr 27 2011 : 12:41AM
Ashley Blue was known for being very abusive in her Girlvert series too. It has long been known that victims of abuse are the most likely to become abusers. That does not excuse anyone. It also does not make Khan Tusion any less repugnant to me. That is a moral equivalency argument and it is faulty There is a double standard. There should be. There is a different power dynamic in g/g than b/g. Porn is a male-dominated industry. It is not an even playing field and never has been. Men hold the power and the profit in porn. Men use women in porn. Men are much more capable of physically injuring a woman. That is why men have to be more responsible Ask yourself why there is no well known DVD series where a female porn producer is choking men unconscious and making them sob and hate their lives. Why is there no thread asking for rough sex movies where male stars are beaten hard and don't seem to really enjoy what is happening. Tears in his eyes would make it look great.
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Posted - Apr 27 2011 : 1:01AM
i don't give a fuck if someone produces movies where males are abused by females. there's such movie series btw, and i'll post its name here once i remember it the fact that males are physically more strong than females doesn't mean that they have to be responsive. maybe in life they have, but in porn everyone is paid money. and if women are paid money to be beaten, then it's ok. if they didn't accept it they wouldn't play in such scenes. it's all voluntary. and they don't have to be enjoying what they do. again when you fuck a prostitute she mostly won't enjoy it (taking into account you could be her number 5 or 10 that day). still she does it. and it's legal in many countries. and as porn with violence i'm talking about is complete legal, please don't bother posting your thoughts on morality in this thread, it's a wrong place for it. instead please give other good examples that you know, apart from meatholes and max hardcore stuff. would be much appreciated Edited by - stalker199 on 4/27/2011 1:08:21 AM
Is it? How many habitual offenders are you aware of that it makes it a major problem in porn? I've seen questionable consent a few times. I know there are a few people who go out of their way to make at least the appearance of it seem real. I don't see it all the time and it doesn't seem like a major problem until there's an isolated case that is being discussed on a forum or something and people just lose their damn minds and blow it out of all reasonable proportion.
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Posted - Apr 27 2011 : 1:08AM
There is no difference, and it is hypocritical to say that there is. We have an occurrence here where a girl says that she enjoys making other girls "break down" and "cry" in porn scenes. She doesn't say that it's only fake crying that's all merely a performance for the scene. In fact, she seems to be saying that the reactions are all authentic. Using her words, "And when I say gang rape, I mean it. It's terrible. Terrible. It's rough, and it's horrible, and she always breaks down, and she always cries." Yet, if a male porn viewer says that he enjoys seeing the same things in straight porn movies, he gets criticized. How is one different from the other? If one is acceptable, then both are acceptable.This is called femdom. There are indeed plenty of movies, scenes, and websites totally dedicatred to this niche, and they don't draw anywhere near the amount of controversy as porn that shows the roles of the sexes reversed. Also, if you look around here, I don't doubt that you will find threads where people ask for scenes like this. I know I've seen atleast one such thread before. Again, if this is OK, then why shouldn't it be OK the other way around?
Meatholes and Facial Abuse are the only two that come to mind when I'm thinking about it. And Meatholes is an old one. Are they even still online? There might be some obscure ones I don't know about but I wouldn't say there are many of them.
It's funny how that works, isn't it? Most people don't. There's lots of "ballbusting" content (though granted it's fringe stuff) and as far as I know there isn't a single thread on ADT anywhere about those terrible women who take advantage of those poor, misguided souls who had such bad childhoods that they let mean old women torture their nads. Not a single thread. Not one person has ever suggested these guys don't know what's up or what they're getting into or that there might be more than meets the eye. Edited by - randomprecision on 4/27/2011 1:16:52 AM
Another one of these freaking threads about seeing women in actual distress. Talk about a bad boob job and they'll shut it down. Talk about how much you enjoyed that scene where the girl was actually in distress and it can run forever. WTF!?!
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Posted - Apr 27 2011 : 1:20AM
exactly. i'm fucking bored with women complaining about their rights. just fuck off and go to some other thread/forum if you feel like doing it. this topic is a wrong place for that
Why is it that you only seem to show up on these threads? I don't think I've ever seen you in a thread about anything else. Did you know that every time you post in a thread you don't like it keeps it near the top that much longer?
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Posted - Apr 27 2011 : 4:52AM
Dark Places posts in other threads, I know he doesn't like Von Swine for example and likes bush on women. We're all the usual suspects here, except for the sociopath OP.
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Posted - Apr 27 2011 : 6:52PM
^Of course, Ashley Blue and Kimberly Kane must also be sociopaths, since they have admitted to enjoying the same types of movies.
Sigh. I know. It's like they say, "Don't wrestle with a pig. The pig likes it and all you get is dirty." I am done pig wrestling, but I do think we should be something done about people who want to see women legitimately hurt and suffering and not in a consensual S/M manner. It's all kinds of fucked up to say it's disrespectful to the performers who come here to criticize bad plastic surgery, but not to talk about that time you jerked off to their legitimate and unwanted pain. It supports every cliche about people who like porn secretly hating women.
I absolutely could not agree with that sentiment more. I don't hate women, and that's why I cannot justify ever wanting to see them in pain and knowing it. I like porn because I like sex, and I like to look at beautiful, sexy women. Nothing wrong with that; nor is there anything wrong with wanting to see them engaging in rough, nasty sex as long as we understand that nobody is being mean to her. Once we are aware that she is suffering, we are contributing to it. Not right on any level.
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Posted - Apr 28 2011 : 2:37AM
I'm not referring to his taste for rough sex movies and you know it. I'm talking about his statements about women's rights and telling everyone to fuck off.
Agreed. I understand rough, domination, all of that, but this thread is about recommending the stuff making women get out of porn as fast as possible. Lack of respect make new girls flee the business, and I don't see why this works in any real porn fan's favour...
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