I find most of the scenes by the black pornstars are pretty boring and not really hardcore or rough. I am trying to find out the performers who are really hard on the girls.
I would say Joachim Kessef is the most unintentionally rough, and not in a good way. The best in my opinion is Rico Strong. While at times the girl clearly can't handle the dick, most of the time he strikes a good balance. He brutalizes a lot of cute newbies in "My First Big Black Dick" #1-3.
The roughest used to be Tony Eveready. He seemed like a dirtbag but I liked his style. Unfortunately, most black performers either lack libido (Mandingo,Jack Napier) or run their mouths the ENTIRE scene (Wesley Pipes, Tone Capone). Then you have Lex Steele in a category of his own where he screams like a cat being raped.
LOL Yeah I've noticed this too, which is kind of ironic since I've been told that black men are pretty aggressive. But the Black Pipelayers series produced by Justin Slayer (filmed with mostly Euro-girls) is pretty aggressive. Its only IR, can't think of a black on black scene really that rough right now.
Jean-Claude Batiste (aka Dexter Drizzle) is pretty rough on his white girls, including choking. I approve of the rough sex, but not the choking. Edited by - smutlover65 on 5/28/2011 3:10:02 PM
You can't be rough with a 12" or !3" long dick it will go beyond roughness it hurts, besides in some petite and slim girls it could push too hard on inner organs. Richard Mann though if not rough surely goes strong in several occasions , In Manaconda he gave hard times to Sophia while fucking her up her ass , consider that she is one of the very few able to take Mandingo balls deep up the ass as she did in Baker's Dozen 1, in there Mandingo goes all the way and thrust her strongly she didn't complain , seemed very comfortable it wasn't the case with Mann , he did'n hurt her but she seemed at her limit
Unfortunately, most black performers either lack libido (Mandingo,Jack Napier) or run their mouths the ENTIRE scene (Wesley Pipes, Tone Capone). Then you have Lex Steele in a category of his own where he screams like a cat being raped.>> Well done
MICHAEL CHAPMAN IS THE HARDEST BLACK MALE PORN STAR EVER LIVED!!! Watch him rip the hell out of these White girls in... "Rocco: Top of the World" "The Dark Side of Rocco" "Who Fucked Rocco?" (He literally destroys Katsumi)
@Pornication: And what about white male performers? where do i begin at what they lack?? First off they all fuck like rabbits, or dogs they hop on and that's that! At least a black man, once he's in it, he knows how to please!! How can you state that most black performers "lack libido" or "run their mouths"? Compared to their white counterparts, from what i've seen, they fuck FAR better than "most" white actors i've seen. Black men have a rhythm that white men will never have, i guess that's why your women are secretly obsessed w/black men or you (the passive white husband) sit back and watch/allow your white wives to be "cuckolded" by a black bull!! (It's just insane!)
Michael Chapman is the roughest - roughest of the old school of Black Pipelayers was Tony Everready...the girls would pinch him so much they left bruises Don "Asianman" Fernando Asian X Club Edited by - Don Fernando on 5/28/2011 9:50:07 PM
^ LOL! My white women don't even have black friends let alone want to sleep with one. But then again I'm not white either so I guess that imaginary rhythem is good on my end.
there are scenes with Lee Bang that are very rough, for example with bobbi starr, amber rayne and jessica bangkok Edited by - leatherface on 5/29/2011 9:31:21 AM
Yeah, Yahshua is very active in his scenes, rough in a sense; however, if you're looking for uncomfortable roughness, he's not your guy...similarly with Boz Pipes is rough with his mouth, lol. Guys like Slayer are too smooth to be rough. Edited by - sonofbones on 5/30/2011 4:45:27 PM
There's this guy called Lorenzo who does BBW women. I can't find any info of him right now but he got his own DVD line. He fucks the girls real hard and in funny positions.
I'm surprised no one mention Shane Diesel,he spits on them,well they all do.
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Posted - Jun 3 2011 : 11:07PM
most definetly Lorenzo Loretto...this guy is a champ,,,everyone should chek him out DearLorenzo.com !!!
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Posted - Jun 4 2011 : 5:59AM
There is definitely a line that's been drawn. I'm not sure if it's the Black performers,or White performers drawing it. Sasha Grey,Belladonna,Kayla Marie and some others have always been willing to go very hard no matter who their partners. Too many other actresses seem to have some sort of floating force field when it comes to working with Black performers. Other than the holes being penetrated it seems like they are never up for much more and often even mail that in. We need some actresses to really step up and give the Black talent same leeway to push their limits as all other talent. On another note I will say eliminating all the hair pulling,spitting ect really puts the performers in a space where the ACTUAL SEX speaks for itself. Justin Slayer/and many of the girls in the 'Just Fuckin series proved that. Some masterpiece scenes there. I sometimes wonder if performers like Rocco S. and a few other notoriously aggressive ones can even keep it up,them or their audience unless a female is being snatched around,abused and handled like a living blow up doll. Taking it to an extreme level is fine at times but when it's a performers only schtick I wonder if mistreating females is the only way they can achieve erection and sexual satisfaction?
Looks rough, sure, but he's such a skinny little wuss... the male performer has to be at least somewhat formidable to look at, no? And most of the girls he has on the site are ugly and/or grossly overweight, and not in a good way. When I look for rough stuff, I want an in-shape guy and a good looking woman; you can't just grab anyone you can get and do a scene. But he doesn't seem to discriminate at all. I'm not trolling; go to the site and tell me I'm lying.
Seems like a warped definition of "rough stuff" just to throw in an insult. If BBW is not your preference then OK, but I think Lorenzo is intentionally going for the BBW niche.
I'm sorry if you felt I was trying to insult anyone. I wasn't. Trust me, I dig a BBW as much as anyone else. My objection was that he doesn't seem to try to find pretty women at all. This in contrast to, say, John Stagliano who once said he delayed in publishing pics of Mayara Rodrigues because he didn't have any that were "good enough". Mayara Frickin' Rodrigues. Not good enough. Now *that* is a person who cares about his content. Lorenzo, on the other hand, seems to put up whatever and whomever he can, and doesn't seem to think twice or even once about quality. I didn't look in every cranny, but I didn't see a single woman that I cared to see having sex. He appears to be down south, and he couldn't find a pretty black BBW? That means he's not even trying to. In any case, sorry if you felt my comment was unhelpful.
No not really. I mean it's better to have skinny girls like him instead of big guys like Nat Turner for example because they once they start fucking they block every part of the girl with their own body. With guys like Lorenzo you can so at least more of the girl.
I have to admit the girls in his movies are not the best ones. That's why it would have been cool if he would be in regular movies for well known companies like WCP, Evasive of JSI for example.
I would say Wesley Snipes or Tony Everready are pretty rough.
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Posted - Jun 6 2011 : 4:13PM
LOL @ the subliminal message that OP wanted to portray in this topic. If black men were really rough in videos that would be the point of contention, wouldn't it? Then the thread would be 'Any videos where black men aren't rough?'. Face it, this was a black men bitch fest, no more no less. Not sure why it's allowed.
Relax, skippy. There are many white performers I don't like, but the points I raised about black performers in general are true. Many of them don't have any passion or libido beyond the mechanic "rhythm" that I couldn't care less about and actually find boring to watch, and some of them can't understand that the viewer doesn't want to hear them babble through the whole fucking scene like they have tourette's. If you haven't noticed any of this, you don't watch porn. Then again, I have a feeling facts (or grammar) don't matter that much to you.
I need to be "Mr.Science" to make a factual observation that anyone could make if their head wasn't up their ass?:) It's quite simple, Albert: If you don't like rough sex that involves a lot of choking and slapping, you're not gonna like a lot of white performers out there. By the same token, if you don't like mechanical, passionless scenes, or even worse, those where the stuntdick runs his mouth like he has brain damage, you won't like many black performers. The only people who deny this are politically correct sheep and those who think they must defend people of their own group regardless of the facts.
You keep repeating that to yourself and maybe one day you will actually believe it's the truth. In the meantime I'm gonna keep on buying BM/WF movies :-)
Facts don't need to be repeated to be believed. And you honestly think I care what you buy?:)...I have plenty of those movies just because I like the girls in them. I'm not emotionally attached to this issue like you are.
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RICHARD MANN LEX STEELE MIKE CHAPMAN PRINCE YAHSHUA
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Mike Chapman Kid Jamaica John Johnson Rome Major Spooky Joachim Kessef Moe Johnson Prince Yashua Franco Roccaforte Edited by - misspornUSA on 9/30/2017 9:09:14 PM
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Posted - May 23 2017 : 6:28PM
Kid Jamaica, Mandingo, Lexington Steele, Rico Strong, Richard Mann
There is a difference between rough and pretending to be rough. Many of the names listed pretend to be rough. I think Prince is authentic rough. I miss some of the older names listed on this thread over 10 years ago like Jean Claude Baptiste. He was def rough on those white girls with his hands always on their throat.
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