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kierkegaard
Loose Cannon

185 Posts
8/05
Posted - Dec 25 2005 : 12:30PM
Noted Walter. My apologies to Braad_Spitt, it was a piss-poor double entendre and I am sorry. I mis-read comments on this board often and should just not reply versus a poor attempt at flaming another member. I hope the apology is accepted.

Not to high-jack the thread, but Walter, I'll try to bump each of your '10 quotes on pornography threads.' I never thought I'd see David Bordwell's name here, or Russian Formalism, but I was waiting to find Catherine Breillat here and that has become one reason I come here more so then other boards.

On the same note, have you looked at some of Jan Mukarovský's essays, or Leonard B. Meyer, or (as I assume you are familiar with Arnheim) this piece?

For some reason, I'm sure you have and are saying "yea, so what?" Apologies if so, just trying to offer some recommendations of other works that have assisted me in looking at film (and the arts) from another perspective.

Anyway, apologies...sometimes I'm a bit too crude and need to look into this thing called tact ..."call it something I ate."

All the best,
Rosco.

Edit: I suck at hyperlinks

Edited by - kierkegaard on 12/25/2005 12:40:37 PM

de25ge
Member

yes I'm virilis
954 Posts
11/05
Posted - Dec 25 2005 : 4:36PM
Roxy read the Satanic bible(question about her last book) and was astonished that it had this "eye for an eye" attitude, like all old religions have.
So she obviously knew only the ideas of the new testament.
Walter Burns
Legendary Quoter

IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no.
7564 Posts
11/02
Posted - Dec 25 2005 : 7:36PM
Of these three, I am most familiar with Mukarovsky. I have used his concept of different kinds of (aesthetic) norms -- material, technical, practical -- to try to make an integrated historic-poetical analysis of a movie. After 600 pages, I came to the conclusion that I failed. That was a lot of fun.

I am also familiar with Arnheim, though mostly through his early work (think Film als Kunst ). His Gestalt-psychological approach to (visual) art has interested me less so. Instead, I was/am more attracted to the work of E.H. Gombrich.

Knowing next to nothing about music, I must confess I had never heard of Leonard B. Meyer. Louis B. Mayer, yes. Leonard B. Meyer, sorry.




TonyC said:
“Porn is on par with Alaskan crab fishing – pays better than most jobs that doesn't require any special skills, but comes with risks you don't have working as a shop girl - some of them will chance the course of your life forever. Over the long hall, there's a good chance a lot of shop girls end up further ahead.”

Walter Burns
Legendary Quoter

IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no.
7564 Posts
11/02
Posted - Dec 25 2005 : 7:40PM
Sure, but an important question remains, IMHO. How much continuity was there between I and II? In other words, is it important for a better understanding of II that the 'failure' of I is understood as well?

I must confess I don't know the answer to this question.




VincentVanGauge said:
“If men were really meant to piss while standing nature would have given them marksmanship.”

 
Lost Horizon
Deactivated User

675 Posts
6/05
Posted - Dec 26 2005 : 2:14PM
I don't think I really have an answer to these questions. It seems to me that the early and late work can be considered simply as two discrete philosophies - but doubtless there are specialists who have devoted their careers to plotting the continuities.

Incidentally, in reference to your exchange with kierkegaard above, I will mention here that I have recently been reading some of Oakeshott's writings on the "modes of experience" and his philosophy of aesthetics (eg Experience and Its Modes and there are some relevant essays included in Rationalism In Politics). I think it is more or less wrong - but it is wrong in interesting and stimulating ways, and that is really all I ask of philosophy. It might appeal to you two guys.

Braad_Spitt
Member

Netherlands
39 Posts
10/05
Posted - Dec 26 2005 : 2:49PM
no problem! We've all done that, at least, I have on many boards! :) Appology accepted!
Arclight
New Member

1 Posts
12/05
Posted - Dec 27 2005 : 9:01AM
If more porn stars spoke out like this, assuming they're capable in the first place, it would probably help the porn industry. I think slowly it would make anti-porn types grudgingly begin respecting the stars more, and consequently the industry more. Seriously.
kierkegaard
Loose Cannon

185 Posts
8/05
Posted - Dec 28 2005 : 1:45PM
Lost Horizon and Walter, thanks for the recommendations. I'll look more into them over my "break." Although it (e.g. "the break") has basically featured the SO and I sitting around watching all the seasons and specials of The Office (UK) (great stuff BTW, if you guys haven't seen these, oh man...it's that laughter of "we're missing the next joke cause we're laughing so hard" comedy), while shoveling down our throats those peanut butter cookies with the checker-board patterns across the middle (God I love those!) and poking each others respective growing guts.) (yea, that doesn't really sound right, but I'm going to leave it in none-the-less).

But I'll take a look at what you both have recommended. Thanks.

As if The Office stuff wasn't dated enough, if you guys haven't seen this piece already, check it out. It is a piece that/which ( ) I found humorous, but also a fairly decent and somewhat intelligent critique (although, again, it might be dated) on porn, etc..

Anyway, cheers mates.

Kierkegaard.

KUTProductions
Member

56 Posts
1/06
Posted - Jan 11 2006 : 11:26PM
People who go to university to study philosophy are generally idiots. They like the idea of being a student but they have no interests....they just want to go hang out with their friends who also chose philosophy because they are equally uninteresting....plus she proved that she didn't even understand what she had learned....
jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jan 12 2006 : 2:43AM
bi_girl
Member

157 Posts
11/09
Posted - Dec 20 2009 : 8:11PM
I'm hella late on this one but I just wanted to say I adore Roxy and I love her even more now after this interview. I also support the interviewer for his questions; it was one of the better interviews I've seen. I find it incredibly sexy when the women show that they are intellectual, sexual agents, rather than fulfilling this brainless role they're constantly required to play. Also, more real orgasms on set!!!
eduardo911
Senior Member

1299 Posts
8/03
Posted - Dec 23 2009 : 6:49PM
I'd love to see her in an animated discussion with Sasha Grey. Preferably while they're both getting fucked.
bi_girl
Member

157 Posts
11/09
Posted - Dec 23 2009 : 8:50PM
I like your thinking. Except add me as the one fucking them and we're good ;D
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