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Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 3:51PM
Do you get em? From which sites?
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Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 6:16PM
Yep, got a whole bunch in Sage, an RSS extension for Firefox:
BBC (7 different ones)
CNN
NYT
NOS (Dutch news)
NRC (Dutch newspaper)
RTV West (local news)
Slashdot
The Register
Wired (4x)
Webwereld
Rootkit.nl
KDE Dot News
KDE-Apps.org
Snopes (Urban Legends)
Utterpants
BBSpot
AVN
Fleshbot
and some non public ones like Gmail or member sites.


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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 1:55PM
Thanks, Jacco.
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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 4:21PM
As this isn't in polls, I guess you might be looking for technically different feeds to look at for inspiration or testing.
In which case, Loraine's blog has the most fanciful formatting of any RSS feed I've seen.
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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 4:45PM
I posted in Tech Talk only because it's the most likely place to reach people who actually use RSS feeds. I'm looking for everything from what's the best way to explain what an RSS feed is to reader suggestions to different styles of briefs. Really, every aspect. This is all new to me. I can see how this will change the face of the internet.
 
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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 5:20PM
There is some good info about RSS on Sage's wiki, with formatting info, feed info and more.

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Loraine
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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 8:59PM
Have I?
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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 9:20PM
I've got a bunch of RSS feeds going to my "My Yahoo!" page.
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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 11:24PM
I think it is just the default from the blogger software you use.

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Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 1:08AM
I love me the RSS.

I use FeedDemon to read and keep track of a 100 or so feeds.

I'll write more when I'm not falling asleep...

Drew Black
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Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 11:28AM
I'm working on some feeds. You can see what we have available at our RSS feeds page
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Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 12:02PM
Good stuff, Drew.
One suggestion: Always including the studio as part the headline, and perhaps bold-facing the reviewers name, might make it easier to get an overview of the New Reviews feed at a quick glance.

Are you considering making feeds for the forums too?

You have.
Most feeds I've come across include just a couple of lines of plain text in the actual feed to conserve bandwidth. Yours looks like it does on your front page.

As Jacco said, it's probably just your blog's default settings. Even if you could change it, IMHO you shouldn't. It looks nice.

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Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 12:20PM
I can easily include the studio. Bolding the reviewers name is a different issue though. I'm trying to refrain from HTML or CSS in the article brief. I've seen a number of feeds that use pretty HTML formatting but they don't all render well in various news aggregator programs. When I'm more familiar with this stuff I'll most likely include a box cover and more info in the feed but for now it's a start.
Yes, and some price search stuff too.
yes.
Drew Black
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Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 12:24PM
I just realized, the "always" part of your post might be significant. Are you seeing the studio name in parenthesis on some titles but not others? We do this in instances when these studios are too fucking stupid to come up with unique movie titles. It's our way of differentiating the same movie title from different sources. So from the script's perspective it doesn't know if there's a studio included in the movie title or not. It's just spitting out the title as stored in the database. I'll figure out a way to have more meaningful headlines that include the studio name without duplicating the studio in the title.
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Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 12:46PM
Yes, I knew about you sometimes including the studio as part of the title for disambiguation. That was why I said always.

Including the studio, even when it's already been included in the title, wouldn't be a problem for me, but I guess it might offend your own sense of aesthetics.
The info is doubled in the text anyway: MASAMUNE reviews 3rd Degree's Wetter the Better 2 (3rd Degree)...

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In addition to the complete feeds, would it be possible to offer per-user filtering for registered members in the forum feeds?

I was thinking along the lines of being able to set up a personal "read me 1st"-feed, including all posts since the last time my RSS-reader fetched the feed, containing particular words (or parts of words) or made by a handful (20?) of specific posters.

 
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Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 4:08PM
That's the plan. However the public feeds will be completed first. Then I need to look into the authentication mechanisms used by the more popular aggregators before I can start the user-specific/private feeds.
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Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 4:48PM
When I click 'discover feeds' in Sage it finds all the feeds (which is a long list), but onfortunately they all have the same title "Adult DVD Talk new adult movie reviews" not very helpfully in finding the ones I want.

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Drew Black
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Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 7:57PM
I'll update the feed channel names later tonight. I wasn't expecting that folks would want all of the feeds on the page.
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Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 8:54PM
I don't want all of them, but the discovery button in Sage is the handiest way to add feeds for me. I actually don't know how other feed readers do it, drag and drop?

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Drew Black
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Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 11:58PM
I installed Sage, very cool plugin.

The feeds have more meaningful titles now.

MASAMUNE
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Posted - Oct 28 2005 : 1:16AM
can someone explain to me what this "feeds" stuff is simply (summarize) to a layman like me?

thanks

Drew Black
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Posted - Oct 28 2005 : 1:57AM
from webreference.com

Really Simple Syndication (RSS) is a lightweight XML format designed for sharing headlines and other Web content. Think of it as a distributable "What's New" for your site. Originated by UserLand in 1997 and subsequently used by Netscape to fill channels for Netcenter, RSS has evolved into a popular means of sharing content between sites (including the BBC, CNET, CNN, Disney, Forbes, Motley Fool, Wired, Red Herring, Salon, Slashdot, ZDNet, and more). RSS solves myriad problems webmasters commonly face, such as increasing traffic, and gathering and distributing news. RSS can also be the basis for additional content distribution services.

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Posted - Oct 28 2005 : 6:01PM
That's 2026 feeds on one page and Sage didn't choke on it! But it took a few minutes to list them all...

Nice job, Drew!

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Drew Black
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Posted - Oct 28 2005 : 6:16PM
There's more coming. I'm going to do the forum feeds next. It will be the 100 most recent threads for each forum.
 
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Posted - Oct 28 2005 : 11:06PM
You'e aiming to become the site with the most feeds on the Internet, Drew?

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Loraine
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Posted - Oct 30 2005 : 5:09AM
You have.
Most feeds I've come across include just a couple of lines of plain text in the actual feed to conserve bandwidth. Yours looks like it does on your front page.

As Jacco said, it's probably just your blog's default settings. Even if you could change it, IMHO you shouldn't. It looks nice.

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Thanks K, I've never been complimented on my RSS feed before.
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No I don't use RSS yet, I'll look into it.
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* Original post deleted because I am an idiot and just figured out how to use my Sage properly.

Edited by - threesomebody on 10/30/2005 8:47:58 AM

Drew Black
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Posted - Oct 31 2005 : 1:24AM
The forum feeds are up on the feeds page now.

A topic will appear in the forum feed if there's been a post made to it within the previous 24 hour period.

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Posted - Oct 31 2005 : 6:37AM
Those forum feeds are great. It's particularly useful to be able to get a glimpse of some of the actual thread rather than just the title. I think, for me, the feeds may well overtake the Active Topics page as my primary means of checking the ADT forums. Thanks a lot, Drew.

Slight problem: when I go to the feeds page and click 'Discover Feeds' (I'm using Sage btw), it fails to find a feed for the Star Crossed forum. Anyone else getting this?

Drew Black
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there's a bug in the script that's generating it. I'll look into it.
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Anyone using the feed aggregator services at Google or My Yahoo ? I've been intinkering with each service and while they're still in Beta I prefer their functionality to a standalone reader like RSS Reader or Sage/FireFox.
Drew Black
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Posted - Nov 2 2005 : 10:54AM
Anyone using these? I'd like to know if there's a way that I can make them more useful.
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Posted - Nov 2 2005 : 12:07PM
What is it you find them better at, Drew?

I just tried them both and thought they were rather limited compared to Akregator.
But as Akregator is the only RSS reader I've used for more than a few minutes, I might be missing something.

 
Drew Black
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Posted - Nov 2 2005 : 3:42PM
I've never used that program. Maybe I should check it out.

I've tried Awasu, and RSSReader. RSSReader sucks, it's very buggy. Awasu is so-so. I simply like the interface of the Google and Yahoo versions much better. They seem to do a better job of actually using the various XML data fields in the RSS feed. Awasu and RSS reader don't properly interpret all of the fields. (pubDate is an example, they both simply display the date that they accessed the feed instead of the actual date of the feed publication AND the item's pubDate.)

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Posted - Nov 2 2005 : 5:00PM
Well, Akregator is a Linux/BSD program and, IIRC, you're not a Unix sort of guy...

But I like it.

I can arrange the feeds in a tree structure with folders in folders.
When I click on a folder, all the articles of the feeds in that folder and any of it's sub-folders are listed together, making it possible to browse many related feeds quickly.

It's various display modes are nice too.
It can list the articles like most news readers and mail programs do, with a folder tree, a header list, and a preview window.
Or in a continuous view, with the articles split by a header like in the screenshot I posted of Loraine's blog above.

It's also stable. It's never crashed on me yet. (Touch wood)

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I like the Yahoo feeds beter than Sage.

I can't quite get the hang of Sage yet.

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interesting reaction to a program that doesn't crash.
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Posted - Nov 4 2005 : 10:30AM
I can't tell the difference between the Yahoo RSS feeds and the regular headings on my Yahoo homepage. They seem to work the same. Am I missing some functionality?

I am currently using Sage, and so far I like it.

Drew Black
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Posted - Nov 4 2005 : 12:26PM
Nope. They work the same. I like that interface better than Sage. Just personal preference.



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