I have had this happen to me recently and I was wondering if it goes on with anyone else, especially the reviewers for ADT.
Obviously there are tons and tons of rumors in this business, and some are very true. After you hear so many rumors and/or truths about a star you really like, does that change your opinion of her when watching a scene?
Sometimes I will go back in the “collection” and pull out a DVD that I really really liked before, but then you hear some not so good things about the star of the film and it seems kind of different to see them and think “wow who would have guessed …” or something to that effect.
Yes being somewhat close to people in the biz I've heard things which have changed my opinon when watching a scene. I take the good with the bad in this regard.
When i was writing this thread i was actually thinking of Bono-one since i read most of your reviews and i know you know a lot of people in the biz as well. So thanks for answering.
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Posted - Jul 2 2006 : 9:14PM
Ahh, but of course, and some of it has even been published in the wide variety of porn papparazzi that is out there.
That said, it only made me think "Whoa! She is the hell kitten that her character implies...meeeoowww!!"
I travel a lot, so I go to the Dance Clubs, and meet a lot of the stars when they're out featuring. So I can get "an impression" about many of the performers; especially those I've met several times. The thing that usually gets me down is when I find out a girl, who's a fav of mine, is strung out on drugs or booze--and many, many of them are. I've battled booze, so I know how tough it can be. Therefore, It does make it tough for me to enjoy her scenes, afterwards, knowing that she's struggling with an addiction.
Even after hearing the whole Lain Oi saga with Gen Padova, it didn't really affect my enjoyment of her scenes, although it helped explain her a little bit. Not sure if that had any significant effect.
i get that sometimes when i am interviewing someone. But mostly its when you interview a girl and you can tell she is dead on the inside or has no clue of what is going on with her own life.
What happen in the performers private life is none of my concern, as long as she is good in movies its fine with me, of course if i would met one of them(or a hollywood actress or such for exemple) and she would be a bitch to me, then it could affect my judgement, but the things i heard, true or not, not my probleme.
Gen isn't one to shy away from a fight once the battle is joined, nor is she afraid to call a spade a spade... I think you're seeing pretty much a select set of her posts.Lain caused trouble for the others she stayed with after Gen kicked her out; indeed, had Gen spilled the beans at the time it would have saved others a lot of grief and money. There was at least one thread covering post-Gen Lain “exploits” here on ADT...
In the other “wars” I can think of – Allie Sin, Cytherea, Kid Vegas – Gen has been proven right in the end.
There are times when knowing too much can hurt the fantasy. Most of us know nothing of the performers other than what we see on-screen so we create fantasy personae in our minds from what we see in videos, an old girlfriend, a hot babe at the office etc. Even if there's nothing wrong per se with the performer's reality it isn't the fantasy we constructed, and to that extent it pops the fantasy bubble. Sometimes that proves enough that it's hard to get back “into” the girl, hard to get back into a fantasy as strokable as what you had...
Yeah, that's the kind of stuff i was talking about in the intial post. whatever happend with Padova and Oi is between them. The only thing i will add is i know Gen and she is brutally honest no matter what., which you have to respect in this busniess. she's been nothing but sweet and nice to me.
the very fact u can think of multiple internet flame wars that Gen has gotten into says something about her online behavior
it all seems very petty to me, that's all. "bitch" this and "loser" that. there are definitely more mature ways to deal with problems than taking it to the internet
well u cat believe what people say...im not on drugs and i shudnt be on any right now..i drink and still feel sober..whats the rumor about me? that i fuck a lot?? yup thats right!
Lain Oi and I were never friends. More so acquaintences. The term, "friend" is used so lightly, not just in this industry but in life.
Teaching a girl like Lain when she should have already known that showing up to your promised times is vital. Advising her to keep to her true friends and not get involved with the wrong people. Remain professional in every which way and to not over work herself are also important. And to use her money wisely. I went out of my way to help because she asked me to not because I felt obligated whatsoever.
We're talking about a girl who came from Arizona under the wings of a man who calls himself an agent, who is more so a street pimp, believing that escorting will get her in porn. Lain came a long way from where she started, I was happy for her then but her lies of drug abuse is what made me lose all respect. I made it clean and clear to her what I do not want in the house. If she had a habit, she should have kept it off of my property. Simple as that. But she never gave me the impression she was under the influence until her boyfriend moved out here from Arizona... weeks before I threw them out. While she never knew what I had discovered when she lived in MY home, she called me upset shortly after she had moved out and I clearly said, "Look Lain, there is no reason to be upset. You know, that I do not like illegal drugs in my home. I am not willing to be held responsible for someone elses dirty habit. You can deny all that you want and I will not discuss any further and you know exactlyyyyy what I'm talking about. I hope you can find help and I wish you good luck."
I will admit to entering this industry very naive. Very little social skills that may make me come off as unfriendly even so catty. I've improved a lot since but even so have a lot to work on. Although I even had a bigger heart in the past compared to the present towards other girls in the industry, assuming every lady was rabid about sex like I was. You know, work as a team and be nice to your co-workers and collaborate? Not create enemies. Hmm... makes sense I thought especially when you share work in the same business.
Although since realizing that being naive and trusting those that I didn't know by giving them the benefit of the doubt and not allowing others in the past who have burned me effect my endeavors with future people, hasn't done me any good. And you know what? I've kept to my word. I haven't yet made a huge effort to helping another person in this industry like I did with Lain Oi. If anything, girls know that if they need advice or anything less than a place to stay, I'm still there to help in anyway that I can. Pardon for having a heart.
Now... in regards to me being catty. Yes, often times I may be catty. Although when I maintain a civil dispute or a civil discussion it's often ignored and nothing merely gets resolved. Or, people just don't get the point even so listen for that matter. This bit of "catty" writing in this thread was taken from I believe a blog. Where my blogs are more of a casual writing and yes I have every right to use the word "bitch" and "loser" since they are adjectives mentioned from my own opinion. Where we all have a right to an opinion. I'm not saying that you... 'rapper' are wrong. I respect your opinion and how you view me. Although I am a bit saddened that you only focus on my casual writings/rants than my more postings that happen to be anything but immature and petty.
But it makes sense... 'we' as in everyone tend to focus more on the negative things. Anything negative and derogatory tend to catch the eye more. Just like great entertainment that always seems to involve weapons, sex and any bit of violence both physical and verbal. :)
If every female in this industry was just as blunt and straight forward as I am about degenerates they happen to stumble upon with ill luck, I'm sure I wouldn't be the most catty around here. ;)
Like I've told many (present and past regulars of ADT and other message boards) you're better off not socializing with the women of porn in general. Just keep your idea of what the girl may be in mind from watching her pornos... And/or perhaps an acquaintence relationship instead of pursuing a friendship of long chit-chats and hang outs because you are more likely than anything else to get burned, used and abused in any which way. Unless you have nothing to lose then go for it. I'm sure this goes with any industry... life in general but I've learned this lesson in this business. You don't always get what you give. But doesn't always mean to give up. An arms distance is always best.
P.S. I dont start drama of any sort. People just pick the wrong person to take advantage of. People pick the wrong person to throw death threats. I'm the last person to sit and take the abuse. I have self respect and take action where its due in the utmost responsible and legal, mature way.
No, thank you Gen. Very reasonable and pellucid response. You're right in saying that people focus on the negative, although it's murkier than that. For a lot of fans, they enjoy the theatricality of porn bleeding into the personal lives to the stars, thereby romancing a kind of tawdry, hedonic existence which a lot of porn stars wouldn't want to wallow in. Therefore, 'catty' comments, in-fights, trash-talking, are all part of the package, similar to the WWF or the WCW. So when they see someone voicing genuine frustration, they expect it's all part of the show. I read your take on the whole Allie Sin saga half-expecting that it was Luke-Ford-esque balderdash, but clearly I was way-off. However, there is that mindset out there, perpetuated by the likes of Ford and to an extent Chico Wang.
You're also on the mark when you say it's probably better NOT to know about a star you like than to know, but it's only natural to pursue something you like. I can't imagine ever being a porn star's friend, and it's unlikely I'll ever meet one, but given the quasi-underground nature of porn, I'd hope I could meet the stars. What good is an underground culture if you can't interact? For me also, it's hard to care about a girl's sexual performances without having something else to work with. Locomotive genitals need greater context. That's why a good behind-the-scenes interview is gold to me, or reading threads at ADT. Think I'd ever have heard of Sasha Knox if I hadn't seen shrines to her and her spending the time to walk amongst her fans, so to speak? No, but now I own a pile of her movies.
And as a direct result of your last post, I shall make the effort to hunt down some Gen Padova movies, because you seem to be a reasonable, if fiery personality, and that puts some intangibles in my mind for when I watch your scenes.
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Posted - Jul 6 2006 : 3:35AM
In this I recognise something of Ultrasiet2: maybe mirrored souls are conflicting souls ?
For me, reading ADT (and other forums) is getting informed. About directors, movies, talent, fellow posters, ... . When I'm informed, I can judge a review on the writer, preview a movies through directors eyes, ... . Even so, I can read a post with some background info on the writer, becourse I've build a general feeling/understanding (rightly or wrongly) out of former posts. Gen is IMO a clear, fierce, direct and consistent writer. Not my style, but that's not to say I don't respect her. For me, her writing does not interfere with the image I've of her when watching her in a movie. When she would alter her physique, then it probably would. So in the end, I keep liking Gen's movies. It's a blessing people can be so different; it would be boring otherwise.
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Posted - Jul 6 2006 : 4:28AM
Jasmine, come to porn star karaoke at Sardos on Tuesday when you're in town!
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Posted - Jul 6 2006 : 4:35AM
Gen is not catty, she's just very forthright, which you don't see alot of from most women, because we're supposed just look pretty and keep our mouths shut.
Ultrasiet, Great word, "pellucid", seriously. I never envisioned I would see it on ADT, in any form. I do some part-time swimming pool work, and I told a doctor, who was always throwing around fifty cent words t me being the hired-help, that his pool was very "pellucid". I could tell he had no idea what I meant. I bet that sombitch set the dictioary pages on fire trying to look it up when I left his house that day. Great, great word man. Park And great post Gen!
I think she's honest, which I find refreshing and rare. She also stands behind her beliefs, another plus in my book.
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Posted - Jul 9 2006 : 11:56PM
Did anyone single you out, "king"?
Call it what you want, but if someone denounced you publicly, would you bite your lip & walk away...or punch him out and risk liability? What is the reality behind that 'drama'?
In la-la-land (or anywhere for that matter), people talk a good game...but the truth is...reality hurts. 'Internet drama' is one way of dealing with the problem when one can't physically confront the problem, no different than phone contact of a similar sitation. Trust me, I know...and no one's ever taken me up on meeting in person, either.
Point being, if something bothers you, speak up about it ~ drama or not. Those who consistently hide their feelings only create a poison within themselves. People go back & forth over senseless bullshit all the time until someone tires out, or has the (emotional or physical) shit kicked out of them. That's the way I always looked at "drama", whether internet or not.
Gen (and alot of other girls in this industry) sets the table. It's your job to start dinner conversation. Try doing it without creating drama, since you know the reality of such instances.
She got the name Lain after some anime character. She only watched cartoons, never real people shows of any sort, rarely movies. It really had me thinkin' :)
And her last name, well, she surely thought she was punk, "oi to the world." Whatever floated her boat. Outside of the biz, she refused to ever be called by her real name and instead wanted to go by Indizo. A combination of Indigo and Zoe. Interesting to say the least.
Yikes... glad you clarified the names "rapper". There is no beef between me and Allie Sin. Only Allie Ray is an issue. I did nothing but call Mr. Luger regarding future work (since we have worked together in the past) and say hello, check on his well-being because I well respected the man compared to many other directors in the biz. Nothing more... but Allie RAY went out of line out of nowhere. Anyways, I had no intention in getting in the middle of anything buuuuuttt it is, what it is.
But, again, thanks for clarifying the names. :)
And thanks for coming to my defence. I'm a walking controversy and I do apologize LOL. Just call be Brat from now on. *wink*
I don't follow a whole lot of all that stuff. The only thing I knew about Gen Padova before reading this thread is that when she gets fucked real good, she cums hard and her legs quiver. I like that.
Oh, and I think she likes big dicks, but I could be wrong.
speaking of Gen Padova...I once saw a DVD she had a scene in and there was a behind-the-scenes scene where at the house the shoot took place somone owned a pit bull. Theres some footage of the dog..then the camera cuts to a kitten/cat literally ripped in half lying on the lawn. The fucker behind the camera makes jokes about it 'oops I think somone broke my cat' and the inference is the pit bull killed the cat and that somehow this is A. hilarious funny and B. something we all wanted see in a porn flick. The whole scene sickened me and pissed me off so much that I vowed to never watch another movie with anyone involved in that one...the company, the director, or the stars, and that included Gen. I was seiously tempted to file some kind of police complaint. So that's something that certainly changed my opinion.
I was a bit disgusted after finding out that there was a dead cat on the lawn and the fact that it was filmed. I have been raised with animals and have a passion for them. I do not agree with any malicious acts against cats or any animals or any deceased animal to be taken as a joke. Although it's a shame that you would put blame to just anyone for the sake of putting blame on someone. If it meant that much to you, perhaps you should have gone ahead with a police complaint. Who knows if it would ever do anything but being TEMPTED doesn't count much for anything.
Posted - Jul 2 2006 : 8:37PM
